Revamped Big East
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alexd.
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The BE still doesn't have a TV contract for 2013. Even with L-Ville, WVU, Gtown, Nova and UCONN still in the BE for hoops, football will still have a lot to say about what kind of contract the conference can get. Why do you think the service academies are being discussed as football only? TV interest. Today the Big East statement mentioned stressing academics as well as athletics when adding to the conference. That would put schools like Temple & Memphis way behind an SMU.
Agreed, to much talking and not enough action. Let's start to pull this thing together. IMHO, Memphis, Temple and Houston are a must for all sports and then add the service acadamies for football. Haven't heard SMU before but not a bad add there. ECU and Central Florida are second Tier options although Central Florida brings in the Orlando market I believe.
If you ask me, ND is the glue right now to the Big East not falling apart. They won't diss their brethren Catholic schools over money like state schools would do!
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...ve-commissioner-ok-expand-big-east-conference
WASHINGTON -- The presidents and chancellors of the 14 remaining Big East members and TCU have authorized commissioner John Marinatto to "aggressively pursue discussions" with certain schools interested in joining the league.
The league released a statement after Sunday's meeting at Georgetown University in Washington. The meeting had been scheduled before Syracuse and Pittsburgh announced last month they will leave the conference to join the Atlantic Coast Conference.
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ESPN.com's Andrea Adelson writes about all things Big East in the conference blog.
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A source with knowledge of the meeting told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that the Big East did not issue any invitations Sunday. The source said a number of schools were discussed, including Navy, Army, Air Force, Temple, Central Florida and a new name in SMU, which would be a natural rival with TCU if the Horned Frogs honor the commitment to join the conference in 2012-13. All of these schools except Army and Navy would join the Big East for all sports.
The timing of Pitt and Syracuse's departure was also on the agenda, a source said. Pitt and Syracuse would like to get out for the 2012-13 season. But Marinatto has said he wants to hold the schools to the 27-month departure requirement.
ACC commissioner John Swofford said at the time of adding Pitt and Syracuse that he would honor that time frame. The exit fee is $5 million, but that could always be negotiated up, according to sources, to expedite the departure.
Connecticut still would rather be in the ACC than stay in the Big East if given the choice, a source said. But the Huskies' administration expect that the ACC is in no rush to expand beyond 14 after adding Pitt and Syracuse. The Huskies are prepared for this to drag on for quite some time.
Swofford has said he is comfortable at 14, but not philosophically against 16. The ACC would likely want to add Notre Dame and then Connecticut as a 16th school if it were to add two more schools. But Notre Dame continues to maintain its desire to be an independent in football and keep all its other sports in the Big East.
The original purpose of the meeting was to discuss the conference's upcoming television rights negotiations, but the defections forced expansion onto the agenda.
The Big East says the presidents also are "actively considering changes to the conference's governing bylaws to further solidify the membership of the conference."
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...ve-commissioner-ok-expand-big-east-conference
WASHINGTON -- The presidents and chancellors of the 14 remaining Big East members and TCU have authorized commissioner John Marinatto to "aggressively pursue discussions" with certain schools interested in joining the league.
The league released a statement after Sunday's meeting at Georgetown University in Washington. The meeting had been scheduled before Syracuse and Pittsburgh announced last month they will leave the conference to join the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Big East blog
ESPN.com's Andrea Adelson writes about all things Big East in the conference blog.
• Blog network:
College Football Nation
A source with knowledge of the meeting told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that the Big East did not issue any invitations Sunday. The source said a number of schools were discussed, including Navy, Army, Air Force, Temple, Central Florida and a new name in SMU, which would be a natural rival with TCU if the Horned Frogs honor the commitment to join the conference in 2012-13. All of these schools except Army and Navy would join the Big East for all sports.
The timing of Pitt and Syracuse's departure was also on the agenda, a source said. Pitt and Syracuse would like to get out for the 2012-13 season. But Marinatto has said he wants to hold the schools to the 27-month departure requirement.
