Nov 8, 2016 - The lesser of two evils?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Nobody is talking about all the personal e-mails that go through secure work servers. Not saying that many of those e-mails are illegal but I am sure some are. I am sure that it is a drain on productivity.

That is a distraction to this issue. Here we have perhaps the second most powerful person in the world handling our most sensitive correspondence through a virtually unsecured server where our worst adversaries who would do us harm could most easily attack and gain this sensitive knowledge. If she was unaware of this she doesn't have the brains to be President. If she was aware of this and did it anyway, she is a criminal who compromised national security. That liberals don't care about this demonstrates a naivete about telecommunications and how vulnerable classified correspondence that is left unsecured leaves us open to espionage and jeopardizes our national security. And all these assholes want us to do is focus on where Wikileaks is getting there information from, and not the actual content. Excuse me, they aren't the assholes, they are brilliant manipulators of their followers conscience and thought - those who think this is small potatoes are the real asses.
the one thing is I can say at least of some of my democrat friends is I don think people truly understand the scope of this email thing and potentially how damaging it could have been

But yet the dems are convinced the russaians hacked their email and you have Biden and whoever basically declaring cyberwarfare. If thats not irresponsible I don't know what it. I'm all for responding to hacks with hacks but don't fucking televise it and yet they whitewash the hillary private server under the table. This is so disgusting

So Hillary private email server no big deal but hacked dnc emails and this so called election stuff where the doc is caught red handed is a national security and potential act of declared cyberfare response
 
Do you realize that the stories of Trumps unwanted advances (though none rise to criminality) have gotten something like 50 times the attention in airtime than the wikileaks content, which is truly an obfuscation of what really matters in this election.
 
Sex sells.

I'd like to believe that is the reason. I really do.

But in any interviews Mike Pence gave, recently one to the today show, when he tried to point out precisely what I'd written - that these were serious allegations that don't compare to the scandalous content of Wikileaks - both Savanah Guthrie and Matt Lauer tried to keep the subject on Trump negativity, with Guthrie saying, "When Hillary Clinton is on, we will ask her". The only problem is as we know, 1) they throw her softballs with qritten questions beforehand as a precondition to her appearing, and 2) she has gone into hiding and rarely gives interviews anyways.
 
Those 'sexual advances' ...you mean sexual assault allegations?!!? Well, they sure the hell may 'rise to criminality' if those Apprentice Tapes are ever released.
These emails show nada of any kind of 'criminality'. And we've been inundated with streams of investigations and allegations about them for two years.
If y'all are so concerned about 'private servers' and 'confidential info' and failing to store/keep those emails?
LOOK no further than Bush's 22 million 'lost' emails on a private server used by the Bush White House and how a regular pattern of 'email system blackouts' occurred. The automatic Clinton Admin email archive was shut down by the Bush White House, with the start date of 'lost' emails being 1/1/2003 through the early days of the Iraq Invasion and including periods of 'blackout' from VP Cheney.
And if y'all are concerned about the sanctity of US Governance look no further than the Ruskies attempting to steal a freaking Presidential election.
Where the hell is the outrage about that?
Give it a break, oh selective Government Ombudsmen of 'anything Clinton or Democrat'.
You people are hypocrites.
 
Do you realize that the stories of Trumps unwanted advances (though none rise to criminality) have gotten something like 50 times the attention in airtime than the wikileaks content, which is truly an obfuscation of what really matters in this election.
pure media bias.
 
Sex sells.

I'd like to believe that is the reason. I really do.

But in any interviews Mike Pence gave, recently one to the today show, when he tried to point out precisely what I'd written - that these were serious allegations that don't compare to the scandalous content of Wikileaks - both Savanah Guthrie and Matt Lauer tried to keep the subject on Trump negativity, with Guthrie saying, "When Hillary Clinton is on, we will ask her". The only problem is as we know, 1) they throw her softballs with qritten questions beforehand as a precondition to her appearing, and 2) she has gone into hiding and rarely gives interviews anyways.
I saw that interview and literally thought the same thing
 
The GOP did anything and everything in their power to prevent Trump from becoming their nominee, and thus potentially becoming president. The Democratic party has done anything and everything(legal and otherwise) in their power to see to it that Hillary was their nominee, and is doing everything they can, including using the left leaning media, to see to it that she becomes President. And with all of that, the polls still only have her slightly ahead of Trump. Imagine what the polls would look like if this was actually a fair race?

PS I hate Trump, but the fact is that the democratic process is not working in this election. It was rigged in favor of Hillary over Bernie, and it's rigged now.
 
The 'Alt Right' is an Alternative Universe. So, what's 'better' doing 'everything possible to prevent a candidate from getting the nomination and failing or doing everything to influence a candidate's nomination?!?
Seems to me that both are odious!
You people went to Trump U.
I'm sure of it.
 
The 'Alt Right' is an Alternative Universe. So, what's 'better' doing 'everything possible to prevent a candidate from getting the nomination and failing or doing everything to influence a candidate's nomination?!?
Seems to me that both are odious!
You people went to Trump U.
I'm sure of it.

Who exactly is "you people"?
 
Clearly ya'll on here to try and inflame. Knock yourself out.
 
Hey, I do not want to be 'snarky'. And people have a right to their opinion, but conventional wisdom is incorrect, in that all opinions are not created equal. The facts must rule. Science must rule. Data...et cetera.
Hillary is not my favorite, but in contrast to Trump, to categorize this 'choice' as 'the lesser of two evils' is simply incorrect.
We have huge issues facing us in this country. And Trump and the Republicans have consistently been on the 'wrong side' of the issues.
And I'm not a knee-jerk Democrat. They suckle at the corporate teat as well. Just not as assiduously as Republicans.
Anyway, take care. Talk soon.
 
