Season Ticket Holders Changes 2025-26

montyaloofah said:
The timing of Rick's comments on the haves and have nots in college bball after the seton hall game could not be more timely... Probably a nudge to the fan base that money talks.
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i dont think anything is "un-timed" with Rick lol.... Gotta think he was informed this letter was in the pipeline to STH's...

"Hey Rick - after we crush Hall, remind our base what a program looks like without donors" - EdK
 
redfanOO00ddkk said:
Has anyone ever been told how many points they have? How do we know that they are correct? We should receive a statement every year with our points and where on that point list we stand.
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My observation to the athletic department was essentially that (1) I understand the modern landscape (whether I like it or not is irrelevant); (2) you can't run a competitive college sports program without significant donor support; and (3) they won't hear a complaint from me about what happens to my seating as long as the process is fair.

I completely agree that some degree of transparency would help with that last point. You can't have a situation where someone who has an "in" with someone gets preferential treatment in contravention of the published metrics (ticket duration, booster duration, contribution amounts).

If somebody gives the school $1 million and that gets them priority over someone who has had tickets for 30 years at $3,000 a year and also donated $3,000 a year and thus their total contribution over the years is $180,000, so be it. If you want to give double credit for duration and say the 30-year person is worth $360,000, or even triple credit and say it's worth $540,000, that's still a fraction of the nouveau riche donor. So the reality is you get what you pay for in this world.

But you can't be giving a 5 year holder/donor priority over a 10 year donor/holder unless (say) the 5 year person has donated significantly more than the 10 year one, in my opinion. Significant being relative but that's the "point" here - that some degree of transparency in the dollar value of longevity would be useful.

However, as long as the metrics are fair and the process is guided by the metrics, it is simply college athletic reality today. Seems like a bunch of the conversation surrounding this confuses a right with a privilege. Believe me, I hate the landscape as much as anyone. But hating it doesn't make it any less real. Whether I or anyone else wants to continue to be a participant is an individual choice.
 
lawmanfan said:
My observation to the athletic department was essentially that (1) I understand the modern landscape (whether I like it or not is irrelevant); (2) you can't run a competitive college sports program without significant donor support; and (3) they won't hear a complaint from me about what happens to my seating as long as the process is fair.

I completely agree that some degree of transparency would help with that last point. You can't have a situation where someone who has an "in" with someone gets preferential treatment in contravention of the published metrics (ticket duration, booster duration, contribution amounts).

If somebody gives the school $1 million and that gets them priority over someone who has had tickets for 30 years at $3,000 a year and also donated $3,000 a year and thus their total contribution over the years is $180,000, so be it. If you want to give double credit for duration and say the 30-year person is worth $360,000, or even triple credit and say it's worth $540,000, that's still a fraction of the nouveau riche donor. So the reality is you get what you pay for in this world.

But you can't be giving a 5 year holder/donor priority over a 10 year donor/holder unless (say) the 5 year person has donated significantly more than the 10 year one, in my opinion. Significant being relative but that's the "point" here - that some degree of transparency in the dollar value of longevity would be useful.

However, as long as the metrics are fair and the process is guided by the metrics, it is simply college athletic reality today. Seems like a bunch of the conversation surrounding this confuses a right with a privilege. Believe me, I hate the landscape as much as anyone. But hating it doesn't make it any less real. Whether I or anyone else wants to continue to be a participant is an individual choice.
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According to the website each year with season tickets is equivalent to $100 donated.
 
Hardy said:
According to the website each year with season tickets is equivalent to $100 donated.
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$100 a season, thats its? 48 years doesnt get you too far. Did donate in the past but for various reasons had to cut back recently.
 
I think donations only count toward points if made during the previous fiscal year. Otherwise they reset (at least that’s how it’s been in the past). Of course none of that info is in the email so idk
 
My father was a season ticket holder starting in the early 70's. Section 3 Row JJ seats 9-10 had those tickets all the way through until probably 2007- 2008. The garden seats were like section 104 or something sweet. My father passed away in 2005 and I tried to hold on for as long as I could but being moved from those seats and then losing the garden seats made it very hard to continue to keep the season tickets. Stayed through many many lean years. I love St Johns Basketball my two favorite teams are St Johns and the Mets. My son is now 11 and he is enjoying this program and he says he Loves St Johns. Schedules change, life changes and the ability to make it to every game like I once did is not an option. Having the secondary market gives us the chance to catch a couple of games each year. College athletics is a giant monster that needs to be fed. I get it and hate it but I wont stop rooting, just cant support financially like we did for 30+ years.

This is going to be some ride, something we all deserved as fans. Hopefully the NIL program allows us to be monsters in College Basketball.
 
djramps said:
My father was a season ticket holder starting in the early 70's. Section 3 Row JJ seats 9-10 had those tickets all the way through until probably 2007- 2008. The garden seats were like section 104 or something sweet. My father passed away in 2005 and I tried to hold on for as long as I could but being moved from those seats and then losing the garden seats made it very hard to continue to keep the season tickets. Stayed through many many lean years. I love St Johns Basketball my two favorite teams are St Johns and the Mets. My son is now 11 and he is enjoying this program and he says he Loves St Johns. Schedules change, life changes and the ability to make it to every game like I once did is not an option. Having the secondary market gives us the chance to catch a couple of games each year. College athletics is a giant monster that needs to be fed. I get it and hate it but I wont stop rooting, just cant support financially like we did for 30+ years.

This is going to be some ride, something we all deserved as fans. Hopefully the NIL program allows us to be monsters in College Basketball.
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Nice Dave.
Your father was great guy
 
Anyone have an idea how many total full schedule season ticket holders we have?
 
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