NY YANKEES - 2021

Delaware post=437895 said:
I'd be shocked if no one else is affected.

Way to go out on a limb after 4 players in a week test positive./media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
Got the winning lotto numbers too?
 
Way to go Odur. Playing a deep third base he plays a hard hit ground ball (by no means a scorcher) off to the side instead of getting in front of it and it goes off his glove too far away to throw the runner out. Guess he was afraid ball might hit his body and give him a boo boo. Pay millions to these guys to play the game in a way deleterious to winning. Opened door of a scoreless game to lead to 2 runs for Seattle.
 
Feels to me like the Yanks only gained on one team this weekend, Seattle, and they could have buried them, but once again failed to finish off a sweep. Not sure why Ridings did not come out in the 8th inning. Odor misplay was huge. Defensively Yanks were not good today, although Gallo made a nice play.

Continuing issue for the Yanks is that they struggle with RISP. This series they were 2 for 10, 2 for 15, 2 for 8, and then a goose egg today, 0 for 11. 6 for 44 in the series. Really bad. Hopefully there are no more covid cases upcoming. On to KC.
 
Toronto comes from 5 runs back to beat Boston.  It's great to see the Red Sox collapse, but Toronto might be the best team in the East (they're even with us in the loss column), and Tampa may have been spotted too many games for us to overtake them   4 in Oakland later this month (where we usually struggle), and 7 games with the Jays in September may decide our fate.
 
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Note:  This team just went 11-4 over the last fifteen games with half their roster was on the IL.  

 
 
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game 111. super wide home plate for both teams.
what a crappy home plate ump. 27 strikeouts (twenty seven). no earned runs. threw a player out.
voit - rusty on offense and defense.
seattle nail biter game 4 of 4. shame that game was decided by odor eater's error.
gil - late push for ROY.
boone's team - bunt single, hit and run. stolen base, successful pinch hitter - late push for MOY
 
JohnnyFan post=437909 said:
Note:  This team just went 11-4 over the last fifteen games while half their roster was on the IL.  


 

Yeah but where's the fun in the thread followers following that /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
 
bamafan post=437904 said:
Way to go Odur. Playing a deep third base he plays a hard hit ground ball (by no means a scorcher) off to the side instead of getting in front of it and it goes off his glove too far away to throw the runner out. Guess he was afraid ball might hit his body and give him a boo boo. Pay millions to these guys to play the game in a way deleterious to winning. Opened door of a scoreless game to lead to 2 runs for Seattle.

I understand that it was a game changing play.  But also this is the 8th game Odor has played 3B in his career.  All this year.  All ironically since DJ went down with 'triceps' injury.  Makes it pretty clear DJ is hurt, it impacts a long throw across the diamond from 3B and likely impact his swing.  So I can't really fault Odor for playing out of position.  

This is where you guys need to get on your ole whipping boy Cashman for having that waste of space Tyler Wade on the team.  I particularly loved the foul ball today that dropped right at his feet that he didnt even reach for .
 
I was wondering the same thing about why Wade did not even attempt to reach out for that ball. I thought Voit was good in the field, getting to 1st on a play Gil was slow. And making the throw to 2nd where neither Yankees infielder covered. 
 
Moose post=437914 said:
bamafan post=437904 said:
Way to go Odur. Playing a deep third base he plays a hard hit ground ball (by no means a scorcher) off to the side instead of getting in front of it and it goes off his glove too far away to throw the runner out. Guess he was afraid ball might hit his body and give him a boo boo. Pay millions to these guys to play the game in a way deleterious to winning. Opened door of a scoreless game to lead to 2 runs for Seattle.

I understand that it was a game changing play.  But also this is the 8th game Odor has played 3B in his career.  All this year.  All ironically since DJ went down with 'triceps' injury.  Makes it pretty clear DJ is hurt, it impacts a long throw across the diamond from 3B and likely impact his swing.  So I can't really fault Odor for playing out of position.  

