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Sense Mitch, as noted by many, will move up & Pecora may be a candidate for his vacated slot. We'll see.

Tom Pecora is an all-time genuinely good guy who at one time would have jumped at the chance to be on staff here at SJU in an asst capacity. He is by all means a relationship guy, who is still very close to Jay Wright. He coached Hofstra for 9 seasons, and won 19 or more 5 times (no NCAA bids). Since he only left the area (for one year at UNLV as asst) is his entire career, he'd be a good bet to not be sniffing around for another job. Queens Village guy, Adelphi grad, great friends with Ed Manetta (another QV guy - hmm). Not a prayer that we'd have another Slice situation, and no question he knows X's and O's.

We could do much, much worse.than Pecora. This makes a ton of sense to me.

Exactly the way I see it. He has had some very good success over the course of his career, even more than Slice did as a head coach. Don't see any negatives and a lot of possible positive.
I hope this happens.
 
He has had some very good success over the course of his career

By what metric has Pecora had "very good success." In 14 years as a HC he had 5 winning seasons. In those 5 winning seasons he made the NIT three times and lost in the first round twice. Otherwise he lost more than 15 games 10 times and more than 18 games 7 times. That's half his career. OTOH he won 10 games or fewer 6 times, nearly half his career. Maybe he's a great guy and hail fellow well met and blah blah blah but he stunk as a coach and was the few bullets this dopey program has managed to dodge over the years.
 
He has had some very good success over the course of his career

By what metric has Pecora had "very good success." In 14 years as a HC he had 5 winning seasons. In those 5 winning seasons he made the NIT three times and lost in the first round twice. Otherwise he lost more than 15 games 10 times and more than 18 games 7 times. That's half his career. OTOH he won 10 games or fewer 6 times, nearly half his career. Maybe he's a great guy and hail fellow well met and blah blah blah but he stunk as a coach and was the few bullets this dopey program has managed to dodge over the years.

The 5 winning seasons which I believe were at Hofstra and the 3 NIT trips. That is the "some " I was referring to.
 
He has had some very good success over the course of his career

By what metric has Pecora had "very good success." In 14 years as a HC he had 5 winning seasons. In those 5 winning seasons he made the NIT three times and lost in the first round twice. Otherwise he lost more than 15 games 10 times and more than 18 games 7 times. That's half his career. OTOH he won 10 games or fewer 6 times, nearly half his career. Maybe he's a great guy and hail fellow well met and blah blah blah but he stunk as a coach and was the few bullets this dopey program has managed to dodge over the years.

Was the horse that ran at Saratoga this weekend named after you?
 
He has had some very good success over the course of his career

By what metric has Pecora had "very good success." In 14 years as a HC he had 5 winning seasons. In those 5 winning seasons he made the NIT three times and lost in the first round twice. Otherwise he lost more than 15 games 10 times and more than 18 games 7 times. That's half his career. OTOH he won 10 games or fewer 6 times, nearly half his career. Maybe he's a great guy and hail fellow well met and blah blah blah but he stunk as a coach and was the few bullets this dopey program has managed to dodge over the years.

The 5 winning seasons which I believe were at Hofstra and the 3 NIT trips. That is the "some " I was referring to.

As we know, at least half of coaching is recruiting. Wright is a superb recruiter, and while at Hofstra as Jay's top assistant the team did really well. Fordham is a tall order for anyone and he never got the players. I'd say Pecora is a Mahoney++, a guy who had some success as a head coach, knows x's and o's, and would be a great fit temperament wise for this program. Actually on short notice, he is actually available, won't butt heads with Matt, and would relegate St. Jean to an age appropriate role on the bench and allow St. Jean to be a bulldog in practice (which I'd guess he is already)
 
Question for Happy and some others: Is Pecora still thought of well in NYC HS/AAU basketball circles?


I'll say this about Pecora and I was his one of his biggest detractors when he was lobbying for the SJU job years ago because we would have had the same result as he did at Fordham. I actually don't think he would be a horrible assistant and I do think he did a really good job at developing guards at Hofstra. If for the 3rd asst job I'd rather have Richmond unless he doesn't want it.. If it was for the job as special assistant then there is no downside to it
 
Question for Happy and some others: Is Pecora still thought of well in NYC HS/AAU basketball circles?


I'll say this about Pecora and I was his one of his biggest detractors when he was lobbying for the SJU job years ago because we would have had the same result as he did at Fordham. I actually don't think he would be a horrible assistant and I do think he did a really good job at developing guards at Hofstra. If for the 3rd asst job I'd rather have Richmond unless he doesn't want it.. If it was for the job as special assistant then there is no downside to it

Extremely well known and extremely well liked. He keeps up with hs coaches and like Wright, has legitimate friendships with many.

Discussing his record at Fordham as qualification is kind of silly. If he had a slew of NCAA bids we wouldn't be talking about him as an assistant candidate - he'd be a head coach somewhere. Actually, if he bides his time, would probably lock down a mid major HC job if he was wide open to relocating which I am guessing he isn't.

I wouldn't advocate him for a HC job here, but as an assistant whose job is to help Mullin actually coach this team he is a very good choice.
 
He has had some very good success over the course of his career

By what metric has Pecora had "very good success." In 14 years as a HC he had 5 winning seasons. In those 5 winning seasons he made the NIT three times and lost in the first round twice. Otherwise he lost more than 15 games 10 times and more than 18 games 7 times. That's half his career. OTOH he won 10 games or fewer 6 times, nearly half his career. Maybe he's a great guy and hail fellow well met and blah blah blah but he stunk as a coach and was the few bullets this dopey program has managed to dodge over the years.

The 5 winning seasons which I believe were at Hofstra and the 3 NIT trips. That is the "some " I was referring to.

