Pre Season Predictions 2023

logen said:
I could be wrong of course but I think the idea they are going to need an inordinate amount of time to develop chemistry is being overblown. We have veteran players, a coach who specializes in developing and blending teams and I would dare say virtually every BE team is incorporating key new players; maybe not to the degree SJU is but nonetheless they are.
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Agree , they have been practicing together since early July . Exception being Jenkins but , he’s a Pitino on the Court according to Rick .
 
1. St. John’s has 11 non conference games this season. What will its non conference record be.

9-2

2. St. John’s will play 20 regular season Big East Conference games. What will its Conference record ?

12-8

3. How many wins will the Johnnies do against its Conference foes? (your answer: 0 wins, 1 win, 2 wins)

Butler 2

UConn 1

Creighton 1

DePaul 2

Georgetown 1

Marquette 1

Providence 1

Seton Hall 1

Villanova 1

Xavier 1

4. What will the Johnnies regular season win- loss record be ?

21-10

5. How may games will the Johnnies win in the Big East Tournament ?

2

6. What team will win the regular season Big East Championship?

UCONN

7. What team will win the Big East Tournament ?

UCONN

8. Will St. John’s be invited to the NCAA Tournament

YES

9. If the Johnnies are invited to the NCAA Tournament many games will they win?

2

10. What bold or not so bold prediction(s) about the upcoming St. John’s season would you like to make ?
At least 1 freshman will be starting by the BE regular season
StJ has 3 players drafted (1 first round, 2 second round) in 2024 NBA draft
Elite 8 not out of the realm
 
I’ll wait till after exhibitions to guess the OOC record

-12-8 in conference
- BET finals loss
- 7 seed NCAA tourney
- lose to 2 seed Michigan state


Leading scorer
- Ledlum

Leading Rebounder
- Joel

Most Assists
- Jenkins

Most 3 pointers
- Dingle

Best Defender
- Taylor

Closing 5
Tight Game closing minutes
- Jenkins
- Dingle
- Luis
- Ledlum
- Joel

Close lead final minute (Ledlum poor FT shooter)
- Jenkins
- Dingle
- Alleyne
- Luis
- Joel
 
Amaseinyourface said:
I’ll wait till after exhibitions to guess the OOC record

-12-8 in conference
- BET finals loss
- 7 seed NCAA tourney
- lose to 2 seed Michigan state


Leading scorer
- Ledlum

Leading Rebounder
- Joel

Most Assists
- Jenkins

Most 3 pointers
- Dingle

Best Defender
- Taylor

Closing 5
Tight Game closing minutes
- Jenkins
- Dingle
- Luis
- Ledlum
- Joel

Close lead final minute (Ledlum poor FT shooter)
- Jenkins
- Dingle
- Alleyne
- Luis
- Joel
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You can’t wait, you have to go in blind like the rest of us😂

If Dingle doesn’t lead the team in scoring that would be one of the biggest surprises in my time as a fan of this program. Ledlum, Soriano, Jenkins, and Luis are basically a coin toss for #2 to me. The dark horse there is Taylor.

I think we are seeing the same thing when it comes to Taylor on defense. He’s got quick feet and will be a deflection machine.

I feel sorry for whoever plays the 3 against us because we have 100 small forwards who will get playing time based mostly on how well they defend.
 
Marillac2 said:
You can’t wait, you have to go in blind like the rest of us😂

If Dingle doesn’t lead the team in scoring that would be one of the biggest surprises in my time as a fan of this program. Ledlum, Soriano, Jenkins, and Luis are basically a coin toss for #2 to me. The dark horse there is Taylor.

I think we are seeing the same thing when it comes to Taylor on defense. He’s got quick feet and will be a deflection machine.

I feel sorry for whoever plays the 3 against us because we have 100 small forwards who will get playing time based mostly on how well they defend.
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Fair enough lol

Here’s what I’ll predict for OOC:
- we win the Charleston classic but the rest of our resume won’t be as impressive as you’d think with that Tourney championship.
- I’ll say 9-2 with the Charleston Belt.

I think the secondary scoring options upfront are gonna be less than those found at the off guard. I think Dingle and ledlum will be neck and neck though.

I will add, I’m high on RJ as a defender. Not as quick side to side as Taylor but great length and good instincts. Not sure what you’ve seen in clips to worry you there.
 
Amaseinyourface said:
Fair enough lol

Here’s what I’ll predict for OOC:
- we win the Charleston classic but the rest of our resume won’t be as impressive as you’d think with that Tourney championship.
- I’ll say 9-2 with the Charleston Belt.

I think the secondary scoring options upfront are gonna be less than those found at the off guard. I think Dingle and ledlum will be neck and neck though.

I will add, I’m high on RJ as a defender. Not as quick side to side as Taylor but great length and good instincts. Not sure what you’ve seen in clips to worry you there.
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I also think we will win the classic. The depth on the roster will be very conducive to playing three games in four days.
 
If we meet up with Houston it ain’t gonna be easy. Ranked 6 and 7 in the two major polls with more returning players back and play tough hard nosed physical defense and with Rick saying we presently are turning it over too much it is going to be a tall order. Obviously would love to see it though.
 
Amaseinyourface said:
Fair enough lol

Here’s what I’ll predict for OOC:
- we win the Charleston classic but the rest of our resume won’t be as impressive as you’d think with that Tourney championship.
- I’ll say 9-2 with the Charleston Belt.

I think the secondary scoring options upfront are gonna be less than those found at the off guard. I think Dingle and ledlum will be neck and neck though.

I will add, I’m high on RJ as a defender. Not as quick side to side as Taylor but great length and good instincts. Not sure what you’ve seen in clips to worry you there.
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Luis is going to be a big steals guy...he's got potential to be a menace on the boards too if he plays with an edge. His quickness is not stellar, but versatility should be his strongest asset on defense...guarding 2-4. He kind of reminds me of a much taller Shamorie in some ways, because of his body control. Taylor looks super quick to me on defense...he could be a shut-down defender. You don't see that often in 6'6 players.

I can't wait to actually see these guys play meaningful games.
 
Wow! I think all in all, reading this thread, it looks to me like a pretty realistic view of the team’s chances. I was expecting an over the top optimistic prediction. 19-21 wins is realistic. I think the Johnnies will win 19 and need two in the Big East tournament to get in the NCAA tournament.
 
8-3 OOC
12-8 in the Big East

20-11. Comfortably on the right side of the bubble but they still win 2 games in the BET and then win the first NCAA tourney game in decades. But that’s it. They win 1 game in the tournament and then lose to a 2 or 3 seed but we still all celebrate that one tourney win like a Super Bowl because we deserve good things every 20 years or so.
 
If we go back to all of the pre-season prediction threads over the years. my best guess would be that there were more posts that ended up well over the number of wins. While this is the time to be optimistic, setting lofty goals with little to go on (at least for me)is not a rabbit hole I want to enter. We have been there all too often. This team is a near total rebuild. Some very good to good seasoned players, and some younger guys with potential that will have some growing pains. But no stars to carry the team. Our guys should get better, but some early season struggles are not out of the question.

Then again, having Coach Pitino hasn't sunk in yet, and may not until the team starts winning with regularity.
 
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