Possible Coaching Candidates

Haven’t posted much lately because I’m usually more optimistic and since there is not much to be optimistic about these days and aside from a joke, sports investment opinion and some medical advice I don’t have much to offer here right now. Lol. That said. If no pitino sign me up for speedy. One player does not a team make. So speedy has done a nice job with his team over at Hofstra and he hasn’t been out of the league all that long so he is relevant with these kids. This is the kind of coach we can ride for a long time if all goes well which I think would.
 
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RedStormRising said:
Assuming the decision is made (I have no reason to doubt your intel), optically aren’t you not making the official statement until you at least have a thumbs up from the new coach.

I’m not saying they need a memorandum of understanding or anything, but if I’m Cragg and my name rightly or wrongly is associated with the last search, I wait until I have some one locked in and announce that he was our number one choice.

Gosh maybe I just want to trust the process so much that I’m grasping at straws just for signs that any process is in place.
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No, you fire your coach immediately to get a head start on the carousel. Keeping him employed longer than he needs to be once the season ends serves no purpose
 
ronm said:
If they are serious about cutting ties with CMA they should already know who they want and hopefully well into the negotiations on a contract. If that is the case, they should be able to pull the trigger on the new hire as soon as ties are cut with CMA.
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Why? So you are saying every school that decides to dismiss a coach should have someone ready to hire in waiting?

Huh?

That is not the case. I am sure they have a list of people they have interest in but no I do not and would not expect someone to be announced almost as soon as they dismiss Anderson. Anderson being let go is not contingent on hiring someone immediately nor should it be.

I don't understand that proposition.
 
fordham96 said:
Why? So you are saying every school that decides to dismiss a coach should have someone ready to hire in waiting?

Huh?

That is not the case. I am sure they have a list of people they have interest in but no I do not and would not expect someone to be announced almost as soon as they dismiss Anderson. Anderson being let go is not contingent on hiring someone immediately nor should it be.

I don't understand that proposition.
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How did waiting work out when Mullin left? I sure do not want to see a repeat of that process. Coaches are NOT lining up for the SJU job.
 
ronm said:
How did waiting work out when Mullin left? I sure do not want to see a repeat of that process. Coaches are NOT lining up for the SJU job.
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Mullin resigned pretty much after the carousel was over without giving Cragg much notice. These two situations are not comparable at all.

What do you gain by keeping Anderson employed until you have the new coach locked in?
 
ronm said:
If they are serious about cutting ties with CMA they should already know who they want and hopefully well into the negotiations on a contract. If that is the case, they should be able to pull the trigger on the new hire as soon as ties are cut with CMA
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Presumably, several of the head coaching candidates SJU has in mind will be playing in the NCAA Tourney or the NIT. Not one of those candidates will commit to anything until the postseason is over.
 
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Ray Morgan said:
If the bidding for Pitino comes down to St. John's and Georgetown, who is likely to win the bidding war? Ewing makes 4 million. CMA about 2.5. Which school is more flush with cash? Which is willing and able to spend more? Then add a few well off programs to the bidding. Where does SJU stand then? Maybe some people want to believe that Pitino is loaded and it's not about the money. That is a 500 to 1 shot. It's almost always about the money. It's like those murder mystery late night tv shows where the wife is murdered or disappears. It's always the husband. Maybe once in a blue moon it wasn't, but I haven't seen one that ends that way. There have been a few athletes to take less I suppose for a situation they really wanted, and maybe a few coaches too. But it's not likely to happen.
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Pitino is very likely to have multiple suitors. I think Georgetown will be the highest profile of them.

Last year Rick was gunning for a higher profile job and was given a quick sniff from Maryland before they settled on their top target (Willard). Rumor and it’s my belief that he did turn down URI.

An argument could be made that Pitino was playing three D chess and waiting for the IARP process to conclude to throw his hat in the ring for the majors.

More likely none of the majors OSU, ND, Louisville (haha should they all open up) will seriously consider him. This of course leaves the Gtowns and the St. John’s of the would. A coach with baggage seems more palatable to a broken program than to a blue blood.

I have no doubt that if any football school offers him a contract he’d pack his seersucker suit and pull a Brian Kelly immediately. He’d get paid more and the road to his 4th team to the final four would be a lot easier.

I think it’s more likely Gtown as well as UCF (which I think is probably where he ends up) will pursue, we will at least inquire and whatever A-10 vacancies come up will give him a call to gauge interest.
 
MugCostanza said:
Mullin resigned pretty much after the carousel was over without giving Cragg much notice. These two situations are not comparable at all.

