[quote="JohnnyFan" post=310742][quote="Eric Williamson" post=310739][quote="Mean Gene" post=310663][quote="41ndone" post=310644][quote="Mean Gene" post=310642][quote="mjmaherjr" post=310603][quote="Adam" post=310601][quote="mjmaherjr" post=310595]It’s 1pm and I’m not even close to over this fucking ref debacle. I’m not opposed to deporting then to Afghanistan or the north sentinel island. Oh and btw I know Monte and he is a great guy and definitely doesn’t have an agenda. I can see both sides of people who were pissed about the last 8 minutes of standing around on offense and no ball movement because I was furious during that time too. But the refs cost us the game IMO. I’m still fucking stunned[/quote]
I legit couldn't sleep last night because I kept waking up nightmare after nightmare.
This is the worst loss I can remember. Not because we lost, but because we 100% deserved to win.
**** the refs. I hope the team uses this as motivation every single remaining game. That is the only way to right the wrong.[/quote]
I had to take 2 ambien last night. One at 1:30 and then I woke up pissed as hell and took another at 4:30
And sorry to the mods for my cursing but this game warrants F bombs
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We are all right there with you Mr. Maher. This was a blatant blown call and a lie to cover it up. Val Ackerman and Stu Jackson are not worth shit as the heads of this league if they can’t come clean and also discipline these refs in some way.[/quote]
vackerman@bigeast.com
sjackson@bigeast.com[/quote]
Just sent this to Val Ackerman and Stu Jackson
Ms. Ackerman and Mr. Jackson
I am writing to you in order to voice my extreme displeasure with the officiating at the end of last nights St. John’s vs Seton Hall game. It is not only that the blatant missed call cost St. John’s the game, but the lie and misrepresentation of the facts by both the referees, Mr. Jackson and yourself is completely and utterly despicable.
watching the play at the end could see that LJ Figueroa did not step out of bounds and executed a clean steal which was directed inbounds right to Mustapha Heron. The referee inadvertently blew the play dead in anticipation of Figueroa going out of bounds which never happened. In fact, he blew the whistle before the play was even completed due to his anticipation of the expected outcome. Then the lie and cover up began.
The explanation was that the clock never started which was false. Even if it didn’t start (hypothetically) , if a whistle is blown inadvertently and neither team possesses the ball , it should be then ruled a jump ball which should have gone to St. John’s as a result of the possession arrow. But, no, the referees not only lie about the clock not starting, they give the ball to Seton Hall. The clock went from 3.9 seconds to 3.5 seconds before the referee prematurely blew the whistle and then after the review they only put 3.1 seconds on the clock which screws St. John’s even more because after Seton Hall scored there was not enough time left for St. John’s to have a chance at a quality shot.
Then, as if that is not bad enough, after Seton Hall inbounds the Ball, Mamukelashvili blatantly walks with the ball and nothing is called and he passes the ball off for the winning shot. The utter incompetence of the referees stole this game from St. John’s last night and the response from the Big East office which I assume came yourself Ms. Ackerman and Mr. Jackson was completely inadequate. Why was the whistle blown to begin with when Figueroa never steps out of bounds? Why were we told the clock never started when that was false? Why was time taken off the clock to begin play again? Why wasn’t St. John’s awarded to the ball due to the fact that Figueroa never stepped out of bounds or because after an inadvertent whistle where neither team possesses the ball it should have been awarded to St. John’s ? I and every other St. John’s fan needs these questions answered along with why traveling wasn’t called on Mamukleshvili.
This was arguably the most important game for the St. John’s Basketball Program in a very long time and to have it stolen from them the way it was is unacceptable. The Big East in my opinion needs St. John’s to be very good on a consistent basis and needs New York City engaged in order to truly compete with the power football conferences in basketball. I This game would have put the St. John’s program on a path towards achieving that goal and to have it ripped away from them in such fashion is a travesty. Also, for your office to put forth such a lame explanation of the aforementioned events at the end of the game is disgusting and does a huge disservice to both the St. John’s Basketball Program and the Big East itself. These referees should be disciplined in some fashion. To review the play for ten minutes and not get it right is complete incompetence.
This game, when all is said and done, could very well cost the St. John’s Basketball Program an NCAA Tournament Bid. If that were to happen, if the NCAA Selection Committee, in the end, decides that St. John’s just falls short of a bid, that they just did not quite do enough, then last nights referees along with you Ms. Ackerman and Mr. Jackson must absorb part of the blame for not righting the wrong that has occurred here. If you want to be seen as big time conference along with the power football conferences then you have to act like one. What occurred last night was reminiscent of something that would occur in a CYO game. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so devastating to the St. John’s Basketball Program and their fan base.[/quote]
Really? It's a basketball game....get over it! I agree that we got screwed, but at the end of the day, its a game. Those refs are human, just like everyone else, and mistakes are going to happen, even ones that are blatantly obvious. Win or lose this game, your life should not have been that much different. How would you like it if the day after you made a mistake at work, you were bombarded by emails with opinions from people that have absolutely nothing to do with your job?[/quote]
Eric, I agree it's not life or death, but I think you're missing the boat here. This was not a regular bad call. It was a human error, followed by 5 full minutes with a replay to get it right, and then an insulting [strike]lie[/strike] explanation by our own conference.
We didn't play well down the stretch, but geez.....could they possibly kick us in the a$$ a little more?[/quote]
If I'm sju, I don't let this issue just die, I want a f'ing explanation and I'd call every day, after a week if no answer, I'd go to the league office and demand a real explanation, and that timing be isn't good enough. If they don't get a real explanation then play the entire season under protest.
They want the issue to be dead in a few weeks, F Them, I wouldn't let it slide no matter if we win the next 3.
I'm dead set on that.
