Rysheed Jordan

[jr49]

Will be interesting to see if he starts against Fordham. Whether he deserves it or not, sitting on the bench while a clearly inferior Jamal Branch starts ahead of him must be a humiliation for a kid like Jordan.

A second year player who has yet to become a good college player is getting 30 minutes a game. In Kansas he would be told to be quite and have a seat. Sheed should not be humiliated because Branch, a senior, gets a few minutes at the start of a game. I would hope he's rooting for him to do well.

Jordan has "yet to become a good college player"??? Surely, you jest.
Don't get me wrong, he's immature, not very likeable and needs a kick in the butt. But he's a very real talent and easily the second best player on our team.

Second best a maybe on next years team. D been playing on another level, but it always wasn't that way. CO #2. Dom and Phil round it out, and then we get to Jordan. Your opinion of Jordan could be right on. So far I see a kid who can make some nice moves. NBA no way. He really needs 4 years of college ball, and with that he must pay attention and play hard.

 

[fan5577]

Jordan is going nowhere....I highly doubt he goes to the NBA after this season..He wouldn't be a first round pick, and risky second round pick...He needs to stay in school and get an education..Maybe next year will be his year..He needs to mature, and take care of the rock

I agree with what you are saying, however, the wild card is does he want to do the classwork? Even if he does not get drafted he could get paid to play basketball somewhere.

 

[GardenCity62]

This post is right on. Top forwards and guards have open access to the rim in HS, AAU and JUCO ball but that changes in top college and more so in the NBA. The great pro guards after penetrating pull up and take 14 to 16 ft jump shots ala Parker and Paul.
At SJU a few years ago Nurideen Lindsey had great ball handling skills with either hand,had scored tons of points prior to SJU by taking it to the rim and did very well in the games at SJU vs mid majors. Then he played against Ky with their shot blocking front line and I don't think he was ever the same.

 

[MainMan]

Can't blame him for wanting to transfer after reading the last 50+ comments. Vaya con dios Black Jesus!

 

[Class of 72]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

 

[beast of the east]

Uh, if he leaves it hurts us and has potential to end our season with a Branch injury. It's a huge deal, period. This is PG, arguably the most important position. You're downplaying this. Lavin and the team need to talk him out of it if true.

He's had some spectacular passes but he hasn't played much true PG. I personally think this is nothing. Most of us thought that he was gone after this season regardless. So enjoy the season and hopefully Jordan continues to develop to where he is actually an NBA caliber player.

Fair point but he's always a threat to score so I think he brings a lot to the team. He just needs to not force as much. Regardless, I much rather have Sheed or Branch at PG than PG4 again.

We are dealing with last year's runner up BE ROTY. He'll bounce back, and even if he doesn't I still want him on the team.

I agree with that. I want him on the team, succeeding and getting minutes. I have a hard time buying into some of the accusations against him but if true he is seriously immature and prima donas rarely are a net gain for a team.

Of course you are right about pulling for him. I have a hard time with a website like redmen.com - all sports fans in general. We are so hyper-reactive to every little event. If we lose to Fordham, or any other non-formidable team all the now giddy naysayers will fall back off the fanwagon. Rysheed Jordan is a supremely talented KID who apparently acts at time like a KID. When he does, he will get sent to his room by Lavin, and not coddled. Like many college athletes, he may have a false sense that he's somehow achieved something in D1 and has a gilded path to the NBA. Lavin's job is to keep him in line and get the most out of him as a player and person. I'm hopeful if not completely confident that this will happen. For us to be a good March dancer, we need Jordan at this best.

 

[paultzman]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

Agree Jordan is not going anywhere now, but will probably be out the door the minute season ends. JaKarr, btw, finished the semester to SJU's advantage.

Jordan's teammates obviously have dedicated themselves to team play this year. Hop on board Rysheed! Buying in will help jump start your professional aspirations. Becoming a problem child won't.

 

[Andrew]

Thi is ridiculous. Jordan is playing relatively well this year. His only chance at the NBA is to stay at St. John's and play even better. If he "transfers" now it will be to play in Europe.

