(POST-GAME) @Seton Hall (Pru Ctr), Sat. Dec. 29, 8:30p, FSN / 570AM

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In a job such as the senior associate commissioner of a college basketball conference a person is going to have no more than one or two opportunities over years to show his or her ability to make the right decision and instill confidence in their decision making.
Stu Jackson's opportunity was Sat and he failed miserably. Claiming the problem was a timing issue was about as far off as one could get and will now put a question mark over any subsequent decision he ever makes. No one expects a do over but you do expect the truth.
Ackerman has to realize that the fans confidence in Jackson as an administrator is nil and his integrity will always be questioned in the few critical decisions he ever has to make.
 
[quote="Mean Gene" post=310782]I received a response from Mike Cragg:


Good morning Gene!

Thank you for sharing your passion and interest in St. John's and for our men's basketball program. In great part, It is your devotion and investment into the school and our athletics program, as to exactly why I wanted to be at St. John's when looking for the right fit as an Athletic Director. I love it and share that passion for wanting it to be great, and for St. John's to be a prominent part of the national fabric of sports in NYC and our country.

With the strongest of convictions, I believe we have that opportunity in front of us!

Last Saturday night did not end with the desired result or the proper outcome after L.J. made a tremendous "winning play" on defense. In the end as administrators, coaches, and fans - that is all we can ask - that the players play hard and with passion ... I believe our staff and players have achieved that success for all 13 games this year.

We have properly and privately communicated our thoughts on the final minute of play to the Big East office - and that, again, is all we can do in a professional, classy, and efficient manner. Those are the standards we will uphold here at St. John's as a proud member of the conference.

All that being said - we must now focus on the immediacy of facing a Top 20 team in our home arena tomorrow night! Coach Mullin did that exact thing in the locker room after the game to the team - turning their attention immediately to the very fact of moving on to the "next play".

Most importantly, there is no doubt we need you and many, many others with us in the building - not only tomorrow night - but throughout the season as many times as possible. That is the very first step in making sure we seize upon these "moments" for a positive outcome and helping our program back to achieving successes at the highest levels on a consistent basis.

Again - appreciate your note and hope to meet you soon!

Go St. John's!

Mike


Mike Cragg
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Great that the AD responded. Class move. He knows exactly what happened when he mentions" winning play."
 
[quote="Enright" post=310818]In a job such as the senior associate commissioner of a college basketball conference a person is going to have no more than one or two opportunities over years to show his or her ability to make the right decision and instill confidence in their decision making.
Stu Jackson's opportunity was Sat and he failed miserably. Claiming the problem was a timing issue was about as far off as one could get and will now put a question mark over any subsequent decision he ever makes. No one expects a do over but you do expect the truth.
Ackerman has to realize that the fans confidence in Jackson as an administrator is nil and his integrity will always be questioned in the few critical decisions he ever has to make.[/quote]

Jackson's only way out of this is to admit that he rushed to the defense of the officials without taking the required time to review this. He and John Cahill - supervisory official of big east refs - should grill their two refs today and bring the book down on them for lying about the whistle. A suspension or dismissal of the two refs draws the attention of the national media that this is a tainted win on Hall's record and a false loss on the Johnny side.
 
[quote="Enright" post=310818]In a job such as the senior associate commissioner of a college basketball conference a person is going to have no more than one or two opportunities over years to show his or her ability to make the right decision and instill confidence in their decision making.
Stu Jackson's opportunity was Sat and he failed miserably. Claiming the problem was a timing issue was about as far off as one could get and will now put a question mark over any subsequent decision he ever makes. No one expects a do over but you do expect the truth.
Ackerman has to realize that the fans confidence in Jackson as an administrator is nil and his integrity will always be questioned in the few critical decisions he ever has to make.[/quote]

Ackerman is in that boat with Jackson as far as I am concerned.
 
