(POST GAME) Fordham, Sun., Dec. 5, 7p, FS-1

[monte]

Mathis is a former 4-star player and started on Rutgers which was a good Big 10 team the last couple years, they would have made the tournament the year tourney was cancelled and they made it last year, he started 36 games during that time.  And Big 10 has been considered better than Big East.

While I like Mathis as a player and especially for CMA's style if I remember correctly he started for Rutgers only for the better part of the first half of the season last year and was then moved to the bench which may be why he transferred here.

Mathis was 7th on Rutgers in MPG last season, he's 3rd on our team. No doubt he came he to start and play more minutes. 

 

[beast of the east]

Mathis graduated Rutgers. is a great student and applied to our PA program and decided not to play.

He was ralready accepted and egistered here when he changed his mind and decided to use his final year of eligibility

He did not come here for minutes, he came here for a medical career.

 

[RedStormNC]

Mathis graduated Rutgers. is a great student and applied to our PA program and decided not to play.

He was ralready accepted and egistered here when he changed his mind and decided to use his final year of eligibility

He did not come here for minutes, he came here for a medical career.

Think you're talking about Coburn from Hofstra

 

[mjmaherjr]

Mathis graduated Rutgers. is a great student and applied to our PA program and decided not to play.

He was ralready accepted and egistered here when he changed his mind and decided to use his final year of eligibility

He did not come here for minutes, he came here for a medical career.

Think you're talking about Coburn from Hofstra

the heat from Carnesseca got Beast mixed up

 

[L J S A]

I think one of the posters here who follows Rutgers said that Mathis was averaging 14 ppg before he went to the bench. If we can start to get close to that vs. weaker competition, it'll go a long way toward ensuring that we finish the OOC schedule the way many were projecting us to, and not be too stressed doing it.

Would expect him to drop back down to who he really is by BE play, but would be nice to see something from him until then.

 

[ras]

Mathis isn’t our problem. He is a big East player. We have to see the upperclassmen, Smith ,Coburn, Soriano step up and hope the Fordham game was a preview of things to come from Nyiwe. I give up on Wheeler unless sitting on the pine puts a fire in his arse. Verdict still out on Pinzon, just back from injury. Stanley is going to take time to develop.
Have to like what we’re seeing from Wusu and Posh the ultimate “ dogs”
just hope Posh stays healthy.

 

[Montana7]

They played their best game since the iu game, hopefully they keep it up vs. Monmouth.

 

[prjohnnies]

Mathis has been fine, and if he doesn't get tossed from the IU game I think we beat them.

We need more from some combination of Smith, Coburn, Soriano and Wheeler.  All of those guys are supposed to contribute.  Give them time.  If even 2 are playing well and making positive contributions in a given game, that makes everything looks so much better.

 

[MakingPlays]

Mathis is a former 4-star player and started on Rutgers which was a good Big 10 team the last couple years, they would have made the tournament the year tourney was cancelled and they made it last year, he started 36 games during that time.  And Big 10 has been considered better than Big East.

While I like Mathis as a player and especially for CMA's style if I remember correctly he started for Rutgers only for the better part of the first half of the season last year and was then moved to the bench which may be why he transferred here.

He started half of last year and most of the games the year before that.  My whole point was to Monte's comments that he couldn't start on a good BE team.  He started games on 2 good Rutgers tournament teams in the Big 10.  The Big 10 was better than the Big East, it's actually been the best BBall conference the past 2 years, so if he can start on a tournament team in the Big 10 how would he then not be considered starting caliber in a lesser league?   That makes no sense.  And also FYI, looks Rutgers is missing him.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I think one of the posters here who follows Rutgers said that Mathis was averaging 14 ppg before he went to the bench. If we can start to get close to that vs. weaker competition, it'll go a long way toward ensuring that we finish the OOC schedule the way many were projecting us to, and not be too stressed doing it.

Would expect him to drop back down to who he really is by BE play, but would be nice to see something from him until then.

I mean this complimentary because he’s been really good and exceeded my expectations but I don’t think we could expect anything more from him. What we have seen is the best we could ask for IMO. His effective FG % is 60% right now. His previous best for a season was 43%. Hope he proves me wrong.

 

[P1NSTR1PEZ]

I have to be living in a bizzaro world reading some of the comments in here tonight. You guys are unreal. After the Kansas game it was all doom and gloom, people calling for Mike Anderson's job like morons. 

Sunday you get the best 40 minutes from the team so far, career high performance from Posh, Wusu double double, Niywe shines, Julian's "bad" game is 16 and 8, and you win by a comfortable double digits and it's still bitching and moaning. They did their job and then some tonight. They improved on the defense, played with fire right out of the gate and never let the game get in jeopardy...that's what you're supposed to do vs Fordham. 