Three NITs ten years ago and 44 and 106 since. That's awful, not "very good." Sure he outcoached Lavin but a stanchion could do that. Let's agree to disagree.
 
Meanwhile in Howard Beach.....

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Eye witnesses described an elderly man in sunglasses running from the scene. They said he had a cigar when he walked into the marsh but no cigar when he emerged. :eek:hmy:
 
Question for Happy and some others: Is Pecora still thought of well in NYC HS/AAU basketball circles?


I'll say this about Pecora and I was his one of his biggest detractors when he was lobbying for the SJU job years ago because we would have had the same result as he did at Fordham. I actually don't think he would be a horrible assistant and I do think he did a really good job at developing guards at Hofstra. If for the 3rd asst job I'd rather have Richmond unless he doesn't want it.. If it was for the job as special assistant then there is no downside to it

Liked or not if this was to materialize it will be in a non recruiting capacity. If and when Mitch takes the assistant gig they should dissolve the position and not hire anyone. Pretty soon Coach Mullin is going to have to sit on scorers table permanently because of amount of people on bench.
 
Sense Mitch, as noted by many, will move up & Pecora may be a candidate for his vacated slot. We'll see.

That would not go over big with The Maven
He "kills" Pecora on a regular basis on Twitter
What's Maven's beef with him besides the fact that he didn't do well at Fordham?

Maven could give a crap about his record at Fordham. His bashing Tom is purely "personal". While I am not a big fan of Tom Pecora from a basketball standpoint I sense he is a well liked person in the basketball community. The Twitter bashing is boorish. You can private message Hit aka son of Maven for the reason for prolonged personal vendetta. But let it be known that you all will be blocked on Twitter and Facebook should you like this possible hire. ;)
Of course in the case of the Maven people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at other people's glass house perhaps, or people who live in glass houses shouldn't say it's wrong to throw stones, and then do so anyway.
All I know is the fat lady has sung when it comes to Slice, the Maven and the inner workings of St. John's basketball. :(
 
Question for Happy and some others: Is Pecora still thought of well in NYC HS/AAU basketball circles?


I'll say this about Pecora and I was his one of his biggest detractors when he was lobbying for the SJU job years ago because we would have had the same result as he did at Fordham. I actually don't think he would be a horrible assistant and I do think he did a really good job at developing guards at Hofstra. If for the 3rd asst job I'd rather have Richmond unless he doesn't want it.. If it was for the job as special assistant then there is no downside to it

Liked or not if this was to materialize it will be in a non recruiting capacity. If and when Mitch takes the assistant gig they should dissolve the position and not hire anyone. Pretty soon Coach Mullin is going to have to sit on scorers table permanently because of amount of people on bench.

Head Coach, Assistant Coaches, Special Assistant, DOBO, Grad Assistants, Assistant to the HC. Sounds like a bank. :)
 
Sense Mitch, as noted by many, will move up & Pecora may be a candidate for his vacated slot. We'll see.

That would not go over big with The Maven
He "kills" Pecora on a regular basis on Twitter
What's Maven's beef with him besides the fact that he didn't do well at Fordham?

Maven could give a crap about his record at Fordham. His bashing Tom is purely "personal". While I am not a big fan of Tom Pecora from a basketball standpoint I sense he is a well liked person in the basketball community. The Twitter bashing is boorish. You can private message Hit aka son of Maven for the reason for prolonged personal vendetta. But let it be known that you all will be blocked on Twitter and Facebook should you like this possible hire. ;)
Of course in the case of the Maven people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at other people's glass house perhaps, or people who live in glass houses shouldn't say it's wrong to throw stones, and then do so anyway.
All I know is the fat lady has sung when it comes to Slice, the Maven and the inner workings of St. John's basketball. :(

The self-proclaimed "Maven" "boorish"? Surely you jest. B)
 
Pecora is a seasoned head coach and assistant coach. I think it would work well. His head coaching record has little to do with whether he'd be a good assistant here. A move like that would be a decent one for us overall IMO. Lots of good programs have had assistants who weren't necessarily successful head coaches, yet respected in basketball nonetheless.
 
Sense Mitch, as noted by many, will move up & Pecora may be a candidate for his vacated slot. We'll see.

That would not go over big with The Maven
He "kills" Pecora on a regular basis on Twitter
What's Maven's beef with him besides the fact that he didn't do well at Fordham?

Maven could give a crap about his record at Fordham. His bashing Tom is purely "personal". While I am not a big fan of Tom Pecora from a basketball standpoint I sense he is a well liked person in the basketball community. The Twitter bashing is boorish. You can private message Hit aka son of Maven for the reason for prolonged personal vendetta. But let it be known that you all will be blocked on Twitter and Facebook should you like this possible hire. ;)
Of course in the case of the Maven people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at other people's glass house perhaps, or people who live in glass houses shouldn't say it's wrong to throw stones, and then do so anyway.
All I know is the fat lady has sung when it comes to Slice, the Maven and the inner workings of St. John's basketball. :(

The self-proclaimed "Maven" "boorish"? Surely you jest. B)

In some there is a fine line between being a Maven and a Yenta. Just as there are bad journalists and good journalists , so there are good yentas and bad yentas. A good yenta provides you knowledge and wisdom about someting and a bad yenta is just an annoyance and gossip. It is sad that a big fan has gone from Big East Boards to Big East Boorish.
 
Pecora is a seasoned head coach and assistant coach. I think it would work well. His head coaching record has little to do with whether he'd be a good assistant here. A move like that would be a decent one for us overall IMO. Lots of good programs have had assistants who weren't necessarily successful head coaches, yet respected in basketball nonetheless.

Sounds a bit like Slice. Can Pecora recruit?
 
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