NY FOOTBALL GIANTS ‘23-‘24
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Not putting all the blame on Jones. This entire team is bad.
He is part of the problem however. His quick instincts and confidence we saw in the second half against Arizona have been missing every other part of the season.
And Daboll was irate at him after the pick six.
Yeah if it wasn't for that second half comeback against Cards or collapse by Cards Giants are staring 0-4 and probably 0-6 (Miami and Buffalo coming up how in the hell are they even going to be competitive?)
This is bad. I don't think Daboll is in trouble but man he needs to work some magic to stop them from embarrassing themselves.. And they are paying the price for Gettleman's awful draft and free agency tenure.
Someone pointed this out 2 years ago, 2021 draft. The Giants were picking 11th, the Cowboys 12th. The Eagles traded up to 10 one pick above the Giants to take DeVonte Smith. The Giants traded down to 20 and took Kadarius Toney. the Cowboys stayed at 12 and took Micah Parsons.
So two of their rivals get two Pro Bowl/All Pro caliber talents and the Giants get a bust who gets traded away a year later.
This is bad. I don't think Daboll is in trouble but man he needs to work some magic to stop them from embarrassing themselves.. And they are paying the price for Gettleman's awful draft and free agency tenure.
Someone pointed this out 2 years ago, 2021 draft. The Giants were picking 11th, the Cowboys 12th. The Eagles traded up to 10 one pick above the Giants to take DeVonte Smith. The Giants traded down to 20 and took Kadarius Toney. the Cowboys stayed at 12 and took Micah Parsons.
So two of their rivals get two Pro Bowl/All Pro caliber talents and the Giants get a bust who gets traded away a year later.
To me, Gettleman is the GM equivalent of Ray Handley as a coach.
But there are stories that Gettleman wanted to pick Parsons, but Judge wanted Toney. By that time, Judge had taken over as the final voice in the room and he got his way.
Again, this is not a Gettleman defense post. Just for clarity.
Yeah I don't see how with the way they are currently playing especially on offense they stay competitive with either the Fins or the Bills.
I think both of these games could get real ugly. Like give up 50 burgers to both kind of ugly...
The Giants will go no where with a QB from Duke--he was 5th pick in first round in a QB poor 2019 draft versus the 2020 draft which has had a number of starters chosen who have succeeded, including 2nd round pick hurts of Eagles
I vote no more NJ based football teams on Sunday/Monday nights at the swamp aka MetLife Stadium. At least not consecutively.
The first week was the 40 point Cowboy thrashing Giants and then the next night was the Jets Aaron Rodgers Achilles night. Now we have Chiefs Sunday night win followed by whatever that was last night with 10 or 11 sack (I lost count) nightmare.
Please let these teams play 1 o’clock on Sunday games. I often think some TV executives set this up so they don’t have to travel for at least two weeks.
The first week was the 40 point Cowboy thrashing Giants and then the next night was the Jets Aaron Rodgers Achilles night. Now we have Chiefs Sunday night win followed by whatever that was last night with 10 or 11 sack (I lost count) nightmare.
Please let these teams play 1 o’clock on Sunday games. I often think some TV executives set this up so they don’t have to travel for at least two weeks.
Don't feel bad for Jones-he is getting $40 million to play tackling dummy. could have spent more wisely on the O-line
His contract is fine. We'll be able to get out of it after next year with a small cap hit. Signing him was cheaper towards the cap vs. tagging him. It was the only way to keep Saquon.
Schoen deserves a lot of blame. Evan Neal and these other young guys on the line have all been a disaster.
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Done talking about this year.
Just hoping they go 1-15, and draft a top QB.
With Jones here next year, the kid won't be thrown to the wolves, and they can take their time with him.
Hopefully 2 years would be enough time to get a pretty good line to protect him.
Just hoping they go 1-15, and draft a top QB.
With Jones here next year, the kid won't be thrown to the wolves, and they can take their time with him.
Hopefully 2 years would be enough time to get a pretty good line to protect him.
Gotta start rooting for the Bears, Panthers, Patriots and Broncos.
One thing I'll say is that our schedule does soften up after next week. But I don't have much hope.
Caleb Williams has great escapability. Pat Mahomes on steroids.
The Giants should do what Eagles did, put together an effective O Line; that is the draft priority--if you saw the Birds game yesterday, you would see how an offensive line can dominate the game. 38 minutes time of possession; 77 offensive plays; The "Brotherly Shove" on 3rd and short. (And yes I am a Birds fan)
Giants have drafted the most lineman of any team in the last three years, including using a #5 overall pick on Neal, third rounder on Ezeudu (as a guard), and a second rounder on Schmitz. Plus Andrew Thomas four years ago with another top five overall pick, and Peart with a third rounder.
The most frustrating thing isn’t the lack of prioritization, it’s the very clear misses we’ve had. Thomas is the only sure-fire starter of that group.