Hey, I do not want to be 'snarky'. And people have a right to their opinion, but conventional wisdom is incorrect, in that all opinions are not created equal. The facts must rule. Science must rule. Data...et cetera.
Hillary is not my favorite, but in contrast to Trump, to categorize this 'choice' as 'the lesser of two evils' is simply incorrect.
We have huge issues facing us in this country. And Trump and the Republicans have consistently been on the 'wrong side' of the issues.
And I'm not a knee-jerk Democrat. They suckle at the corporate teat as well. Just not as assiduously as Republicans.
Anyway, take care. Talk soon.
We didn't go to Trump U, haven't you heard it's a sham. As far as Trump and Republicans being on the wrong side of the issues, this country has been heading down hill under 8 years of the golfing Muslim.
 
The GOP did anything and everything in their power to prevent Trump from becoming their nominee, and thus potentially becoming president. The Democratic party has done anything and everything(legal and otherwise) in their power to see to it that Hillary was their nominee, and is doing everything they can, including using the left leaning media, to see to it that she becomes President. And with all of that, the polls still only have her slightly ahead of Trump. Imagine what the polls would look like if this was actually a fair race?

PS I hate Trump, but the fact is that the democratic process is not working in this election. It was rigged in favor of Hillary over Bernie, and it's rigged now.
Imagine what the polls would be like if Trumps mouth wasn't so big? He is his own worse enemy.
 
The GOP did anything and everything in their power to prevent Trump from becoming their nominee, and thus potentially becoming president. The Democratic party has done anything and everything(legal and otherwise) in their power to see to it that Hillary was their nominee, and is doing everything they can, including using the left leaning media, to see to it that she becomes President. And with all of that, the polls still only have her slightly ahead of Trump. Imagine what the polls would look like if this was actually a fair race?

PS I hate Trump, but the fact is that the democratic process is not working in this election. It was rigged in favor of Hillary over Bernie, and it's rigged now.
Imagine what the polls would be like if Trumps mouth wasn't so big? He is his own worse enemy.
It worked in the primary because repubs like me are so mad at the establishment but he has screwed up the general election with his big mouth and idiotic rants so much he has no one to blame but himself if he loses.

And I happen to like the SNL parodies and think Baldwin ( although politically an ass ) does an awesome Trumo
 
The GOP did anything and everything in their power to prevent Trump from becoming their nominee, and thus potentially becoming president. The Democratic party has done anything and everything(legal and otherwise) in their power to see to it that Hillary was their nominee, and is doing everything they can, including using the left leaning media, to see to it that she becomes President. And with all of that, the polls still only have her slightly ahead of Trump. Imagine what the polls would look like if this was actually a fair race?

PS I hate Trump, but the fact is that the democratic process is not working in this election. It was rigged in favor of Hillary over Bernie, and it's rigged now.
Imagine what the polls would be like if Trumps mouth wasn't so big? He is his own worse enemy.

Don't disagree Rich, but that just goes to show how desperate this country is for a change. That so many people are willing to vote for Trump in spite of his mouth, his transgressions, his lack of experience, etc. etc. etc. Hey I don't like the guy(although I am a Republican and will vote for him), but I completely understand why so man people find him so appealing.
 
you as in y'all.

Do you use Y'all the same way obama does when he wans ta soun like reggala people,and not a guy who grew up in a white mixdle class household in Hawaii?

To any of the maginaluzed, disenfranchised populations mired in multi-generational poverty that Democrats always maintain they are tfying to uplift,hows that worked so far?
 
The GOP did anything and everything in their power to prevent Trump from becoming their nominee, and thus potentially becoming president. The Democratic party has done anything and everything(legal and otherwise) in their power to see to it that Hillary was their nominee, and is doing everything they can, including using the left leaning media, to see to it that she becomes President. And with all of that, the polls still only have her slightly ahead of Trump. Imagine what the polls would look like if this was actually a fair race?

PS I hate Trump, but the fact is that the democratic process is not working in this election. It was rigged in favor of Hillary over Bernie, and it's rigged now.
Imagine what the polls would be like if Trumps mouth wasn't so big? He is his own worse enemy.

Don't disagree Rich, but that just goes to show how desperate this country is for a change. That so many people are willing to vote for Trump in spite of his mouth, his transgressions, his lack of experience, etc. etc. etc. Hey I don't like the guy(although I am a Republican and will vote for him), but I completely understand why so man people find him so appealing.

Trump is so totally unskilled as a candidate that he helps his opponents continually, but make no mistake, if Pope Francis was runninh Democrats would still demonize him. In fact, reading Podestas private leaked emails about Catholic leafership, they already have
 
The GOP did anything and everything in their power to prevent Trump from becoming their nominee, and thus potentially becoming president. The Democratic party has done anything and everything(legal and otherwise) in their power to see to it that Hillary was their nominee, and is doing everything they can, including using the left leaning media, to see to it that she becomes President. And with all of that, the polls still only have her slightly ahead of Trump. Imagine what the polls would look like if this was actually a fair race?

PS I hate Trump, but the fact is that the democratic process is not working in this election. It was rigged in favor of Hillary over Bernie, and it's rigged now.
Imagine what the polls would be like if Trumps mouth wasn't so big? He is his own worse enemy.

So, like many honest Americans wanting good decent, smart leadership, I imagined how much better off we would be if the Republican ticket was flipped and Pence were the prez candidate. Then i awoke from the fantasy and realized that the liberal media and the Clintons would immediately shift the attack and demonize Pence. Im sure they have already loaded up on vitriol in the event Trump dropped out
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top