 

[paultzman]

Thi is ridiculous. Jordan is playing relatively well this year. His only chance at the NBA is to stay at St. John's and play even better. If he "transfers" now it will be to play in Europe.

Not transferring now. The original tweet was utter nonsense.

 

[fuchsia]

I always suspect there is at least one other window in to this sort of situation. Rysheed's life has included some very difficult stuff the past two years (the murder of an aunt, his mom's health issues) and that is hard stuff to face. Staying grounded in the here and now, including feedback from coaches, is a lot different than what you get from folks hanging on to the fantasy of what could be for you, the NBA, the money, and all that goes with it. To the extent that the fantasy includes making things easier for your mom it becomes even more seductive as a place to run to. The problem is that the folks feeding Rysheed the fantasy are not in a position to give him accurate feedback on how to get from where he is to where he dreams of being. I hope his team mates and the people in his life that are not hanging on to the fantasy help him make the best decisions for him and his family.

 

[room112]

Also another thing to note, if he were to transfer mid season, he will have essentially burned a full year of eligibility, and only be able to play 3 years total (2 full years plus 2 half seasons). Same thing that Branch decided to do. Seems pretty evident he is set to play for money, and transferring does not help that at all.

 

[room112]

I always suspect there is at least one other window in to this sort of situation. Rysheed's life has included some very difficult stuff the past two years (the murder of an aunt, his mom's health issues) and that is hard stuff to face. Staying grounded in the here and now, including feedback from coaches, is a lot different than what you get from folks hanging on to the fantasy of what could be for you, the NBA, the money, and all that goes with it. To the extent that the fantasy includes making things easier for your mom it becomes even more seductive as a place to run to. The problem is that the folks feeding Rysheed the fantasy are not in a position to give him accurate feedback on how to get from where he is to where he dreams of being. I hope his team mates and the people in his life that are not hanging on to the fantasy help him make the best decisions for him and his family.

This reminded me of the time during Kyle Cuffe's senior year, his uncle told me he was going to be a 2nd round NBA Draft pick

 

[beast of the east]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

Agree Jordan is not going anywhere now, but will probably be out the door the minute season ends. JaKarr, btw, finished the semester to SJU's advantage.

Jordan's teammates obviously have dedicated themselves to team play this year. Hop on board Rysheed! Buying in will help jump start your professional aspirations. Becoming a problem child won't.

The big difference between Jakarr and Rysheed is about 5 inches. Guards that can play and own refined games - REALLY play - are plentiful. Jordan is so far from being a legitimate NBA prospect right now that we are more delusional than even Jordan to think that there is a professional future for him with his current state of game. Consider where Pearl Washington was as a Syracuse sophomore. Jordan isn't 1/20th the college player Washington was, and even Washington couldn't manage to enjoy a long NBA career. IF he's leaving, he'd better get it in gear soon.

 

[ipd200]

If he stops committing turnovers he would probably play close to 40 minutes a game.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

Agree Jordan is not going anywhere now, but will probably be out the door the minute season ends. JaKarr, btw, finished the semester to SJU's advantage.

Jordan's teammates obviously have dedicated themselves to team play this year. Hop on board Rysheed! Buying in will help jump start your professional aspirations. Becoming a problem child won't.

The big difference between Jakarr and Rysheed is about 5 inches. Guards that can play and own refined games - REALLY play - are plentiful. Jordan is so far from being a legitimate NBA prospect right now that we are more delusional than even Jordan to think that there is a professional future for him with his current state of game. Consider where Pearl Washington was as a Syracuse sophomore. Jordan isn't 1/20th the college player Washington was, and even Washington couldn't manage to enjoy a long NBA career. IF he's leaving, he'd better get it in gear soon.

Not disagreeing with your post but who do you think has the better NBA body?

 

[newsman13]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

This is right on! I heard Keady's final interview last year and he implied the inmates ran the asylum...and that wouldn't happen again. I hate the drama, but Jordan has to go along or get along.

 

[rcatalano]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

This is right on! I heard Keady's final interview last year and he implied the inmates ran the asylum...and that wouldn't happen again. I hate the drama, but Jordan has to go along or get along.

