Nov 8, 2016 - The lesser of two evils?

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Panther, ask many of the men and women of law enforcement how much better off they are over the last 8 years......glad you are enjoying life, many aren't and that's not to say life will be peaches and cream under trump. But like 8 years ago many people want change

Police officer deaths during GWB's 8 year term: 1,212, So far during Obama's term: 1,062. And yes I have NYPD officers in my family and know how hard the job is but just quoting facts.
As far as total deaths I agree the trend is lower although Bush did lose something like 60 on 9/11

To me the thing to be concerned about and I'm not blaming Obama but Police Officer deaths by shootings are up this year markedly over last year

My brother used to work in a really bad area of Brooklyn and then he finally moved to aviation probably 10 years ago and then after he moved his partner was murdered while working. Now even as a helicopter pilot you aren't out of the woods because there are these jackoffs trying to blind him and the other pilots with the laser pointers. Literally just happened again a couple of days ago to him from some asshole they caught doing it before. Luckily my brother spotted him and put the spotlights on him so police on the ground could arrest the f*ck

http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/man-who-pointed-laser-at-nypd-helicopter-is-a-repeat-offender/

G d bless your brother and his partner as well as every other member of our law enforcement and military. Hope they throw the book at that piece of crap and that he rots in jail for a long time. His actions could have killed two officers.
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".

So that is were the bar is set for you to "give him a chance"? Short of that are you hoping he fails? Not compare you to the protesters and many others on the left, but my feeling is that there is absolutely nothing he can do or say that would be good enough for many on the left to "give him a chance". But just my opinion. FWIW I work in a blue collar industry, and I have spoken to many blue collar minorities since the election. Pretty much to person they did not vote for Donald Trump but are willing to give Donald Trump a chance. Yet so many of the white, white collar Dems that I know are not. Go figure.

The mensheviks like to talk about revolution and preserve their comforts. The Bolsheviks revolt.
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".
You'll be pleased that Trump and Ryan issued a statement claiming the above sentiments and extreme fringe groups will have no place in the administration or republican party. However, strangely it's not mentioned in the ny times, daily news, or huffington post. Hmm, wonder why?

Was this right before or after the Bannon appointment? LOL

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".
You'll be pleased that Trump and Ryan issued a statement claiming the above sentiments and extreme fringe groups will have no place in the administration or republican party. However, strangely it's not mentioned in the ny times, daily news, or huffington post. Hmm, wonder why?

Was this right before or after the Bannon appointment? LOL

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Seriously. If he is actually committed to unifying, how is Stephen Bannon the right choice? Bannon is about as polarizing a figure as you can find. Not helpful. To me, this is shows that Trump does not understand the enormity of the divide he has to address.
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".
You'll be pleased that Trump and Ryan issued a statement claiming the above sentiments and extreme fringe groups will have no place in the administration or republican party. However, strangely it's not mentioned in the ny times, daily news, or huffington post. Hmm, wonder why?

Was this right before or after the Bannon appointment? LOL

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Seriously. If he is actually committed to unifying, how is Stephen Bannon the right choice? Bannon is about as polarizing a figure as you can find. Not helpful. To me, this is shows that Trump does not understand the enormity of the divide he has to address.
F**k the divide,
Fix the country!
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".
You'll be pleased that Trump and Ryan issued a statement claiming the above sentiments and extreme fringe groups will have no place in the administration or republican party. However, strangely it's not mentioned in the ny times, daily news, or huffington post. Hmm, wonder why?

Was this right before or after the Bannon appointment? LOL

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Seriously. If he is actually committed to unifying, how is Stephen Bannon the right choice? Bannon is about as polarizing a figure as you can find. Not helpful. To me, this is shows that Trump does not understand the enormity of the divide he has to address.
F**k the divide,
Fix the country!

I believe the divide is part of what's broken.
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".
You'll be pleased that Trump and Ryan issued a statement claiming the above sentiments and extreme fringe groups will have no place in the administration or republican party. However, strangely it's not mentioned in the ny times, daily news, or huffington post. Hmm, wonder why?

Was this right before or after the Bannon appointment? LOL

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Seriously. If he is actually committed to unifying, how is Stephen Bannon the right choice? Bannon is about as polarizing a figure as you can find. Not helpful. To me, this is shows that Trump does not understand the enormity of the divide he has to address.
F**k the divide,
Fix the country!

I believe the divide is part of what's broken.

