Revamped Big East

 If they come in for the other sports it'll be a joke.

Navy and Air Force would be good additions to the football side. Also, invite Butler to the Big East and Xavier.

All the Big East schools commited last night to keep the Big East together. So that means UCONN is staying ? UCONN would make a huge mistake leaving the Big East. With Pitt and Syracuse gone, they'll be the team to beat in the BE. 
 
 If they come in for the other sports it'll be a joke.

Navy and Air Force would be good additions to the football side. Also, invite Butler to the Big East and Xavier.

All the Big East schools commited last night to keep the Big East together. So that means UCONN is staying ? UCONN would make a huge mistake leaving the Big East. With Pitt and Syracuse gone, they'll be the team to beat in the BE. 
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It's already been reported that the service academies would be football only members. 
 
 
Dick Weiss on Facebook posted:
if nova ever wanted to upgrade football push for big east invite, now is the time.
 
 Weiss should stick to hoops.
As one pmg911 would say, that ship has sailed.
And u gave that post o "like" click?
What advantage would STJ ever have if nova went D1 football?
Who are you rooting for here? 
 
Last night was a complete window dressing. Big East football is not going to survive the week.

ND will stay independent. Texas is already staying in the B12. That means ACC is going to pluck UConn and Rutgers.

Then the newly reconstituted B12 is going to make a run at a few BE schools like Louisville, Cincy, WVU to fill out their conference.
 
 MainMan,

How can Notre Dame stay "Independent" in football if it loses the bowl tie ins which the Big East now provides?

If the Big East football folds then so will Notre Dame's bowl tie ins which the Big East now provides. It seems that if the Big East football folds then that event will force Notre Dame to join a league.
 
 MainMan,

How can Notre Dame stay "Independent" in football if it loses the bowl tie ins which the Big East now provides?

If the Big East football folds then so will Notre Dame's bowl tie ins which the Big East now provides. It seems that if the Big East football folds then that event will force Notre Dame to join a league.
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ND's BCS bowl bid isn't tied to the Big East. They have their own inclusion rules.
 
Tom.

There are 5 BCS Bowls which Notre Dame has its own deal and does not need a conference affiliation. 

There are approximately 30 non BCS Bowls which are contracted by conference.

The Big East has contracts with the following Bowls which provides Notre Dame a tie in:
Liberty,
Pinstripe,
Champs Sports,
Belk,
Beef O'Brady's

Each of the other conferences has like tie in agreements. Under the present set up Notre Dame would not be able to secure a non BCS bid.unless it had a conference affiliation.
 
 If they come in for the other sports it'll be a joke.

Navy and Air Force would be good additions to the football side. Also, invite Butler to the Big East and Xavier.

All the Big East schools commited last night to keep the Big East together. So that means UCONN is staying ? UCONN would make a huge mistake leaving the Big East. With Pitt and Syracuse gone, they'll be the team to beat in the BE. 
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JS, why would we need more hoops teams when league has 14 now? If there were to be a split, Butler and Xavier would be great additions to the non-football schools.  
 
Tom.

There are 5 BCS Bowls which Notre Dame has its own deal and does not need a conference affiliation. 

There are approximately 30 non BCS Bowls which are contracted by conference.

The Big East has contracts with the following Bowls which provides Notre Dame a tie in:
Liberty,
Pinstripe,
Champs Sports,
Belk,
Beef O'Brady's

Each of the other conferences has like tie in agreements. Under the present set up Notre Dame would not be able to secure a non BCS bid.unless it had a conference affiliation.
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I'll bet my life if they stay independent, they will have no problem bowling.
You know my brother is a big donor there.
I'll check with him. 
 
Last night was a complete window dressing. Big East football is not going to survive the week.

ND will stay independent. Texas is already staying in the B12. That means ACC is going to pluck UConn and Rutgers.

Then the newly reconstituted B12 is going to make a run at a few BE schools like Louisville, Cincy, WVU to fill out their conference.
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I have agreed with all of your posts on this subject, and I agree with this one too, with the exception of WVU. Nobody seems to want WVU because it has no TV market. They would have made sense geographically for either the ACC or the SEC, and neither was interested.

