@Providence, Tue., Feb. 13, 7p, CBSSN

Groundhog Day.
Soriano misses easy putback that comes back to haunt.
One guy that can hit a 3 tonight, Conway, never gets a good look at one, why?
Never get a call when we need it.
Ledlum shooting 3s, sure miss.
RJ, always someone else's fault, whether he's throwing a bad pass or someone hits him in the hands with a pass.
 
So depressing. Why no timeout on that last possession??? And WTF was going on with the rotations, again? What’s the thought process Pitino?
 
Again I think that allot of our frustration comes from the following quote…… “St. John’s is going win and we’re going to win big. And it’s going to happen fast, not in years but months”. Its not Mullin or Anderson saying that it’s Rick Pitino, HOF coach. How can we not be disappointed in what has transpired?
 
Notanalum said:
I don’t understand how we allow Oduro to do that to us? He’s a good player but barbecue chicken times 100 in the second half. Absolutely embarrassed us
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The harshest of realities down the stretch of this season is that Soriano is probably about the 5 th or 6 th best Centers in the league ..Oduro abused him all night and Joel put up another clunker on offense . We have over rated Soriano beyond his skills . That’s on us as fans .

One of the biggest weaknesses of the team is that they are very poor shooters . We have guys playing who hit 3 point shots .

Whoever blew smoke up Pitino’s Ass that Dingle could score in the BE should be identified and ask for forgiveness and banned from Recruiting .

Our Ivy League All Stars are out of the skill level in the BE . And , we all had them penciled in as impact players

Luis is too turnover prone at the most in opportune times . He has game but ,,his handle needs a lot of work and his IQ on the Court needs mucho off season tutelage .

Jenkins doesn’t have much help from this Roster .
 
dk423 said:
The crazy thing is that our half-court defense was actually pretty good. We caused a few shot clock violations, shut down Carter. Soriano killed us against Odoro.

But the thing that really hurt us was the transition defense. Just pitiful hustle and attention to detail. If not for that, we would've won this game.
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He’s the big difference, Kim English saw Oforo was killing us and they got the ball to him EVERY chance they got. Carter their star sacrificed by nit taking his 14 shots per game to play winning basketball.

We found a weak spot in their D around the elbow, where Luis, Jenkins, and Soriano all made easy shots, but Coach ‘we need to take more 3’ did us in again with an 0-fer in the second half.
 
SLYFOXX1968 said:
The harshest of realities down the stretch of this season is that Soriano is probably about the 5 th or 6 th best Centers in the league ..Oduro abused him all night and Joel put up another clunker on offense . We have over rated Soriano beyond his skills . That’s on us as fans .

One of the biggest weaknesses of the team is that they are very poor shooters . We have guys playing who hit 3 point shots .

Whoever blew smoke up Pitino’s Ass that Dingle could score in the BE should be identified and ask for forgiveness and banned from Recruiting .

Our Ivy League All Stars are out of the skill level in the BE . And , we all had them penciled in as impact players

Luis is too turnover prone at the most in opportune times . He has game but ,,his handle needs a lot of work and his IQ on the Court needs mucho off season tutelage .

Jenkins doesn’t have much help from this Roster .
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Overeating Soriano is not just in us fans, Pitino built the team around him.
 
Soriano was voted preseason first All-Big East team by the coaches.

These are the guys he was voted over:
Preseason All-BIG EAST Second Team
Donovan Clingan, Connecticut, C, So., 7-2, 280, Bristol, Conn.
Baylor Scheierman, Creighton, G, Sr., 6-7, 205, Aurora, Neb.
Oso Ighodaro, Marquette, F, Sr., 6-11, 225, Chandler, Ariz.
Kam Jones, Marquette, G, Jr., 6-5, 200, Memphis, Tenn.
Eric Dixon, Villanova, F, R-Sr., 6-8, 255, Willow Grove, Pa.

Preseason All-BIG EAST Honorable Mention
Alex Karaban, Connecticut, F, R-So., 6-8, 220, Southborough, Mass.
Devin Carter, Providence, G, Jr., 6-3, 195, Miami, Fla.
Zach Freemantle, Xavier, F, Gr., 6-9, 227, Teaneck, N.J.

How insane is this, in retrospect?

Between this and Pitino's preseason hype of him, I just think he's not that good & it's gotten to his head. But none of that is on us.
 
We had 14 more offensive rebounds than them and only one more turnover. That means we essentially got 13 more chances to score than them and still blew a halftime lead. That's why this team is not going to go on a run over the next month
 
MugCostanza said:
In retrospect it shouldn't have been hard to see this slide coming. It's mid February and we're the only team in the league that has no clue what it's rotations or lineups are going to be from game to game. We have guys going from 0 mins to 20 mins and vice versa from game to game on a regular basis. Our Captain and supposedly All League player has effectively been benched.

The season is essentially over. We are well past the point of it being possible that some sort of switch will be flipped and the team goes on a run to get back in the tourney picture. There are way too many mental midgets on this team for that.

