Spocky Ramone
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The Alinsky playbook is being run cover to cover in this thread!
Nov 8, 2016 - The lesser of two evils?
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All I know is that following the Repubs' cutting /blocking of funds for US Embassies' security worldwide, they spent over $20mm to 'get' Obama/Hillary over Benghazi and have spent well over $100mm since the mid/late 1990s trying to indict the Clintons on something or another...and have come up...blank.
Spending wasn't the problem
http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...farrow-says-inadequate-security-funding-cong/
beast of the east
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How much does an order of "stand down" cost to troops waiting to rescue those besieged in the embassy?
Spocky Ramone
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You missed a few pages...
I was trained in a "post-Alinsky" community organizing model in 1965, where the focus was less on the target goal and more on creating relationships and problem-solving infrastructure. Used to overcome NIMBY resistance to placing drug programs in heroin-overwhelmed communities. Feels like the circle is unbroken.
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More indisputable evidence that the State Department is aiding and abetting Hillary Clinton. Fortunately for Clinton, she doesn't get called on anything, and will recover faster than she recovered from [strike]dizziness, dehydration, the flu[/strike] pneumonia. Or maybe it was a mini-stroke of genius, or a seizure of the moment:
WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy pressured the FBI to unclassify certain emails from Hillary Clinton's private server that were previously deemed classified, according to FBI documents released Monday that cited redacted sources.
In the documents, an unnamed person interviewed by the FBI said Kennedy contacted the FBI to ask for the change in classification in "exchange for a 'quid pro quo.'"
Whether or not Clinton sent classified emails from her private server that could have jeopardized national security has become a key issue ahead of the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 8, when Clinton will face Republican nominee Donald Trump.
WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy pressured the FBI to unclassify certain emails from Hillary Clinton's private server that were previously deemed classified, according to FBI documents released Monday that cited redacted sources.
In the documents, an unnamed person interviewed by the FBI said Kennedy contacted the FBI to ask for the change in classification in "exchange for a 'quid pro quo.'"
Whether or not Clinton sent classified emails from her private server that could have jeopardized national security has become a key issue ahead of the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 8, when Clinton will face Republican nominee Donald Trump.
I am a tech guy and there is no reason to have a 'private' server unless she was trying to hide something. How she was allowed this is beyond comprehension. I can't vote for her but I just wish Trump would tone it down a bit so I don't seem so crazy in voting for him
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I am a tech guy and there is no reason to have a 'private' server unless she was trying to hide something. How she was allowed this is beyond comprehension. I can't vote for her but I just wish Trump would tone it down a bit so I don't seem so crazy in voting for him
He is far from the ideal campaigner, but i can't tolerate Elizabeth Warren going hormonal on him when she totally misrepresented herself as a native American to get affirmative action admission to college and employment. Then she shrieks that Trump stole form people when she got rich stealing homeowners titles to their homes buy buying tax liens for as little as a few hundred dollars, using a system that had her gain the titles to their homes without them even knowing it. You have Hillary calling Trump disgusting for unwanted advances, when her husband had unwanted sexual activity, including an alleged rape of Juanita Broderick. You have the Obama's (both of them) calling Trump dirty when they got their home and adjacent property via the benefit of a convicted felon, Tony Rezko. The most that President Clinton and Pres. Obama had in common were that both had absentee fathers, although Obama's could have been arrested for statutory rape and bigamy.
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I am a tech guy and there is no reason to have a 'private' server unless she was trying to hide something. How she was allowed this is beyond comprehension. I can't vote for her but I just wish Trump would tone it down a bit so I don't seem so crazy in voting for him
You don't have to be a "tech guy" to know that the local computer guy setting up an email server in your house is infinitesimally less secure than the Government security on their servers. I work for a tech company, and to bid on some federal government software RFPs in the US and Canada you need FBI clearance and are not allowed direct access to servers even as a qualified vendor. There is absolutely no fathomable or explainable answer why she did this (she couldn't blame this one on Abraham Lincoln), and her response to "be held completely responsible" rings empty when fully responsible would have meant criminal charges and jail time. She knew what she was doing, knew it was illegal, knew there were consequences, but also knew that as long as a Democrat was in the White House there would be no charges.
Powell didnt have a private email server at home
But here is my take since Powell did use private email at times. To me if you want to be a leader you need to learn to lead and that means recognizing when something is wrong and changing it. No one in their right mind could think using private email is ok and I fault Powell too but you are running for president of the United States and when you are SOS you come in and see something that is obviously wrong and then you should lead and fix the issue. I'd get fired in 1 day if I emailed clients business stuff from my home email. 1 day. To say " well my predecessor did it is a cop out and not worthy of leading in my humble opinion ( I'm just talking about this one issue not any Trump stuff )
And then when you set up a private server at home it's freaking mindggling to the 10th degree
To me personally while it might not be a big deal to others the email thing to me is a huge deal
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...y-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/
I don't mind the personal emails because even at my company even though we have IM a lot of people use the email sometimes for personal emails.
But work stuff on private emails and setting up your own server at home is unforgivable and incompetent. If the doc emails an get hacked Hillary's server can't get hack ? Freaking nonsense. Plus who is to say someone didnt just get her password which I had read that she never changed. I have to change my password at work something like once every 90 days
She has no leadership qualities when it comes to this
I go back to an old saying my father used to use when I was a kid when other friends were doing things that I wasn't allowed to or they had stuff that I wanted but my parents wouldn't get for me because they wanted me to learn that nothing in life is handed to you
they would say " if so and so jumped off the brooklyn bridge would you do so also ? " the moral of it was be a leader and not a follower
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That is a distraction to this issue. Here we have perhaps the second most powerful person in the world handling our most sensitive correspondence through a virtually unsecured server where our worst adversaries who would do us harm could most easily attack and gain this sensitive knowledge. If she was unaware of this she doesn't have the brains to be President. If she was aware of this and did it anyway, she is a criminal who compromised national security. Voters that don't care about this demonstrates a naivete about telecommunications and how vulnerable classified correspondence that is left unsecured leaves us open to espionage and jeopardizes our national security. And Clinton and her operatives (including the media) want us to do is focus on where Wikileaks is getting there information from, and not the actual content. Excuse me, they aren't the assholes, they are brilliant manipulators of their follower's conscience and thought - those who think this is small potatoes are the really misguided folk.
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