NY Post Critique

Sunday night I challenged any reporter to have a pair of ball and ask Lavin tough questions, well this isn`t exactly asking Lavin, but atleast Zach put this out there for everyone to read.
TY Zach very much.
Hope if not all then atleast some of the donaters read the article. They`re paying his salary, bet they don`t like it at all.
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Who is this Zach guy, and what are his credentials? Sorry, I am not from NY, so I am just curious about who he is.

And also, I hate to break it to ya, but donaters DO NOT pay Lavin's salary, the University does. However, the school may choose to allocate some of the donated money towards his salary. Lavin's salary is not contingent upon the amount of donations they get. Unless he has some weird clause in his contract which states he earns a certain % of donations, if his salary is $1.3M (and I have no idea what his actual salary is), that is what he is going to get, regardless if donations are $5M or $0.
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Zach Brazilier, he's the college basketball writer for the NY Post that covers St. John's. He defended Norm for a very long time, so this is somewhat a surprise.
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Zach defended Norm? Has he even been around that long? Lenn was our beat writer for the Norm years and I only recall Zach the last few years?
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Funny...we begged for an article like this for years when Norm was here
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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If it is Pecora, he shouldn't be talking...he wouldn't even be considered...I am not impressed with Fordham's development...
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Fordham is 7-10 and 0-4 in conference. How could you be?
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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Randomly throwing out another coach's name like that is perhaps just as low and cowardly of the author of the original article not naming sources and leaving it for guessing. Creates nothing but controversy and negativity for the program. I do not think TP would open his mouth like this. And it is not fair to drag his name through the mud like that. Regardless of the "sources" I think this article is finally stating the obvious.

A bunch of over hyped players, with absolutely nothing to show for. HOWEVER, this is college basketball, and the beauty of it is that we still have a chance to prove something, to improve our play, squeeze out some wins, and hopefully do some damage come March.
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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If it is Pecora, he shouldn't be talking...he wouldn't even be considered...I am not impressed with Fordham's development...
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Fordham is 7-10 and 0-4 in conference. How could you be?
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Fordham won their first conference game last night. Perhaps we will win our first tonight.
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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Randomly throwing out another coach's name like that is perhaps just as low and cowardly of the author of the original article not naming sources and leaving it for guessing. Creates nothing but controversy and negativity for the program. I do not think TP would open his mouth like this. And it is not fair to drag his name through the mud like that. Regardless of the "sources" I think this article is finally stating the obvious.

A bunch of over hyped players, with absolutely nothing to show for. HOWEVER, this is college basketball, and the beauty of it is that we still have a chance to prove something, to improve our play, squeeze out some wins, and hopefully do some damage come March.
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So am I getting this right that you're pretty much saying all reporters are cowardly as pretty much all of them work off of sources that cannot be named for a variety of reasons?
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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Randomly throwing out another coach's name like that is perhaps just as low and cowardly of the author of the original article not naming sources and leaving it for guessing. Creates nothing but controversy and negativity for the program. I do not think TP would open his mouth like this. And it is not fair to drag his name through the mud like that. Regardless of the "sources" I think this article is finally stating the obvious.

A bunch of over hyped players, with absolutely nothing to show for. HOWEVER, this is college basketball, and the beauty of it is that we still have a chance to prove something, to improve our play, squeeze out some wins, and hopefully do some damage come March.
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So am I getting this right that you're pretty much saying all reporters are cowardly as pretty much all of them work off of sources that cannot be named for a variety of reasons?
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Just to play devil's advocate, as someone who dabbles in journalism, what is to stop someone from making up any quote they want and using the term "source" as the one who said it? There is no fact checking and no way anybody would know.
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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Randomly throwing out another coach's name like that is perhaps just as low and cowardly of the author of the original article not naming sources and leaving it for guessing. Creates nothing but controversy and negativity for the program. I do not think TP would open his mouth like this. And it is not fair to drag his name through the mud like that. Regardless of the "sources" I think this article is finally stating the obvious.

A bunch of over hyped players, with absolutely nothing to show for. HOWEVER, this is college basketball, and the beauty of it is that we still have a chance to prove something, to improve our play, squeeze out some wins, and hopefully do some damage come March.
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So am I getting this right that you're pretty much saying all reporters are cowardly as pretty much all of them work off of sources that cannot be named for a variety of reasons?
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Just to play devil's advocate, as someone who dabbles in journalism, what is to stop someone from making up any quote they want and using the term "source" as the one who said it? There is no fact checking and no way anybody would know.
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Newsie knows more about the industry than me. And I know we have discussed this before. Mostly when posters say they have a 'source'. I think there is some level of fact checking where an editor also knows of the source before they allow it in print but I'm just guessing.
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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Randomly throwing out another coach's name like that is perhaps just as low and cowardly of the author of the original article not naming sources and leaving it for guessing. Creates nothing but controversy and negativity for the program. I do not think TP would open his mouth like this. And it is not fair to drag his name through the mud like that. Regardless of the "sources" I think this article is finally stating the obvious.