[quote="OLV72" post=310825][quote="Enright" post=310818]In a job such as the senior associate commissioner of a college basketball conference a person is going to have no more than one or two opportunities over years to show his or her ability to make the right decision and instill confidence in their decision making.
Stu Jackson's opportunity was Sat and he failed miserably. Claiming the problem was a timing issue was about as far off as one could get and will now put a question mark over any subsequent decision he ever makes. No one expects a do over but you do expect the truth.
Ackerman has to realize that the fans confidence in Jackson as an administrator is nil and his integrity will always be questioned in the few critical decisions he ever has to make.[/quote]

Jackson's only way out of this is to admit that he rushed to the defense of the officials without taking the required time to review this. He and John Cahill - supervisory official of big east refs - should grill their two refs today and bring the book down on them for lying about the whistle. A suspension or dismissal of the two refs draws the attention of the national media that this is a tainted win on Hall's record and a false loss on the Johnny side.[/quote]

Not sure anyone will remember but coming off a rookie of the year and all star first two seasons Mark Jackson was benched for a decrepit Mo Cheeks his 3rd year in NBA by new head coach Stu Jackson. Stu Jackson blows !
 
[quote="stjohnnie75" post=310789][quote="otis" post=310783][quote="stjohnnie75" post=310781]
Since time did run off the clock there was a play and I believe the substitution was legal.[/quote]

OK .... now I am more confused.

I thought the reason the misguided referee blew his whistle was because the clock had not started.

If the knucklehead ref did not blow his whistle for the clock then why did he blow it ?[/quote]

No one knows that answer.

The ref that blew the whistle should not have even been watching the clock since the play was live two feet away from him.

If he was watching the clock that would explain why he missed the great play from LJ.[/quote]

He clearly blew the whistle while looking at Figueroa and not the clock. Every replay on tv was to examine where LG's feet were except for the morons officiating.
 
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When a game is decided by a questionable call at the end it hurts, of course. However if we look past that it was overly apparent that we were gassed during the final ten minutes.

IMHO we need to go deeper onto the bench especially when we have a decent lead.

I’m sure our guys have learned from this.
 
[quote="redmen1969" post=310866]When a game is decided by a questionable call at the end it hurts, of course. However if we look past that it was overly apparent that we were gassed during the final ten minutes.

IMHO we need to go deeper onto the bench especially when we have a decent lead.

I’m sure our guys have learned from this.[/quote]

Don't assume our guys learned anything from the outcome. Mullin and St. Jean, the two guys that call the shots during the game, saw Greg Williams outperform Trimble yet played Trimble more in the second half closing minutes and banished Mikey Dixon to the bench. The only other viable sub was our 6'9 freshman center who could have played 5 minutes to rest Clark but obviously the staff sees him as a last resort which presumes both he and Marcellus will become sacrificial lambs if the staff is able to recruit over them.
 
[quote="otis" post=310783][quote="stjohnnie75" post=310781]
Since time did run off the clock there was a play and I believe the substitution was legal.[/quote]

OK .... now I am more confused.

I thought the reason the misguided referee blew his whistle was because the clock had not started.

If the knucklehead ref did not blow his whistle for the clock then why did he blow it ?[/quote]

Otis the GD f'ing refs LIEEEEEEEEEE
It went from 3.9 to 3.5 before they looked at it. I'm not blind, I know what I seen.
Then the retards look at it, and decide to bring it down to 3.1.
F these pos scums
 
72 said;
“He clearly blew the whistle while looking at Figueroa and not the clock. Every replay on tv was to examine where LG's feet were except for the morons officiating.”

72 hit it on head. Video completely negates the BS from “Mission Control’ re ref noticing clock not starting. Statement from BE insulting to your intelligence.
 
Luckily the ncaa tournament committee are human, and maybe they look at this one with a major asterisk when evaluating us at the end of the year
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=310953]Luckily the ncaa tournament committee are human, and maybe they look at this one with a major asterisk when evaluating us at the end of the year[/quote]

Seth Davis wrote how Seton Hall “took care of business” and how SJU wasn’t ready for the Big East grind. I wouldn’t expect much from any national body who will think this was nothing more than a normal bad call.
 