This is where you guys need to get on your ole whipping boy Cashman for having that waste of space Tyler Wade on the team.  I particularly loved the foul ball today that dropped right at his feet that he didnt even reach for .
Odur didn't get in front of the ball because he was afraid the ball might hit him and cause a bruise and Wade didn't reach for the ball for fear of straining a muscle. Pretty obvious the Yankees are made out of cream cheese. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
 
Delaware post=437915 said:
I was wondering the same thing about why Wade did not even attempt to reach out for that ball. I thought Voit was good in the field, getting to 1st on a play Gil was slow. And making the throw to 2nd where neither Yankees infielder covered. 

That play with the Voit throw I agree.  That was a big issue.  But I think it's on Torres.  Torres just isnt an alpha for me.  At SS you need to be an alpha.
 
Our game with the Royals is the only one on Monday's MLB schedule that affects our playoff chances.  All of our competitors are off.

Pitching matchup:

Yankees - Jameson Taillon - 7-4, 4.04
Royals - Carlos Hernandez - 3-1, 4.58

Start time is 8:10 PM
 
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bamafan post=437916 said:
Moose post=437914 said:
bamafan post=437904 said:
Way to go Odur. Playing a deep third base he plays a hard hit ground ball (by no means a scorcher) off to the side instead of getting in front of it and it goes off his glove too far away to throw the runner out. Guess he was afraid ball might hit his body and give him a boo boo. Pay millions to these guys to play the game in a way deleterious to winning. Opened door of a scoreless game to lead to 2 runs for Seattle.

I understand that it was a game changing play.  But also this is the 8th game Odor has played 3B in his career.  All this year.  All ironically since DJ went down with 'triceps' injury.  Makes it pretty clear DJ is hurt, it impacts a long throw across the diamond from 3B and likely impact his swing.  So I can't really fault Odor for playing out of position.  

This is where you guys need to get on your ole whipping boy Cashman for having that waste of space Tyler Wade on the team.  I particularly loved the foul ball today that dropped right at his feet that he didnt even reach for .
Odur didn't get in front of the ball because he was afraid the ball might hit him and cause a bruise and Wade didn't reach for the ball for fear of straining a muscle. Pretty obvious the Yankees are made out of cream cheese. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
Just like most of their fans...  /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png
 
Moose post=437917 said:
Delaware post=437915 said:
I was wondering the same thing about why Wade did not even attempt to reach out for that ball. I thought Voit was good in the field, getting to 1st on a play Gil was slow. And making the throw to 2nd where neither Yankees infielder covered. 

That play with the Voit throw I agree.  That was a big issue.  But I think it's on Torres.  Torres just isnt an alpha for me.  At SS you need to be an alpha.
If you are talking about that play in the 2nd or 3rd inning where they should have turned two after Voit layed out for a ball and made a perfect throw to 2nd, that was on Odor, not Torres.  He has the bag ion that play and needs to get there faster so he can get across it to the home plate side and give Voit a throwing lane.  He didn't, so when Voit threw from his knees, Odor lost sight of the ball when the baserunner crossed his line of sight and he stopped.
 
 
SJUFAN2 post=437926 said:
Moose post=437917 said:
Delaware post=437915 said:
I was wondering the same thing about why Wade did not even attempt to reach out for that ball. I thought Voit was good in the field, getting to 1st on a play Gil was slow. And making the throw to 2nd where neither Yankees infielder covered. 

That play with the Voit throw I agree.  That was a big issue.  But I think it's on Torres.  Torres just isnt an alpha for me.  At SS you need to be an alpha.
If you are talking about that play in the 2nd or 3rd inning where they should have turned two after Voit layed out for a ball and made a perfect throw to 2nd, that was on Odor, not Torres.  He has the bag ion that play and needs to get there faster so he can get across it to the home plate side and give Voit a throwing lane.  He didn't, so when Voit threw from his knees, Odor lost sight of the ball when the baserunner crossed his line of sight and he stopped.


 
I disagree
But since you love Gleyber like a first born child 

The throw was on the inside of the bag.  For Odor to get there, catch, stay on the bag, and throw would be a bit much.  Easier for the SS to cut across with momentum.  I recall see Gleyber's feet in cement not even moving to the bag.  Then again maybe it's PTSD of him the other night completely giving up on a blooper between him and the LF'er. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
 
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Moose post=437931 said:
SJUFAN2 post=437926 said:
Moose post=437917 said:
Delaware post=437915 said:
I was wondering the same thing about why Wade did not even attempt to reach out for that ball. I thought Voit was good in the field, getting to 1st on a play Gil was slow. And making the throw to 2nd where neither Yankees infielder covered. 

