Nov 8, 2016 - The lesser of two evils?
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Re the pussy thing, it's not about what he said it's about what he said he did. What he said he did is sexual assault, leveraging his power to cop a feel or worse, and given that there have been multiple accusations of rape against him I do imagine it's probably much worse.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ld-trump_us_57ee5879e4b0c2407cdd4c92?section=
All pre pussygate by the way. Mostly immaterial to the billion other reasons he would be a nightmare POTUS. Agree with those saying Hillary is incredibly lucky.
All pre pussygate by the way. Mostly immaterial to the billion other reasons he would be a nightmare POTUS. Agree with those saying Hillary is incredibly lucky.
The first time I could vote for President was in 1988. Bush Sr. Vs. Dukakis. I had a hard time choosing a candidate because neither had any appeal to an 18 year old. There have been other candidates in the last six elections that have not been appealing but these two take it to another level. As a middle aged man now I am embarrassed for today's 18 year olds. This is a real shame.
Forget luck, she has the left wing media as an arm of her propaganda machine. And even with that invaluable tool, she is barely going to beat him. That's how pathetic she is. But don't hate Trump, hate the current administration and the liberal policies that they have put in place which created the Trump phenomenon.
We are the same age. 88 was my first election and literally the last time I voted for a president that won the election
88 Bush Sr
92 Bush Sr
96 Dole
00 Gore
04 Kerry
08 McCsin
12 Romney
16 As of now Trump unless some even more ridiculous news comes out on him but no matter what I'm not voting for Hillary
I went to the Dukakis rally at St. John's and was very close to him while he talked. I remember thinking that he was a good talker but then looked like a lost deer otherwise. He was a strange duck but felt the same way about the two as you. Was not a fan of Bush Sr.
OTOH check out the speech by Ronald Reagan at St. John's to give some perspective on presidents as well as where St Johns was then vs now.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=38403
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Speaking of, perhaps the most laughable lie among the thousands that Hillary has told over the years that while explaining in a paid speech that politicians have a private agenda (wink wink - get it guys) and a public one (I hate Wall Street) was her commentary on the Abraham Lincoln movie is perhaps the funniest one yet. At least she didn't say she was speaking about the movie that caused a spontaneous riot that killed 4 in Banghazi. Perhaps the order of "Stand down", uttered multiple times to our troops as they waited for orders to rescue the besieiged embassy was Hillary actually telling the people in front of her at the movie Lincoln, to sit in their seats.
Trump is just disgusting. Hillary is disgusting, a liar, and evil, power hungry inept witch.
Trump is an arrogant buffoon. Hillary is a despicable human being, along with everything else you've said. She is beyond wretched. I know enough democrats who are connected to her who have said the same thing to me about her for years. Conversely, I have worked in Manhattan real estate and construction for 36 years and the Trump you see before you is the real Trump(for better or worse). But even if you put aside all of the personality flaws of the two, I cannot vote for her for ideological reasons. I do not like the direction of our country under the current administration, she is part of the current administration. Additionally she is part of the "old Washington guard". The same people who voted for Obama because they were tired of the old guard, are so many of the same people who are now backing Hillary. Its time for a change. Trump is far from my ideal candidate, but of the two he is the only one with the potential to make a positive change in this country.
I'll be happy we have the liberal media and current admin if that's ok with you. But you are obviously in denial about what brought about the Trump phenomena. It's the GOP validating the tea party that fractured the party beyond repair. Add to that the fact that they have so little control that they allowed 16 candidates to be part of the primary process, that very much damaged their chance at a valid candidate. It WAS fun to watch though.
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The Republican party is far less effective at circling the wagons and putting out covert memos for talking points. Even the DNC conspired to quell Bernie Sander's surge by trying to manipulate the results. Take away super delegates and their manipulation , which help ensure that the DNC gets the candidate they want, and Sanders wins the nomination, but likely not the election.
Trump IMO is a manifestation of Obama. Obama announced his candidacy after only 153 days as the junior Senator from Illinois. He wouldn't have even gotten as far as Senator if Governor Rod Blagojevich han't put the office up for sale in typical sleezy Illinois politics. In no time flat Senator Obama was peddling influence, and Obama bought a large home with the help of Tony Rezko, now a convicted felon. Rezko, who routinely bought influence in Illinois politics, found the home for Obama and his wife. The only problem was, the house and the adjacent lot were being sold as a package by a physician who wanted to sell them together, for $1.95 million for the house alone. Obama wanted both, but couldn't afford them. Enter Rezko, who had his wife buy the lot for $625,000. He then turned around and sold 10 feet of it to Obama for $10,000, making the lot undevelopable - a nice little gift for future underhanded dealings. But I digress:http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/289529/
Obama was (and is) so unprepared to be a commander in chief that Americans reason that no experience necessary is okay for the Presidency. At least Trump has thousands of people reporting to him. Obama never managed so much as a staff at McDonalds. At least Trump became rich in the private sector. Hillary is magically worth $250 million without having worked in the private sector in more than 40 years.
The Dem party would never allowed 16 candidates to enter the primary run. The Republican party rules allowed both Trump and Cruz to differentiate themselves - Trump as the ultimate outsider, Cruz as the true conservative. Basically the rest were a bunch of moderates and a couple of outsiders trying to gain traction.
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What the Democratic party does extremely well is create subterfuge. Wikileaks releases thousands of damaging emails, and the Clinton campaign responds not by answering them, but by saying it is the Russian hackers trying to sway the election (where there is absolutely not a shred of evidence indicating so). She is caught red handed telling a private audience that you have to have a private and public position (so I can help you guys by appearing to be attacking you guys), and perpetrates a wild tale (even for her).
She will probably win, and the best Americans can hope for is that whatever medical condition she truly has - epilepsy, a blood clot on her brain, mini strokes (TIA's) (all far more likely than pneumonia from which she miraculously recovered from in less than 2 hours kills her before she takes office.
On the plus side for those looking for hope and change (not the same old same old Obama delivered instead) can realize the the 6-11 point Clinton lead is only half that when you realize that if Trump picks up 3-6%, Clinton drops 3-6%.
In the meantime, this beautifully saggy nearly 70 year old grandma in failing health who advocates women rights has raked in hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to the Clinton foundation from foreign countries who torture and murders gays, allow the rape of women and deny them all rights, and are the worst human rights violators on the planet. Go figure.
She will probably win, and the best Americans can hope for is that whatever medical condition she truly has - epilepsy, a blood clot on her brain, mini strokes (TIA's) (all far more likely than pneumonia from which she miraculously recovered from in less than 2 hours kills her before she takes office.
On the plus side for those looking for hope and change (not the same old same old Obama delivered instead) can realize the the 6-11 point Clinton lead is only half that when you realize that if Trump picks up 3-6%, Clinton drops 3-6%.
In the meantime, this beautifully saggy nearly 70 year old grandma in failing health who advocates women rights has raked in hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to the Clinton foundation from foreign countries who torture and murders gays, allow the rape of women and deny them all rights, and are the worst human rights violators on the planet. Go figure.
Beastie, in our public and private discussions we have shared our lesser of two evils differences. The bottom line for me as evidenced by Trump on Sunday night, and now portrayed as a quip, was the special prosecutor, you'd be in jail routine. Wielding the power of the state against individuals for private purposes was manifested most notably by President Nixon and his henchmen. Nixon was a lot brighter than Trump.
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