ACC commissioner John Swofford said at the time of adding Pitt and Syracuse that he would honor that time frame. The exit fee is $5 million, but that could always be negotiated up, according to sources, to expedite the departure.
Connecticut still would rather be in the ACC than stay in the Big East if given the choice, a source said. But the Huskies' administration expect that the ACC is in no rush to expand beyond 14 after adding Pitt and Syracuse. The Huskies are prepared for this to drag on for quite some time.
Swofford has said he is comfortable at 14, but not philosophically against 16. The ACC would likely want to add Notre Dame and then Connecticut as a 16th school if it were to add two more schools. But Notre Dame continues to maintain its desire to be an independent in football and keep all its other sports in the Big East.
The original purpose of the meeting was to discuss the conference's upcoming television rights negotiations, but the defections forced expansion onto the agenda.
The Big East says the presidents also are "actively considering changes to the conference's governing bylaws to further solidify the membership of the conference."
Notre dame isn't the glue. If they wanted to be the glue, they'd join the Big East for football and be luring other big time football schools in. If Notre dame tomorrow said they'd join the big east for football, you can bet a lot of schools would change their tune on all of this and th Big East football conference would be a contender to lure schools like PSU, Maryland, BC and others into the fold. To the contrary, Notre dame staying independent is exactly why the league is collapsing. The other factors causing the league collapse is obviously Pitt and Cuse leaving. All of this would likely have been an afterthought had the Big East taken Penn State back in the 80's.
tom in salem
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Marcus, have you been drinking Otis's Kool-aid?
Which part do you disagree with?
That Notre dame is the glue even though they don't contribute to big east football? That we might not be havin these discussions if PSU was admitted back in the day? Or that if Notre dame ante'd into Big East football, the league would not have all these teams walk the plank. I'm not saying any of those things would ever happen. I just don't think that Notre dame is any sort of glue for this conference and is quite the contrary.
Pitino says Memphis not ready:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/03/big-east-to-expand-but-pitino-says-memphis-not-ready/#more-58781
Honestly, Pitino seems like the only trustworthy person in this entire fiasco. Too bad he'll be overruled by the higher-ups at his school if the Big 12 comes calling.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/03/big-east-to-expand-but-pitino-says-memphis-not-ready/#more-58781
Honestly, Pitino seems like the only trustworthy person in this entire fiasco. Too bad he'll be overruled by the higher-ups at his school if the Big 12 comes calling.
tom in salem
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Your Penn St. analogy.
Btw, just because Memphis football isn't "ready" right now doesn't mean they can be a nice part of the puzzle over the next few years with improved coaching and recruiting. I'd still like Memphis to be on board and think they're a good option for both sports, but this is not about what bball fans think.
Too bad Repole didn't grab the Mets and Citifield last year. Maybe we'd have a D1 football program playing there...lol.
Too bad Repole didn't grab the Mets and Citifield last year. Maybe we'd have a D1 football program playing there...lol.
tom in salem
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“In fact, I would trade Air Force or Navy for Syracuse every day of the week in terms of the quality of the football program. No disrespect, but that’s just an observation I think most would agree with who understand football.”
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...air-force-for-syracuse-every-day-of-the-week/
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...air-force-for-syracuse-every-day-of-the-week/
add the academies for football only makes sense from that side of the equation, but it is still a huge loss from a basketball side. I can't think of any basketball-only members that would replace Syracuse and Pitt. Temple is a nice program, but it isn't Syracuse or Pitt. The only two teams on the national landscape that would be equivalent replacements and which might conceivably become available are Kansas and Baylor, who would presumably want K State and Iowa State to come along with them.
That would be a net plus for the conference in football AND basketball.
Die, Big 12, die.
That would be a net plus for the conference in football AND basketball.
Die, Big 12, die.
tom in salem
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Big East turned out OK in '03, can survive this time, too
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...turned-out-ok-in-03-can-survive-this-time-too
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...turned-out-ok-in-03-can-survive-this-time-too