SJUWillRockNYC
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Kran, sometimes you do what's in your heart, be your own person, and not agree with them, if that means they kick me off then so be it, but I'll never be a follower and agree just to agree.
Possible Coaching Candidates
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MugCostanza
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An updated list from my POV with some of my personal thoughts on each. Obviously working off the assumption Pitino is not in play which will always be baffling to me. But anyway...
Unemployed/Potentially will be unemployed
Chris Mack - I know many don't want to go down the fired from their last job road again but I still think Mack will be a strong choice. He'll land somewhere soon and no clue if he'd be interested in this job or not.
Chris Holtmann - 4-6 weeks ago it seemed like there was no chance he'd be let go but now it seems like there's no way he'd be able to keep his job. He does have a big recruiting class coming in next year but not sure if that will save him. Don't know if he'd have any interest if he were to be let go, though I think he'd be a strong choice.
Mike Brey - I was fairly lukewarm on him a month or so ago but now am totally cooled off. He's clearly lost a step or two and his ceiling here would be pretty low. Hope he's not a real option.
Employed at power conference schools
Mike Boynton - I don't think he's a realistic option even if Oklahoma State stumbles down the stretch and misses the tourney. Hasn't lived in NYC in a quarter century and probably unlikely to have real interest in this job regardless.
Bobby Hurley - He could be in the potentially unemployed category above. Obviously wonder if the school would go down this road again after what happened last time but Hurley will likely be looking to skip town on ASU now before he gets the boot. He'd be a frustratingly mediocre coach here like he's been at ASU. Hope he's nowhere near the top of the list for this go around.
Up and Comers
Matt Langel - Would think he's atop the list of up and comers that would be realistic options here. I don't think guys like Kelsey or May would consider this job with the other offers they'll be receiving soon. My main reservation with him is that he's not defensive minded at all and not sure that style would work with a step up. Fran McCaffery is the closest thing to a somewhat successful high major offense only coach but he's struggled in March despite having a couple NPOY candidates.
Speedy Claxton - Only two years on the job at his alma mater so not a whole lot of data to go by but he's clearly been successful there so far. No clue if he'd leave his alma mater for our job especially so quickly. I don't see him being a legit candidate.
Robert Jones - Queens guy has continued the success Norfolk State has enjoyed in what is by far the best job in the MEAC. Too big of a jump from MEAC to Big East IMO.
Jared Grasso - Another offense first, no defense coach has done a nice job at Bryant but currently sitting at 7-6 this year despite having the most talent in that conference. Has never had to recruit against power conference schools even as an Assistant and don't think he can compete with Big East coaches if the talent level is similar.
Names mentioned that are less likely to coach here than John Wooden's corpse
Jay Wright, John Calipari, K, Beard, Donovan, Woj (Cragg can't be this stupid)
Unemployed/Potentially will be unemployed
Chris Mack - I know many don't want to go down the fired from their last job road again but I still think Mack will be a strong choice. He'll land somewhere soon and no clue if he'd be interested in this job or not.
Chris Holtmann - 4-6 weeks ago it seemed like there was no chance he'd be let go but now it seems like there's no way he'd be able to keep his job. He does have a big recruiting class coming in next year but not sure if that will save him. Don't know if he'd have any interest if he were to be let go, though I think he'd be a strong choice.
Mike Brey - I was fairly lukewarm on him a month or so ago but now am totally cooled off. He's clearly lost a step or two and his ceiling here would be pretty low. Hope he's not a real option.
Employed at power conference schools
Mike Boynton - I don't think he's a realistic option even if Oklahoma State stumbles down the stretch and misses the tourney. Hasn't lived in NYC in a quarter century and probably unlikely to have real interest in this job regardless.
Bobby Hurley - He could be in the potentially unemployed category above. Obviously wonder if the school would go down this road again after what happened last time but Hurley will likely be looking to skip town on ASU now before he gets the boot. He'd be a frustratingly mediocre coach here like he's been at ASU. Hope he's nowhere near the top of the list for this go around.
Up and Comers
Matt Langel - Would think he's atop the list of up and comers that would be realistic options here. I don't think guys like Kelsey or May would consider this job with the other offers they'll be receiving soon. My main reservation with him is that he's not defensive minded at all and not sure that style would work with a step up. Fran McCaffery is the closest thing to a somewhat successful high major offense only coach but he's struggled in March despite having a couple NPOY candidates.