Montez Mathis has been by far the best transfer, fits into this system perfectly and has been a super add. This guy does everything you could possibly want....what in the world are some of you expecting? He's averaging 11 pts and 4 rebs per game almost 2 assts, 1.5 steals per game, he's the second best defender on the team, has size, an endless motor, is the perfect compliment to Posh, has scored in double figures in 4 of the last 5 games with a 20 pt performance in there...he's great. Get a grip.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I have to be living in a bizzaro world reading some of the comments in here tonight. You guys are unreal. After the Kansas game it was all doom and gloom, people calling for Mike Anderson's job like morons. 

Sunday you get the best 40 minutes from the team so far, career high performance from Posh, Wusu double double, Niywe shines, Julian's "bad" game is 16 and 8, and you win by a comfortable double digits and it's still bitching and moaning. They did their job and then some tonight. They improved on the defense, played with fire right out of the gate and never let the game get in jeopardy...that's what you're supposed to do vs Fordham. 

Montez Mathis has been by far the best transfer, fits into this system perfectly and has been a super add. This guy does everything you could possibly want....what in the world are some of you expecting? He's averaging 11 pts and 4 rebs per game almost 2 assts, 1.5 steals per game, he's the second best defender on the team, has size, an endless motor, is the perfect compliment to Posh, has scored in double figures in 4 of the last 5 games with a 20 pt performance in there...he's great. Get a grip.

It’s Tuesday morning and you think the game was tonight. Bizzaro world is right

Mathis has been great. Has anyone said he’s played bad?

 

[MBaldi]

This might not be a popular opinion, but I still have hope that Coburn will turn things around — and hope that he has a real opportunity to do so.  I know all of the arguments, e.g., SJU is a big step-up from Hofstra. Still, Champs has noted that he’s the best shooter on the team. He has size.  And, he was the best player on the court for large parts of the game against St. Francis. The problem is that a key component of a shooter’s game is confidence, including confidence to continue shooting when the first few shots don’t go down — that you won’t be yanked for taking those shots.  I really think he could be the scorer and leader that the bench needs.  

 

[monte]

I have to be living in a bizzaro world reading some of the comments in here tonight. You guys are unreal. After the Kansas game it was all doom and gloom, people calling for Mike Anderson's job like morons. 

Sunday you get the best 40 minutes from the team so far, career high performance from Posh, Wusu double double, Niywe shines, Julian's "bad" game is 16 and 8, and you win by a comfortable double digits and it's still bitching and moaning. They did their job and then some tonight. They improved on the defense, played with fire right out of the gate and never let the game get in jeopardy...that's what you're supposed to do vs Fordham. 

Montez Mathis has been by far the best transfer, fits into this system perfectly and has been a super add. This guy does everything you could possibly want....what in the world are some of you expecting? He's averaging 11 pts and 4 rebs per game almost 2 assts, 1.5 steals per game, he's the second best defender on the team, has size, an endless motor, is the perfect compliment to Posh, has scored in double figures in 4 of the last 5 games with a 20 pt performance in there...he's great. Get a grip.

It’s Tuesday morning and you think the game was tonight. Bizzaro world is right

Mathis has been great. Has anyone said he’s played bad?

I said I felt Mathis should be coming off the bench on a very good Big East team, just like he was relegated too on Rutgers. I never said he sucked, I never said he hasn't played well(mostly against cupcakes), I never said he hasn't played hard. And a few of the jerk offs on the  board (that's not a personal attack, that's general one) took exception to that, citing their usual selective stats in a weak attempt to bolster their arguments. 

 

[beast of the east]

Mathis graduated Rutgers. is a great student and applied to our PA program and decided not to play.

He was ralready accepted and egistered here when he changed his mind and decided to use his final year of eligibility

He did not come here for minutes, he came here for a medical career.

Think you're talking about Coburn from Hofstra

the heat from Carnesseca got Beast mixed up

No wonder my Johnny Coburn Christmas album sucks, and I can't find any James Mathis tough guy movies.

 

[beast of the east]

I think one of the posters here who follows Rutgers said that Mathis was averaging 14 ppg before he went to the bench. If we can start to get close to that vs. weaker competition, it'll go a long way toward ensuring that we finish the OOC schedule the way many were projecting us to, and not be too stressed doing it.

Would expect him to drop back down to who he really is by BE play, but would be nice to see something from him until then.

I mean this complimentary because he’s been really good and exceeded my expectations but I don’t think we could expect anything more from him. What we have seen is the best we could ask for IMO. His effective FG % is 60% right now. His previous best for a season was 43%. Hope he proves me wrong.