So when the racist Sharpton made his weekly visit to the white house for the last 8 years , you were ok with that.
When Mrs. Obama spoke at an all black college , "Agitate, agitate, agitate" you were ok with that.
When BLM is counseled by Obama, and still posts on their website that the murder of cops is "justice", you were ok with that. ect. ect. ect.
I could go on and on, but i learned that in this country the schools and the media have an unwritten law that only white people can be racist. Which allows the left to basically lie cheat and steal, and then cry "racist".
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".
You'll be pleased that Trump and Ryan issued a statement claiming the above sentiments and extreme fringe groups will have no place in the administration or republican party. However, strangely it's not mentioned in the ny times, daily news, or huffington post. Hmm, wonder why?

Was this right before or after the Bannon appointment? LOL

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Seriously. If he is actually committed to unifying, how is Stephen Bannon the right choice? Bannon is about as polarizing a figure as you can find. Not helpful. To me, this is shows that Trump does not understand the enormity of the divide he has to address.
F**k the divide,
Fix the country!

I believe the divide is part of what's broken.

So when the racist Sharpton made his weekly visit to the white house for the last 8 years , you were ok with that.
When Mrs. Obama spoke at an all black college , "Agitate, agitate, agitate" you were ok with that.
When BLM is counseled by Obama, and still posts on their website that the murder of cops is "justice", you were ok with that. ect. ect. ect.
I could go on and on, but i learned that in this country the schools and the media have an unwritten law that only white people can be racist. Which allows the left to basically lie cheat and steal, and then cry "racist".

I don't think I have any chance of getting you to see my point. While you are desperately trying prove who is right and who is wrong, I am pointing out a presidential appointment (Bannon) that is sure to cause further unrest. For a guy who claims he is trying to unify (which is the correct thing to do right now), he just made the worst possible selection. This appointment will only serve to affirm everything Trump's detractors believe.
 
One final point from me. If Trump supporters would like to see everyone unify and give him a chance, I have a suggestion. Trump should immediately come out and say something like the following:

"I do genuinely want to be a president for all. During my campaign, I made many unfortunate and admittedly divisive comments that do not reflect the way I intend to govern. For the record, I unequivocally reject racism, sexism, antisemitism or any policy that facilitates inequality. I look forward to proving this to all those who were rightfully offended by comments that actually have no place in this country"

If he is not big enough to do something like this, people who do reject these ugly sentiments (including me) will not "give him a chance".
You'll be pleased that Trump and Ryan issued a statement claiming the above sentiments and extreme fringe groups will have no place in the administration or republican party. However, strangely it's not mentioned in the ny times, daily news, or huffington post. Hmm, wonder why?

Was this right before or after the Bannon appointment? LOL

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Seriously. If he is actually committed to unifying, how is Stephen Bannon the right choice? Bannon is about as polarizing a figure as you can find. Not helpful. To me, this is shows that Trump does not understand the enormity of the divide he has to address.
F**k the divide,
Fix the country!

I believe the divide is part of what's broken.

So when the racist Sharpton made his weekly visit to the white house for the last 8 years , you were ok with that.
When Mrs. Obama spoke at an all black college , "Agitate, agitate, agitate" you were ok with that.
When BLM is counseled by Obama, and still posts on their website that the murder of cops is "justice", you were ok with that. ect. ect. ect.
I could go on and on, but i learned that in this country the schools and the media have an unwritten law that only white people can be racist. Which allows the left to basically lie cheat and steal, and then cry "racist".

I don't think I have any chance of getting you to see my point. While you are desperately trying prove who is right and who is wrong, I am pointing out a presidential appointment (Bannon) that is sure to cause further unrest. For a guy who claims he is trying to unify (which is the correct thing to do right now), he just made the worst possible selection. This appointment will only serve to affirm everything Trump's detractors believe.
90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.
 
If he was so toxic, don't you think hill and company would of pounced on that? After all he and Conway were running the campaign for the last few months. But no the truth is it's the only thing the left can grasp at right now and next week it'll be another reason to keep the I'll informed riled up.
 
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90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.

SO the fact that 90% of the electorate are uninformed dolts, and you'll get no argument from me on that, makes the appointment of an anti-Semitic, racist leader of the largest media supporter of the white nationalist movement okay? I'm just a little confused by what you're trying to say.
 
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90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.

SO the fact that 90% of the electorate are uninformed dolts, and you'll get no argument from me on that, makes the appointment of an anti-Semitic, racist leader of the largest media supporter of the white nationalist movement okay? I'm just a little confused by what you're trying to say.

Oh, you must mean that white nationalist movement of people who want jobs, not handouts; that white nationalist movement that included more blacks and Hispanics than voted for Romney? Still waiting to hear what Obama / Clinton did for minorities in 8 years other than con them but the left was too busy at their cocktail parties plotting to end this democracy and counting minority votes that never came. The brainwashing continues.
 
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90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.