At this point Rick needs to figure out which of the current players he wants back next season and do what he can to keep them here. If that means playing Sim, Dunlap and Zuby for 30 mins each so be it.
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Exactly...the season is over! I got some tasty dog excrement on a stick for anybody who thinks that we still have a chance....get real! Starty looking toward next year and get Wilcher and Dunlap some time instead of riding the pine before one of them enters the portal. He has coached very poorly this year. Lack of fundamentals is the first sign of poor coaching and he's not excused from scrutiny just because he's RP.
 
After the win vs. Providence at home, we went 2-7 -- with one of the wins being against DePaul. What a brutal, brutal stretch.
 
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Ok post game story time : March 1988 at Providence.
Place is sold out , fans are all over Coach Carnesecca all game. Tough game lots of fouls. There was some guy sitting four rows right behind me just ripping our guys. I gave him the look a few times during time outs. So near the end of the game, Jayson Williams picks up his 5th foul. He walks to the bench. Sitting in seat number 1 and keeping stats for the team, I turn my head to the right to see who Louie is subbing in. Just then I hear the loudmouth behind me screaming some really bad stuff at Jayson. Jayson calmly bends down picks up a bench chair, fold it and tosses it at that fan. He missed his intended target and hits a fan in the 3rd row instead. Jayson then runs at the loudmouth fan to confront him. With that all hell breaks loose, burly security guys try to stop him from getting into the stands. Now our team is trying to follow Jayson to protect him, then one of our players cold cocks a security guard holding him back. That brought the police to the court. People started throwing trash at the team.
Refs stayed out of it as they should, but Big East Conference officials took charge of the game. Calmed things down with fan announcements. Williams escorted to the locker room by Rutledge.
Game ends and PC players walk with us off the court and into our runway so the fans won’t pelt us anymore. class act by Providence AD.
In the locker room it was mayhem. One of the coaches yell,out NOBODY ENTERS our room. A minute later, two Providence police officers are knocking on the door. Our players are scared shit. Finally a team manger opens the door and lets them in, and he puts his hands on the first cop telling him they can’t come in. Big mistake putting hands on a cop. The cop then grabs the kid, places him against the wall and places his elbow under his chin, choking the manager as he screams never touch a cop doing his duty. I run to the cop and explain he is a young kid doing what he was told and the cop releases him with a warning. They escort Rutledge and Williams out of the team room to another room where he is led out to Be formally charged. No one says a word, we shower and board the bus without Jayson and Rutledge and head home. Somebody listens to WCBS News radio on the bus and hears them talking about Jayson getting charged .
Months later Jayson and a few team mates were asked to go to NYC to a lawyers office to give depositions. Lawyer asks Jayson and the players if they are hungry (what college kid isn’t?) so they look over menus and start ordering all kinds of food…months later Jayson got a bill for about a grand for all the food they ordered.
 
Alumni Hall said:
Ok post game story time : March 1988 at Providence.
Place is sold out , fans are all over Coach Carnesecca all game. Tough game lots of fouls. There was some guy sitting four rows right behind me just ripping our guys. I gave him the look a few times during time outs. So near the end of the game, Jayson Williams picks up his 5th foul. He walks to the bench. Sitting in seat number 1 and keeping stats for the team, I turn my head to the right to see who Louie is subbing in. Just then I hear the loudmouth behind me screaming some really bad stuff at Jayson. Jayson calmly bends down picks up a bench chair, fold it and tosses it at that fan. He missed his intended target and hits a fan in the 3rd row instead. Jayson then runs at the loudmouth fan to confront him. With that all hell breaks loose, burly security guys try to stop him from getting into the stands. Now our team is trying to follow Jayson to protect him, then one of our players cold cocks a security guard holding him back. That brought the police to the court. People started throwing trash at the team.
Refs stayed out of it as they should, but Big East Conference officials took charge of the game. Calmed things down with fan announcements. Williams escorted to the locker room by Rutledge.
Game ends and PC players walk with us off the court and into our runway so the fans won’t pelt us anymore. class act by Providence AD.
In the locker room it was mayhem. One of the coaches yell,out NOBODY ENTERS our room. A minute later, two Providence police officers are knocking on the door. Our players are scared shit. Finally a team manger opens the door and lets them in, and he puts his hands on the first cop telling him they can’t come in. Big mistake putting hands on a cop. The cop then grabs the kid, places him against the wall and places his elbow under his chin, choking the manager as he screams never touch a cop doing his duty. I run to the cop and explain he is a young kid doing what he was told and the cop releases him with a warning. They escort Rutledge and Williams out of the team room to another room where he is led out to Be formally charged. No one says a word, we shower and board the bus without Jayson and Rutledge and head home. Somebody listens to WCBS News radio on the bus and hears them talking about Jayson getting charged .
Months later Jayson and a few team mates were asked to go to NYC to a lawyers office to give depositions. Lawyer asks Jayson and the players if they are hungry (what college kid isn’t?) so they look over menus and start ordering all kinds of food…months later Jayson got a bill for about a grand for all the food they ordered.
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That was my freshman year at St. John’s I remember that game ( Jayson throwing the chair ) but holy cow the rest of that story is classic insaneness ! That’s great stuff !

Actually that was the year before I went to St Johns but I remember the game. I was in Malik's Jason etc class the following year
 
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