He has been the beneficiary of a lot of transition easy baskets and nice looks.   I think most players in top conferences have two sets of stats - the lower OOC games, and how they perform vs. top competition, which is reasonable.   It looks pretty certain that if he stays healthy and his minutes stay high, he will be one of our top 3 scorers.   

 

[MakingPlays]

I have to be living in a bizzaro world reading some of the comments in here tonight. You guys are unreal. After the Kansas game it was all doom and gloom, people calling for Mike Anderson's job like morons. 

Sunday you get the best 40 minutes from the team so far, career high performance from Posh, Wusu double double, Niywe shines, Julian's "bad" game is 16 and 8, and you win by a comfortable double digits and it's still bitching and moaning. They did their job and then some tonight. They improved on the defense, played with fire right out of the gate and never let the game get in jeopardy...that's what you're supposed to do vs Fordham. 

Montez Mathis has been by far the best transfer, fits into this system perfectly and has been a super add. This guy does everything you could possibly want....what in the world are some of you expecting? He's averaging 11 pts and 4 rebs per game almost 2 assts, 1.5 steals per game, he's the second best defender on the team, has size, an endless motor, is the perfect compliment to Posh, has scored in double figures in 4 of the last 5 games with a 20 pt performance in there...he's great. Get a grip.

It’s Tuesday morning and you think the game was tonight. Bizzaro world is right

Mathis has been great. Has anyone said he’s played bad?

I said I felt Mathis should be coming off the bench on a very good Big East team, just like he was relegated too on Rutgers. I never said he sucked, I never said he hasn't played well(mostly against cupcakes), I never said he hasn't played hard. And a few of the jerk offs on the  board (that's not a personal attack, that's general one) took exception to that, citing their usual selective stats in a weak attempt to bolster their arguments. 

I stated a fact, which is he started on 2 tournament Big 10 teams, that's literally all I said.  And as usual, if someone points out facts that goes against what you believe, you go fully grumpy old man at Thanksgiving when the food isn't served on time and start name calling and rambling.  It's a freakin discussion board, you discuss and debate,  that's the whole point of a discussion board. If you want to just post something and everyone agrees with you go on Facebook make a post and disable comments. And also you're welcome to utilize the ignore feature on here, I promise I won't miss your "insightful" commentary on here./media/kunena/emoticons/tongue.png

 

[Amaseinyourface]

I think one of the posters here who follows Rutgers said that Mathis was averaging 14 ppg before he went to the bench. If we can start to get close to that vs. weaker competition, it'll go a long way toward ensuring that we finish the OOC schedule the way many were projecting us to, and not be too stressed doing it.

Would expect him to drop back down to who he really is by BE play, but would be nice to see something from him until then.

I mean this complimentary because he’s been really good and exceeded my expectations but I don’t think we could expect anything more from him. What we have seen is the best we could ask for IMO. His effective FG % is 60% right now. His previous best for a season was 43%. Hope he proves me wrong.

He has been the beneficiary of a lot of transition easy baskets and nice looks.   I think most players in top conferences have two sets of stats - the lower OOC games, and how they perform vs. top competition, which is reasonable.   It looks pretty certain that if he stays healthy and his minutes stay high, he will be one of our top 3 scorers.   

I think id take that bet. Like you pointed out, don’t see his transition baskets and easy looks to be as plentiful once the competition gears up. Smith shooting terribly from deep gives me hope he can make up for the inevitable dip from Mathis. I say inevitable because it’s 60%!

 

[MakingPlays]

This might not be a popular opinion, but I still have hope that Coburn will turn things around — and hope that he has a real opportunity to do so.  I know all of the arguments, e.g., SJU is a big step-up from Hofstra. Still, Champs has noted that he’s the best shooter on the team. He has size.  And, he was the best player on the court for large parts of the game against St. Francis. The problem is that a key component of a shooter’s game is confidence, including confidence to continue shooting when the first few shots don’t go down — that you won’t be yanked for taking those shots.  I really think he could be the scorer and leader that the bench needs.  

I think Coburn's main issue is his ball handling.  I dare say it's almost as bad as Vince Cole.  At the high major level if you're ball handling is bad at the guard position it's really hard to create a shot for yourself and scouting report is out on him that he's a shooter, so teams are covering him well and he doesn't have the ability to create space for himself like Champ does when he's covered on the 3 point line.

Hopefully he can figure it out, team really needs his shooting right now.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Not for nothing but in terms of Facts mathis played on one NCAA tourney team. And the one he was on moved him to the bench halfway through the season. Those are facts.