That play with the Voit throw I agree.  That was a big issue.  But I think it's on Torres.  Torres just isnt an alpha for me.  At SS you need to be an alpha.
If you are talking about that play in the 2nd or 3rd inning where they should have turned two after Voit layed out for a ball and made a perfect throw to 2nd, that was on Odor, not Torres.  He has the bag ion that play and needs to get there faster so he can get across it to the home plate side and give Voit a throwing lane.  He didn't, so when Voit threw from his knees, Odor lost sight of the ball when the baserunner crossed his line of sight and he stopped.



 
I disagree
But since you love Gleyber like a first born child 

The throw was on the inside of the bag.  For Odor to get there, catch, stay on the bag, and throw would be a bit much.  Easier for the SS to cut across with momentum.  I recall see Gleyber's feet in cement not even moving to the bag.  Then again maybe it's PTSD of him the other night completely giving up on a blooper between him and the LF'er. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
Watch the play again.  Torres is too far away to cover the bag because he's the only guy on the left side of the infield.   He never breaks for the bag.   Odor, who was playing 3b was behind the bag at 2nd base so he could turn the double play.   You are correct that Torres would have a better view of the throw but it wasn't his job to cover on that play.  He's responsible for covering 3b.  If he were to try to cover and lose a foot race to the bag with the runner, that runner just keeps on going to 3rd.  
When you set up your defense that way the guy behind the bag has 2b.  The problem is that you don't anticipate the First baseman to be throwing from his knees.   If he's upright the throw is above shoulder level and Odor can see it the whole way.   Because the launch point of the throw is a few feet lower due to Voit diving, the runner's torso blocks Odor's view of the ball coming out of Voit's hand.   
I know you hate Torres and would love for this to be on him so you can complain about him even more /media/kunena/emoticons/cheerful.png... but its not.  
 
SJUFAN2 post=437933 said:
Moose post=437931 said:
SJUFAN2 post=437926 said:
Moose post=437917 said:
Delaware post=437915 said:
I was wondering the same thing about why Wade did not even attempt to reach out for that ball. I thought Voit was good in the field, getting to 1st on a play Gil was slow. And making the throw to 2nd where neither Yankees infielder covered. 

That play with the Voit throw I agree.  That was a big issue.  But I think it's on Torres.  Torres just isnt an alpha for me.  At SS you need to be an alpha.
If you are talking about that play in the 2nd or 3rd inning where they should have turned two after Voit layed out for a ball and made a perfect throw to 2nd, that was on Odor, not Torres.  He has the bag ion that play and needs to get there faster so he can get across it to the home plate side and give Voit a throwing lane.  He didn't, so when Voit threw from his knees, Odor lost sight of the ball when the baserunner crossed his line of sight and he stopped.




 
I disagree
But since you love Gleyber like a first born child 

The throw was on the inside of the bag.  For Odor to get there, catch, stay on the bag, and throw would be a bit much.  Easier for the SS to cut across with momentum.  I recall see Gleyber's feet in cement not even moving to the bag.  Then again maybe it's PTSD of him the other night completely giving up on a blooper between him and the LF'er. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
Watch the play again.  Torres is too far away to cover the bag because he's the only guy on the left side of the infield.   He never breaks for the bag.   Odor, who was playing 3b was behind the bag at 2nd base so he could turn the double play.   You are correct that Torres would have a better view of the throw but it wasn't his job to cover on that play.  He's responsible for covering 3b.  If he were to try to cover and lose a foot race to the bag with the runner, that runner just keeps on going to 3rd.  
When you set up your defense that way the guy behind the bag has 2b.  The problem is that you don't anticipate the First baseman to be throwing from his knees.   If he's upright the throw is above shoulder level and Odor can see it the whole way.   Because the launch point of the throw is a few feet lower due to Voit diving, the runner's torso blocks Odor's view of the ball coming out of Voit's hand.   
I know you hate Torres and would love for this to be on him so you can complain about him even more /media/kunena/emoticons/cheerful.png... but its not.  

So is Voit or Odor at fault
Don't fence.  Can only pick one /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png
 
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