Iona had an A-10 roster and beat every MAAC team too
The MAAC is objectively the weaker league in the every single conference ranking for decades. It’s not even debatable.
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The MAAC is objectively the weaker league in the every single conference ranking for decades. It’s not even debatable.
All true . Plus Dingle shot the ball a lot for Penn. Shot 9-25 against Princeton I think
Most of his games , he was shooting in the mid to high double digits . Never with real good percentage . Not a good 3 point shooter either .
It’s easy to score if you shoot enough . In the fabric of this team , he’s had more than ample opportunity to score at a level expected . He’s failed . Regrettably .
And , it doesn’t appear he and Rick are on the same page . Defensively he’s been awful , which Rick doesn’t tolerate .
SJUDave
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No he had prior obligations.
But , we are talking about Iona last year . Coached by Pitino and Jenkins being the team’s second leading scorer .Iona had an A-10 roster and beat every MAAC team too
Jenkins Vs Dingle is a no brainer . Jenkins by a knockout in the first round .
The Ivy is usually dominated by Princeton , Penn on occasion but , never the rest of the pack .
Columbia , Dartmouth , Brown , Cornell , Harvard ? Hah .
If it 12 rated , it’s over rated . The MAAC is basically Iona , Siena once in a while , Quinnipiac this year and nobody else . No one is saying it’s a super Conference but , neither is the Ivy League .
SJUDave
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It's mid February and only one guy can confidently say they are starting the game and will be in at the start and end. Hard to build confidence, hard to know your role, hard for the staff to have a plan this way. Now that falls on both parties, players haven't played well enough to give coaches that comfort, while at the same time guys like Wilcher, Dunlap, Conway, Alleyne have not really been able to play through hiccups to develop any confidence. It's very hard to be a coach and very hard to push those buttons correctly, and doing it on the fly. I just think a lot of the frustration with all this is magnified when you lose 7 of 9 as well.
Dingle shot 46.4% last year with insane volume
Dingle scored 25 against Villanova on 15 shots. He scored 18 against Missouri on 14 shots. He scored 37 against A-10 Lasalle on 22 shots. Now he can’t score.
I really do think Taylor's confidence is completely shot. He looks like a much different player, for the worse, now than he did in November/December when he was an energized defender & took the ball to the basket.
That’s putting the ball up a great deal to score those numbers . He like David Jones , shoots too much , gets his points but , doesn’t get assists ,
Give it up man , Dingle has been a big disappointment . And ,,Jenkins has nothing to do with Dingle being a BE Role player .
If you watch the games , instead of trashing Jenkins , you would see that Dingle has had many chances to perform well and hasn’t. You don’t mention he is a disaster on defense .
You make us think Dingle would be BE player of the year . Not even close
You are always mentioning players taking too many shots. Different players have different roles and scorers take shots. This isn’t biddy basketball
Crimson , so you are saying that Dingle is a Scorer in the BE ? And , it’s only in the context of Jones and Dingle that are scorers and have free reign?You are always mentioning players taking too many shots. Different players have different roles and scorers take shots. This isn’t biddy basketball
If you recall , the consensus of this Board was that Jones was a ball hogging , hoop chucking player. No question he can shoot but , it’s a team game . Jones has continued that at Memphis and Hardaway is ok with it , I think .
It wouldn’t be here with Pitino.
As for Dingle here , he has had ample chances and put up enough shots for us to see , he is not a BE scorer . He’s been in double digits often this year with number of shots with not much return .,
I guess his Coach at Penn was ok with him shooting so much . Sure he averaged 23 a game but , if you have to put it up 25 times to do it , is that Team BB.?
Jenkins has never put it up 25 times here but , another poster wants to sell the idea that Jenkins is the ruination of this years team .
Nothing could be further from reality .
Shaka Smart was quoted as saying “ Daniss Jenkins is one of the best Guards in the Country and will continue to play at the next level .”
You could say that’s Coach speak but , is it really ?
Marquette was determined to stop Jenkins and that didn’t happen . Despite their best efforts .
That other poster wants to sell the falsehood that Dingle is a better. shooting option than Jenkins . That doesn’t fly . Sometimes stats aren’t the full story .
L J S A
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Slyfoxx would bench Iverson if he was coaching him.You are always mentioning players taking too many shots. Different players have different roles and scorers take shots. This isn’t biddy basketball
Yes Dingle can’t score. Maybe it’s the shoulder injury. But he has been a huge disappointment. Pitino encouraged him to take 25 threes. Told him to shoot more. But he can’t and won’t. He is an enigma. No one who follows basketball and saw his game last year would have predicted him to play and shoot so badly. He wanted to go pro last year. Right now he could not make some recreational league teams. Head case like Soriano? Pressure of NYC spot light ? I have no idea. I keep hoping he says screw it and just goes out and does it. But I have been thinking that since Charleston when I met his Dad, a true gentleman. This season has been a disaster for his pro hopes. But there is time for him to reclaim it. Let us pray.
This is a great post.
Great post.
Rocket
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A lot of frustrated fans here.
Some make good objective points while others stick to their biased personal views.
Imagine how frustrated Rick Pitino is at this point of the season when the man you built this team around has played so poorly and has spiraled in a such a negative direction that the team cannot rely on him any longer.
The team is composed of average shooters at best but key players like Dingle and Luis have shot below average circa 40%.
Sorry Marillac2 but Daniss Jenkins has been the only consistent player on this team.
Daniss and Walt were two of D1's best backcourt combos at Iona. This team would have been dramatically different had we gotten both to follow RP.
The Taylor recruitment was a mistake. He is no O'Mar Stanley that's for sure.
To me, Soriano has been the biggest disappointment as he has not risen to the occasion in major close losses.......Providence being the lowest point of the season.
Yes, this team is a box of chocolates but I would never write a Pitino coached off.
Imagine if every kid showed up to play!
Some make good objective points while others stick to their biased personal views.
Imagine how frustrated Rick Pitino is at this point of the season when the man you built this team around has played so poorly and has spiraled in a such a negative direction that the team cannot rely on him any longer.
The team is composed of average shooters at best but key players like Dingle and Luis have shot below average circa 40%.
Sorry Marillac2 but Daniss Jenkins has been the only consistent player on this team.
Daniss and Walt were two of D1's best backcourt combos at Iona. This team would have been dramatically different had we gotten both to follow RP.
The Taylor recruitment was a mistake. He is no O'Mar Stanley that's for sure.
To me, Soriano has been the biggest disappointment as he has not risen to the occasion in major close losses.......Providence being the lowest point of the season.
Yes, this team is a box of chocolates but I would never write a Pitino coached off.
Imagine if every kid showed up to play!
carmineabbatiello
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My friend - you've lost it. Why would any St. John's fan give a flying f*ck what FG % our recent transfers shot last year? Jenkins is shooting a better percentage than Dingle from 3, from 2 and at the line including 38% to 24% on in conference 3's. I would say your grasping at straws but perhaps cocktail stirrers is more apropos. Stick to my favorite argument of yours that Jenkins is to blame for Dingle's, and others, misses. Of course, that too is ridiculous and absurd, but at least it's comical.
Silly Donovan
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You know what they say about the attraction to conspiracy theories??? It makes stupid people feel smart.
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Haha my one question I need Marillac to answer, how many more wide open shots does Alleyne need to miss for us before we can officially retire the Alleyne Virginia Tech shooting numbers from these conversations