SO the fact that 90% of the electorate are uninformed dolts, and you'll get no argument from me on that, makes the appointment of an anti-Semitic, racist leader of the largest media supporter of the white nationalist movement okay? I'm just a little confused by what you're trying to say.
Just that people aren't going to be like "Bannon got an appointment? Get the torches and pitchforks!"

Not knowing the cabinet positions makes a dolt uninformed. I don't think the same holds true for not knowing Bannon.

I know lots of very well informed dolts. I'm confident you do as well.
 
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90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.

SO the fact that 90% of the electorate are uninformed dolts, and you'll get no argument from me on that, makes the appointment of an anti-Semitic, racist leader of the largest media supporter of the white nationalist movement okay? I'm just a little confused by what you're trying to say.
Just that people aren't going to be like "Bannon got an appointment? Get the torches and pitchforks!"

Not knowing the cabinet positions makes a dolt uninformed. I don't think the same holds true for not knowing Bannon.

I know lots of very well informed dolts. I'm confident you do as well.
And, for the record, I offered no personal opinion about Bannon, it was about society. I would not even consider him. Please don't read between lines when there's no space.
 
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90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.

SO the fact that 90% of the electorate are uninformed dolts, and you'll get no argument from me on that, makes the appointment of an anti-Semitic, racist leader of the largest media supporter of the white nationalist movement okay? I'm just a little confused by what you're trying to say.

Oh, you must mean that white nationalist movement of people who want jobs, not handouts; that white nationalist movement that included more blacks and Hispanics than voted for Romney? Still waiting to hear what Obama / Clinton did for minorities in 8 years other than con them but the left was too busy at their cocktail parties plotting to end this democracy and counting minority votes that never came. The brainwashing continues.

Have you ever been to Breitbart? I want you to have jobs. I'm not complaining about the fact we lost. I'm just mentioning that Trump just named someone thisclose to being a Nazi as his chief strategist. Just saying.

And trust me I have no problem believing that some of you might even sympathize with the white nationalist movement, but the few of you who might do so have to be smart enough to understand that such leanings and intentions would be best kept in the shadows at this point, by the administration.
 
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90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.

SO the fact that 90% of the electorate are uninformed dolts, and you'll get no argument from me on that, makes the appointment of an anti-Semitic, racist leader of the largest media supporter of the white nationalist movement okay? I'm just a little confused by what you're trying to say.
Just that people aren't going to be like "Bannon got an appointment? Get the torches and pitchforks!"

Not knowing the cabinet positions makes a dolt uninformed. I don't think the same holds true for not knowing Bannon.

I know lots of very well informed dolts. I'm confident you do as well.
And, for the record, I offered no personal opinion about Bannon, it was about society. I would not even consider him. Please don't read between lines when there's no space.

That's why I said I was a little confused. But your follow up posts made it clearer for me. Thanks.

Oh and yes, I'm sure we all do. Being informed and having the ability to understand the information are also two separate characteristics.
 
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90% of a people have never heard of Bannon or the position to which he is being appointed.

SO the fact that 90% of the electorate are uninformed dolts, and you'll get no argument from me on that, makes the appointment of an anti-Semitic, racist leader of the largest media supporter of the white nationalist movement okay? I'm just a little confused by what you're trying to say.

Oh, you must mean that white nationalist movement of people who want jobs, not handouts; that white nationalist movement that included more blacks and Hispanics than voted for Romney? Still waiting to hear what Obama / Clinton did for minorities in 8 years other than con them but the left was too busy at their cocktail parties plotting to end this democracy and counting minority votes that never came. The brainwashing continues.

Have you ever been to Breitbart? I want you to have jobs. I'm not complaining about the fact we lost. I'm just mentioning that Trump just named someone thisclose to being a Nazi as his chief strategist. Just saying.

And trust me I have no problem believing that some of you might even sympathize with the white nationalist movement, but the few of you who might do so have to be smart enough to understand that such leanings and intentions would be best kept in the shadows at this point, by the administration.

You know, I try to be restrained on this topic, but liberals love comparing Republicans to Hitler and Nazis. Trump was compared to Hitler by some during his campaign and now you are comparing one of his appointees to a Nazi.

Let's roll it back to 2012, after the DNC removed a line from its platform that supported Israel as the capital of Israel. Once presented, the party platform could only be approved by proclamation at the Democratic National Convention. Here is what happened when the resolution was read. So it's funny that liberals compare Republicans to Nazis, but without US support of Israel, almost for certain Israel would be destroyed by its enemies such as Iran (who promises repeatedly to bomb Israel) or Palestine, who won't be happy until Jerusalem is in its sole possession.

 
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