Jack Williams wrote: I forsee this thread going down the wrong path. Everyone just remember who the real enemy is.. the big east and their trashy referees. Kevin Willard and his f’n shiny bald head. Our guys for missing 1 and 1s. It’s all shitty. Let’s turn the page on this one with the new year, and beat Marquette

Sorry, Jack Kevin Willard is not the enemy here. He's done a great job with the Hall and he and Mullin share mutual respect. He didn't make that horrendous call. Let's beat Marquette and put the blame where it is due.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=310962]Jack Williams wrote: I forsee this thread going down the wrong path. Everyone just remember who the real enemy is.. the big east and their trashy referees. Kevin Willard and his f’n shiny bald head. Our guys for missing 1 and 1s. It’s all shitty. Let’s turn the page on this one with the new year, and beat Marquette

Sorry, Jack Kevin Willard is not the enemy here. He's done a great job with the Hall and he and Mullin share mutual respect. He didn't make that horrendous call. Let's beat Marquette and put the blame where it is due.[/quote]

I know that. I was half joking. I posted this earlier in this thread

“Seeing Willard celebrate the winner made me cringe. But I have to respect the guy. A lot of people thought he wasn’t gonna succeed at SH.

He also said we are the best team they faced all year”
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=310962]Jack Williams wrote: I forsee this thread going down the wrong path. Everyone just remember who the real enemy is.. the big east and their trashy referees. Kevin Willard and his f’n shiny bald head. Our guys for missing 1 and 1s. It’s all shitty. Let’s turn the page on this one with the new year, and beat Marquette

Sorry, Jack Kevin Willard is not the enemy here. He's done a great job with the Hall and he and Mullin share mutual respect. He didn't make that horrendous call. Let's beat Marquette and put the blame where it is due.[/quote]

Great point NCJ. It's easy in the heat of the game to detest everything about the other guys, including the opposing coach's 'shiny bald head'!
And the circumstances here make it mighty difficult to be civil, but we should do that.
Let's root hard and clean for the team to beat Marquette tomorrow and put this nightmare behind us.
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=310964][quote="NCJohnnie" post=310962]Jack Williams wrote: I forsee this thread going down the wrong path. Everyone just remember who the real enemy is.. the big east and their trashy referees. Kevin Willard and his f’n shiny bald head. Our guys for missing 1 and 1s. It’s all shitty. Let’s turn the page on this one with the new year, and beat Marquette

Sorry, Jack Kevin Willard is not the enemy here. He's done a great job with the Hall and he and Mullin share mutual respect. He didn't make that horrendous call. Let's beat Marquette and put the blame where it is due.[/quote]

I know that. I was half joking. I posted this earlier in this thread

“Seeing Willard celebrate the winner made me cringe. But I have to respect the guy. A lot of people thought he wasn’t gonna succeed at SH.

He also said we are the best team they faced all year”[/quote]

Cool thing to say.
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=310964][quote="NCJohnnie" post=310962]Jack Williams wrote: I forsee this thread going down the wrong path. Everyone just remember who the real enemy is.. the big east and their trashy referees. Kevin Willard and his f’n shiny bald head. Our guys for missing 1 and 1s. It’s all shitty. Let’s turn the page on this one with the new year, and beat Marquette

Sorry, Jack Kevin Willard is not the enemy here. He's done a great job with the Hall and he and Mullin share mutual respect. He didn't make that horrendous call. Let's beat Marquette and put the blame where it is due.[/quote]

I know that. I was half joking. I posted this earlier in this thread

“Seeing Willard celebrate the winner made me cringe. But I have to respect the guy. A lot of people thought he wasn’t gonna succeed at SH.

He also said we are the best team they faced all year”[/quote]
Always speaks well of us. I think he has done a very good job.
 
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