Speedy Claxton - Only two years on the job at his alma mater so not a whole lot of data to go by but he's clearly been successful there so far. No clue if he'd leave his alma mater for our job especially so quickly. I don't see him being a legit candidate.
Robert Jones - Queens guy has continued the success Norfolk State has enjoyed in what is by far the best job in the MEAC. Too big of a jump from MEAC to Big East IMO.
Jared Grasso - Another offense first, no defense coach has done a nice job at Bryant but currently sitting at 7-6 this year despite having the most talent in that conference. Has never had to recruit against power conference schools even as an Assistant and don't think he can compete with Big East coaches if the talent level is similar.
Names mentioned that are less likely to coach here than John Wooden's corpse
Jay Wright, John Calipari, K, Beard, Donovan, Woj (Cragg can't be this stupid)
As much as I want to win and Anderson go, hard pass on beard. He strangled his fiancé and bit her. She recanted because he probably bought her flowers and knew if they did get married he would be out of a job . Sorry but got to pass here. Fiancé backtracked to cover for her fiancé. And according to reports there were physical bruises on her. Sorry. Rather keep Anderson if there was a choice bad coach but never hurt a woman.
MugCostanza
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Similar to Anderson when he was hired, I don't think McCasland has ever heard of St. John's or can find Queens on a map. He's a much better coach than Anderson but he's going to land a B12 job sooner rather than later.
Becker is another guy that inherited a strong program and has never had to recruit against power conference schools as an Assistant or a Head Coach.
AAR another guy that's a good coach but probably couldn't point out Queens on a map.
May will land at an SEC or ACC school that is far more attractive than SJU.
He doesn’t run a tight ship and with the problems this team has had with lack of discipline and bad behavior, is not what we need.
Valid points, but I am not sure unfamiliarity is a disqualifying handicap. Get the right assistant coaches, visit city high schools, connect with local AAU programs, and it doesn't matter much.
I do agree that none of these guys would be easy to land, but much easier than some of the pipe dreams we discuss (i.e. Billy Donovan, Chris Mack, Mike Brey, Chris Holtman, Chris Beard, etc). I just hope these four, and others like them, are considered in the process.
MugCostanza
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I don't think it's disqualifying as much as it's just that they won't consider it. If McCasland would be interested he'd be at the top of my list but I can't see a rising star that has spent his entire life in Texas and Arkansas taking a middling Big East job when he'll be able to land a very nice B12 or SEC job very soon.
Simply, yes.
No Greg Marshall ?
I have no clue who next coach is going to be. And I’ll root for whoever it is and hope it’s the right choice yet again lol. But why are so many it seems against brey? Sure his last 5 years have been a bit hit or miss. But some have been hit. Something we don’t see at all. Plus his previous 5 or so at ND were very very good. And his teams can hit the 3!!!! Anyway. Was just curious why are you against him from those against him?
MugCostanza
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Can probably include him to that list at the bottom
If Pitino is a no go, then for me, all roads lead to Chris Mack.
If Pitino is off the list and the school doesn’t have the money to bring in a guy like Chris Mack (who would be my choice after Pitino) , then give the job to Van Macon . Shoes will stay, both of them are very well liked locally, they probably get the recruits and the best remaining players to stay and we give Van a chance. Have bring in a guy like Arbitiello as an assistant coach.
Why not Arbitello as Head Coach?
Yes it was a football move. A number of schools recently joined the CAA for all sports that used to be football only members.
If the school can’t spend the money required then I’m all for a guy like Arbitiello. I would prefer Van at that point because he’s there , has relationships with the current players and recruits etc. Arbitiello in my humble opinion would still be an upgrade over CMA.
Arbitiello would need serious NCAA experience on his bench. The Hurley bridge was almost burned to the ground when we passed on his brother. He then used us for an extension and raise. I don’t think anyone at the university forgot about that.
Like I said earlier, you can’t come up looking for a walk while the rest of the conference is hitting home runs…
Like I said earlier, you can’t come up looking for a walk while the rest of the conference is hitting home runs…