RIP Coach Carnesecca

Not sure if this is the best thread to post this, but seemed the most relevant:



I used to enjoy collecting sports cards (including relic/jersey/auto cards), but the prices of these are pretty wild. If they were part of a Topps collection you could probably find most on eBay for a small fraction of what they're asking for here, and I never heard of the brand cllct. Does anyone know if some of the money goes towards NIL, and how much goes to the school? Is the purpose of these mainly to donate to St. John's?

I'm interested if it is primarily the school benefiting, but if it's mostly cllct profiting then I wouldn't be interested. Would rather just send a regular donation.
 
ADORAZ said:
Not sure if this is the best thread to post this, but seemed the most relevant:



I used to enjoy collecting sports cards (including relic/jersey/auto cards), but the prices of these are pretty wild. If they were part of a Topps collection you could probably find most on eBay for a small fraction of what they're asking for here, and I never heard of the brand cllct. Does anyone know if some of the money goes towards NIL, and how much goes to the school? Is the purpose of these mainly to donate to St. John's?

I'm interested if it is primarily the school benefiting, but if it's mostly cllct profiting then I wouldn't be interested. Would rather just send a regular donation.
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I haven't read all up on this. And Cllct is run by Darren Rovell who is one step below used car salesman. But this doesnt smell right to me. Is this going to a scholarship fund or something. Otherwise we're just profiting off a legendary man/coach who just passed away. Someone please keep me honest if I missed the hook.
 
Moose said:
I haven't read all up on this. And Cllct is run by Darren Rovell who is one step below used car salesman. But this doesnt smell right to me. Is this going to a scholarship fund or something. Otherwise we're just profiting off a legendary man/coach who just passed away. Someone please keep me honest if I missed the hook.
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Yeah I agree, I like the idea of more memorabilia, but this does seem off. I did a quick calculation and if they sell everything it'd be $32K plus whatever they make on the dual autograph auction. The cards also don't appear to confirm that these were taken from THE sweaters that they both wore, which would be absolutely crazy if they're not, but without confirmation it's too much money. Generally sports cards always make it clear when relics are game worn.

Further I doubt any of this is going towards NIL, otherwise it'd be specified. I'd like to support the school's efforts on memorabilia, but think I'll pass for now.
 
ADORAZ said:
Yeah I agree, I like the idea of more memorabilia, but this does seem off. I did a quick calculation and if they sell everything it'd be $32K plus whatever they make on the second autographed auction. The cards also don't appear to confirm that these were taken from THE sweaters that they both wore, which would be absolutely crazy if true, but without confirmation it's too much money. Generally sports cards always make it clear when relics are game worn.

Further I doubt any of this is going towards NIL, otherwise it'd be specified. I'd like to support the school's efforts on memorabilia, but think I'll pass for now.
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Is it an enlarged pic of material or actual material? I dp now see it's saying fabric..

I thought someone said Lou's original sweater is in the HOF and what's in the school lobby showcase was a replica. Didn't think the card had material but if it does I hope they are not selling this and claiming it's the original material if indeed it's in the HOF. And if replica, did they chop up what is in the lobby showcase?
 
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RedStormNC said:
Is it an enlarged pic of material or actual material? I dp now see it's saying fabric..

I thought someone said Lou's original sweater is in the HOF and what's in the school lobby showcase was a replica. Didn't think the card had material but if it does I hope they are not selling this and claiming it's the original material if indeed it's in the HOF. And if replica, did they chop up what is in the lobby showcase?
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It's definitely real material (fabric), but I'm leaning towards it not being from their actual sweaters. Maybe they recreated the fabric pattern or found the same style sweater and cut it up. Either way, if it's not from their actual game worn sweaters, then this is a scam. $400 for something incredibly misleading like this would be shameful, because at prices that high people would have to assume they're genuine game worn relics.

Hopefully my guess is wrong here, because it'd be an awful move by the school if that's the case. I can't make out all of the text at the bottom of the cards (need a passcode to enlarge), but that may clarify things.
 
ADORAZ said:
It's definitely real material (fabric), but I'm leaning towards it not being from their actual sweaters. Maybe they recreated the fabric pattern or found the same style sweater and cut it up. Either way, if it's not from their actual game worn sweaters, then this is a scam. $400 for something incredibly misleading like this would be shameful, because at prices that high people would have to assume they're genuine game worn relics.

Hopefully my guess is wrong here, because it'd be an awful move by the school if that's the case. I can't make out all of the text at the bottom of the cards (need a passcode to enlarge), but that may clarify things.
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I agree.. anything not original seems fraudulent if marketing ad is stating "fabric from Coach Carnesecca's famous sweater"
 
RedStormNC said:
I agree.. anything not original seems fraudulent if marketing ad is stating "fabric from Coach Carnesecca's famous sweater"
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Yeah, cutting up his sweater would only make sense if Lou had multiple sweaters he wore to different games and they decided to cut up one of them. If that's true about the original being in the Hall of Fame and the school's being a replica, then have to think this promo uses replicas as well. Anyone dropping hundreds on these should demand clarification, because otherwise they're potentially being scammed. If they're game worn then Cllct would be very happy to clarify and market them that way.
 
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