This kid has had baggage since the day he got here, frankly to date he has not had a game that makes me think that we need to put up with his attitude both on and off the court! If you can't protect the ball you can't expect to get more minutes, let alone start! If he does not like it, entering the NBA a draft after this year is certainly an option, not a good one at that! As far as trying to compare him to Pearl Washington, don't make me throw up!

 

[beast of the east]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

Agree Jordan is not going anywhere now, but will probably be out the door the minute season ends. JaKarr, btw, finished the semester to SJU's advantage.

Jordan's teammates obviously have dedicated themselves to team play this year. Hop on board Rysheed! Buying in will help jump start your professional aspirations. Becoming a problem child won't.

The big difference between Jakarr and Rysheed is about 5 inches. Guards that can play and own refined games - REALLY play - are plentiful. Jordan is so far from being a legitimate NBA prospect right now that we are more delusional than even Jordan to think that there is a professional future for him with his current state of game. Consider where Pearl Washington was as a Syracuse sophomore. Jordan isn't 1/20th the college player Washington was, and even Washington couldn't manage to enjoy a long NBA career. IF he's leaving, he'd better get it in gear soon.

Not disagreeing with your post but who do you think has the better NBA body?

I (and all of us) love Jordan's sky high potential, but he's got to turn talent into production. On your point, he's not only 6'4" but is a long 6'4" and has little trouble getting his shot off around the hoop. Then again, Justin Burrell had an NBA body also. I hope Jordan puts it together, and when he leaves SJU it's for the NBA, not d-league or Europe.

 

[Section9]

I have not addressed the transfer issue because it is ludicrous. Does anyone here truly think this "student-athlete" wants to transfer to any college to take classes and not play after he himself announced he was leaving after this year? Lavin is fighting for his job and even a knucklehead like him will not let Jordan pull a Sampson on him this year. The kid is sitting because he has been reckless in the offensive sets. Transfer? LMFOA! He likely is barely staying eligible and will not be seen in classes after March. Only coaches like John Calipari and coach K can afford players with Rysheed's mentality since they reload with talent every single year. Coach Lavin shot his load in his first year and has been shooting himself in the foot ever since recruiting wise. Let's just enjoy this year and hope for the best because Lavin is going to either shock us in March with late signings or we start over again. Had he pulled a recruiting coup this October he would have had a contract extension. No coach at this salary level gets renewed without recruits so the mystery will be over by the second week of April.

Agree Jordan is not going anywhere now, but will probably be out the door the minute season ends. JaKarr, btw, finished the semester to SJU's advantage.

Jordan's teammates obviously have dedicated themselves to team play this year. Hop on board Rysheed! Buying in will help jump start your professional aspirations. Becoming a problem child won't.

The big difference between Jakarr and Rysheed is about 5 inches. Guards that can play and own refined games - REALLY play - are plentiful. Jordan is so far from being a legitimate NBA prospect right now that we are more delusional than even Jordan to think that there is a professional future for him with his current state of game. Consider where Pearl Washington was as a Syracuse sophomore. Jordan isn't 1/20th the college player Washington was, and even Washington couldn't manage to enjoy a long NBA career. IF he's leaving, he'd better get it in gear soon.

Not disagreeing with your post but who do you think has the better NBA body?

I (and all of us) love Jordan's sky high potential, but he's got to turn talent into production. On your point, he's not only 6'4" but is a long 6'4" and has little trouble getting his shot off around the hoop. Then again, Justin Burrell had an NBA body also. I hope Jordan puts it together, and when he leaves SJU it's for the NBA, not d-league or Europe.

Jordan has been stuffed several times or thrown up wild shots or turned it over when he's driven to the hoop and been surounded by bigger defenders. He needs to recognize when he's at a disadvantage and either pass or not put himself in so deep that he has no hope of scdoring.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

The Twitter account of the perpetrator is now private which is probably good. The team doing great and we don't need someone living in the Land of Basketball Make Believe tweeting things that will bring negativity to the program.

I'm looking forward to kicking Fordham around MSG tomorrow and that's it.