What do you gain by keeping Anderson employed until you have the new coach locked in?
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My point is that they should be close to having the new coach locked in if they are certain they are letting CMA go. Hopefully it is Pitino and there is no reason they cannot have him locked in before season's end. Of course, this is making the very big assumptions that he is interested in the job and that they are willing to spend the money to buy him out AND pay Pitino.
 
ronm said:
My point is that they should be close to having the new coach locked in if they are certain they are letting CMA go. Hopefully it is Pitino and there is no reason they cannot have him locked in before season's end. Of course, this is making the very big assumptions that he is interested in the job and that they are willing to spend the money to buy him out AND pay Pitino.
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But if Pitino isn't interested and/or members of the board won't let it happen and an actual search and interviews must be conducted then there's no point in keeping Anderson employed throughout that process
 
fordham96 said:
Why? So you are saying every school that decides to dismiss a coach should have someone ready to hire in waiting?

Huh?

That is not the case. I am sure they have a list of people they have interest in but no I do not and would not expect someone to be announced almost as soon as they dismiss Anderson. Anderson being let go is not contingent on hiring someone immediately nor should it be.

I don't understand that proposition.
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Not at all. Most schools can afford to dismiss their coach, hire a search committee, identify 4 targets and offer them a market wage.

St. John’s has not been able to do that. Our last search effort looked panicked to put it mildly.

A repeat of multiple rejections is just going St. John’s, an already challenging job, look like too much brain damage because we have an admin doing their best keystone cop impression.

It doesn’t seem too much to ask (or a bad idea) to have a list of potential candidates and someone to have reached out before the opening was announced to gauge interest and $ needed.

Winning the press conference is important for booster and fan engagement. Nothing like going up to the podium and saying ‘I’m please to present our new coach and 5th choice MA’
 
ronm said:
If they are serious about cutting ties with CMA they should already know who they want and hopefully well into the negotiations on a contract. If that is the case, they should be able to pull the trigger on the new hire as soon as ties are cut with CMA.
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Ronm, thank you. I was trying to express something like this. You did in 2 sentences what I couldn’t do in 3 paragraphs.
 
Can someone fill me on in Speedy, and his candidacy? I admittedly don't know much, aside from I know he starred at Hofstra, played in the NBA, paid his dues as an assistant, and now has had success at his alma mater. I also read his sister played basketball at St. John's.

I guess I'm always a bit leery about former NBA players who are already rich, and the hunger they might have to do what it takes to succeed with recruiting. Maybe that's partially due to what happened with Mullin
 
Eric said:
Haven’t posted much lately because I’m usually more optimistic and since there is not much to be optimistic about these days and aside from a joke, sports investment opinion and some medical advice I don’t have much to offer here right now. Lol. That said. If no pitino sign me up for speedy. One player does not a team make. So speedy has done a nice job with his team over at Hofstra and he hasn’t been out of the league all that long so he is relevant with these kids. This is the kind of coach we can ride for a long time if all goes well which I think would.
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Unfortunately speedy just signed an extension. I like to think maybe this board helped him get paid 😉. I might not speak for everyone but I’ll never turn down a joke or free medical advice.
 
RedStormRising said:
Unfortunately speedy just signed an extension. I like to think maybe this board helped him get paid 😉. I might not speak for everyone but I’ll never turn down a joke or free medical advice.
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You got it. I’ll never shy away from any medical advice as long as it’s something I know something about.
I’ll throw a few more jokes around here and there as well lol.

As for speedy. Saw that about the extension. But I’m hoping the new info fordham posted about him rings true if and when pitino doesn’t happen.
 
room112 said:
I also read his sister played basketball at St. John's.
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He also had another sister who played for Hofstra as well back in the early 2000’s. She actually volunteered in the PT dept with me at the hospital I work at while she was going and playing at Hofstra. I caught a few of her games. For a shorter player From what I remember played some pretty good defense and scored some as well.
 
Eric said:
He also had another sister who played for Hofstra as well back in the early 2000’s. She actually volunteered in the PT dept with me at the hospital I work at while she was going and playing at Hofstra. I caught a few of her games. For a shorter player From what I remember played some pretty good defense and scored some as well.
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how many of her games did you bet on ?
 
Again I have been touting him already but VCU won the outright A-10 title last night.

Rhoades has been at VCU for 6 years, his last 5 years he has won the A-10 twice, finished second twice, made 2 NCAA's and an NIT and this year will be at a minimum an NIT.
 
fordham96 said:
Again I have been touting him already but VCU won the outright A-10 title last night.

Rhoades has been at VCU for 6 years, his last 5 years he has won the A-10 twice, finished second twice, made 2 NCAA's and an NIT and this year will be at a minimum an NIT.
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Solid, no doubt but to be fair that isn't exactly a superb resume based on what VCU was when he took over.
 
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