UConn and Rutgers to the ACC makes sense. As of today apparently the PAC-10 does NOT want Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, so the Big !2 appears to remain a shotgun marriage.

One would assume that some teams will splinter off from there (Missouri, T A & M) to go to the SEC or the Big 10, and that would provide an opening for the Big 12 to pick off Louisville and Cincy (as well as TCU, which really has zero reason to join the Big East at this point). South Florida would seem to be a fit for the SEC also.

Bear in mind that at some point the PAC-10 will become a landing spot for teams also.

So that leaves the Big East with this:

Basketball only:

St. Johns
Georgetown
Seton Hall
DePaul
Providence
Marquette
Villanova
Notre Dame

Football/Basketball:

West Virginia

By the way, I don't know if these schools would be entitled to either the Big East name or the automatic bid - apparently the rule is that you have to have had 7 schools play in the same conference for 8 years to have the rights to the name.

Anyway, unless the Big 12 splinters (instead of surviving by taking schools from the BE and elsewhere), this would eliminate the Big East as a football conference, or certainly as a BCS football conference. You have 9 basketball schools, and presumably can find another 1-3 to make a nice conference considering the Philly area (Temple, St. Joe's), New England (URI, UMass, St Bonaventure) and the midwest (Butler, Xavier, Dayton). At the end of the day, though, that conference is really just a glorified A-10.

The best case scenario for the BE is that the Big 12 splits up. If that occurs then the BE could probably pick up four good football/basketball schools, improve its chances of holding on to a couple of existing football/basketball schools beyond WVU (such as Cincy and Louisville), and might actually be a better basketball and football league than it is now.

Keep your fingers crossed and root for dissension in the Big 12.
 
Tom.

There are 5 BCS Bowls which Notre Dame has its own deal and does not need a conference affiliation. 

There are approximately 30 non BCS Bowls which are contracted by conference.

The Big East has contracts with the following Bowls which provides Notre Dame a tie in:
Liberty,
Pinstripe,
Champs Sports,
Belk,
Beef O'Brady's

Each of the other conferences has like tie in agreements. Under the present set up Notre Dame would not be able to secure a non BCS bid.unless it had a conference affiliation.
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I'll bet my life if they stay independent, they will have no problem bowling.
You know my brother is a big donor there.
I'll check with him. 
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Just spoke with my brother, who informs me endee has an in with all of the BCS bowls for sure and to the best of his knowledge , all the other minor bowls.
FWIW, said endee has to have a gun put to their head to join the ACC,
 
It's ridiculous that no one would want West Virginia because of lack of TV market. You'd think that with all the money currently made, adding a quality football program over the past how many years would be enough -- especially when a really good basketball program and a famous coach tags along for the ride.

I'd love to see Texas get pissed that everyone wants a piece of their LHN revenue and say screw it and go independent. And then have Louisville, West Virginia, S. Florida, TCU, and Cincy join OU, OSU, KU, KSU, Baylor, Texas Tech, and Iowa St. in the Big 12. We could move on with out post-football lives, and then pray that UConn and Rutgers get stranded without a conference.
 
There is only one thing certain after the events of the last few days: I haven't been this unproductive at work since Norm was fired.
 
army and navy??? please, no more bad news. i've had enough already. 
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 Why bad news. Big East would be lucky if they come. If it keeps the conference together we still got a top notch 14 team hoops conference to play in, and it keeps the ACC tourny out of MSG. I think Army just beat Northwestern, and Navy plays N.Dame tough and has beaten them. E.Carolina has a good program, and if Air Force came, great. After having all the creeps show their colors I think the BE should be honored to have the military Academies join their conference. Of course if it's not a money maker...
 
 Tom

Did you notice the name of the one bowl? the Beef O'Brady's Bowl.
 
 http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2011/09/big_east_will_look_to_add_navy.html

Big East will look to add Navy, Air Force for football only
 
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