A bunch of over hyped players, with absolutely nothing to show for. HOWEVER, this is college basketball, and the beauty of it is that we still have a chance to prove something, to improve our play, squeeze out some wins, and hopefully do some damage come March.
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So am I getting this right that you're pretty much saying all reporters are cowardly as pretty much all of them work off of sources that cannot be named for a variety of reasons?
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Just to play devil's advocate, as someone who dabbles in journalism, what is to stop someone from making up any quote they want and using the term "source" as the one who said it? There is no fact checking and no way anybody would know.
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Newsie knows more about the industry than me. And I know we have discussed this before. Mostly when posters say they have a 'source'. I think there is some level of fact checking where an editor also knows of the source before they allow it in print but I'm just guessing.
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I'm not saying anyone is lying or this writer is making things up, but I don't think there's anything stopping him from taking a quote from redmen.com that fits his article and citing a "source".
 
Fair article and I think most of what he says is very accurate. That being said, I doubt Lavin doesn't doesn't want to be here and I wonder who the source to program is. This is complete hearsay but source could be hicks (maybe not leaving on good terms). College coach is probably Pecora. Guy wants this job so bad-lol!
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Randomly throwing out another coach's name like that is perhaps just as low and cowardly of the author of the original article not naming sources and leaving it for guessing. Creates nothing but controversy and negativity for the program. I do not think TP would open his mouth like this. And it is not fair to drag his name through the mud like that. Regardless of the "sources" I think this article is finally stating the obvious.

A bunch of over hyped players, with absolutely nothing to show for. HOWEVER, this is college basketball, and the beauty of it is that we still have a chance to prove something, to improve our play, squeeze out some wins, and hopefully do some damage come March.
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So am I getting this right that you're pretty much saying all reporters are cowardly as pretty much all of them work off of sources that cannot be named for a variety of reasons?
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Just to play devil's advocate, as someone who dabbles in journalism, what is to stop someone from making up any quote they want and using the term "source" as the one who said it? There is no fact checking and no way anybody would know.
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Newsie knows more about the industry than me. And I know we have discussed this before. Mostly when posters say they have a 'source'. I think there is some level of fact checking where an editor also knows of the source before they allow it in print but I'm just guessing.
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I'm not saying anyone is lying or this writer is making things up, but I don't think there's anything stopping him from taking a quote from redmen.com that fits his article and citing a "source".
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OK. But in this instance he has legit sources. It's not anything or anyone from here.
 
For top-notch journalism like the Times or WSJ, I know they have a policy of using anonymous sources as last resort when the story is of compelling public interest and the information is not available any other way.” Like in instances of national security, or instances of serious political consequences where deepthroat wasn't going to reveal himself.

The Post obviously doesn't play by those rules. If you want to criticize Zach I think it's fair to ask why he's writing a story about what other people think. Arguably he should a) write about the objective failures/successes of the program under Lavin, if that's indeed his topic, or b) write a column about his personal opinion on the type of job Lavin has done. Using anonymous sources isn't his problem (although that's not a good thing), but why is he writing a story about gossip in the first place?
 
Pure speculation on my part..Just my opinion so take it accordingly.

It is possible the INSIDER network in COLLEGE BB circles know more about our Coaching situation than has been revealed. This would mean, in addition to the Press, current COACHES, former COACHES, tv Analysts, etc. And, also the high school BB community...AND, by Coaches, I don't mean former SJU personnel.

If Recruiting has stopped completely as evidence mounts, that might be a tell tale sign that Lavin is looking to leave the job voluntarily, under some sort of negotiated settlement.

Maybe the combination of Lavin's illness, the passing of his Father, NY'S current weather, his wife's show biz career and, him losing the desire to Coach, all add up to him thinking of a return to the West Coast and back to the TV gigs? After all, he was out of Coaching for 8 years and the game has incorporated a lot more 3 point shooting as a Team strategy in that time frame. He hasn't recruited a top notch shooter in his time here. No offense to Hooper or Marco but, they are role players, not first team regulars.

Anyway, there are 8 million stories in the NAKED CITY.. This is only 1 of them.
 
For top-notch journalism like the Times or WSJ, I know they have a policy of using anonymous sources as last resort when the story is of compelling public interest and the information is not available any other way.” Like in instances of national security, or instances of serious political consequences where deepthroat wasn't going to reveal himself.

The Post obviously doesn't play by those rules. If you want to criticize Zach I think it's fair to ask why he's writing a story about what other people think. Arguably he should a) write about the objective failures/successes of the program under Lavin, if that's indeed his topic, or b) write a column about his personal opinion on the type of job Lavin has done. Using anonymous sources isn't his problem (although that's not a good thing), but why is he writing a story about gossip in the first place?
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To me it looked like he used anonymous sources to say the things he really felt himself. Almost as like he didn't want to fully put his neck on the line and call out Lavin himself, but instead let anonymous sources do the talking for him. Just my take.
 
For top-notch journalism like the Times or WSJ, I know they have a policy of using anonymous sources as last resort when the story is of compelling public interest and the information is not available any other way.” Like in instances of national security, or instances of serious political consequences where deepthroat wasn't going to reveal himself.

The Post obviously doesn't play by those rules. If you want to criticize Zach I think it's fair to ask why he's writing a story about what other people think. Arguably he should a) write about the objective failures/successes of the program under Lavin, if that's indeed his topic, or b) write a column about his personal opinion on the type of job Lavin has done. Using anonymous sources isn't his problem (although that's not a good thing), but why is he writing a story about gossip in the first place?
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To me it looked like he used anonymous sources to say the things he really felt himself. Almost as like he didn't want to fully put his neck on the line and call out Lavin himself, but instead let anonymous sources do the talking for him. Just my take.
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Totally agree. It should have been an opinion column, but it's almost as if he didn't have the balls to say things himself so he made it a news story with anonymous sources.
 
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