Panther, ask many of the men and women of law enforcement how much better off they are over the last 8 years......glad you are enjoying life, many aren't and that's not to say life will be peaches and cream under trump. But like 8 years ago many people want change
I understand about police, have some family and friends in law enforcement. I only asked the people on this board. Strange that no one has stated how their life has been destroyed over the past 8 years. Just something to think about.
I've done okay the past 8 years, but it was due to a culmination of the effort I've put in over the prior 20 plus years, and not anything to do with any leadership or legislative action coming from Washington. If anything the poor economy prevented me from having certain business successes because of budget challenged municipalities and businesses that I would work with. Your question is narrow and myopic, because in my middle class community neighbors in the 50s on either side of my home both lost good paying jobs and were unable to recover. One sold his house and moved away to a place with lower taxes and a smaller home. The other has banged around in a succession of jobs, enduring low pay, and stretches of unemployment. I know many people like this above the age of 50. I know many college graduates mired in pt jobs, and unable to secure employment in a field related to their majors. Only the cream of the crop are getting good jobs out of college.
I'm not sure where your question is rooted? Is it the liberal elite that looks at their successes and thinks everything is ok, even in our poorest neighborhoods where unemployment is soaring, a good job is a security job at Walmarts, and welfare and food stamps programs have wildly expanded over the past 8 years? Or is it just a more limited view, as in, I'm doing okay, so I guess things are really pretty good?
In answer to your condescending remarks, the loss of jobs and business being sent overseas did not start with Obama, it started with Bush. The decimation of union labor started under Bush. We are still dealing with the fallout of runaway Capitalism started under Bush. I am definitely not as eloquent as you, but I am more realistic.
I am not defending Obama, just stated that I did not understand the amount of animosity shown towards him by the members of this board.
In closing, I would like to commend you on the concern that you have for all the members of our society. Peace & Blessings.
I understand your anger and frustration. The blame game after 8 years of Obama still pointing the finger at Bush angered enough Americans that it helped Trump.
You are a good man, (and a great SJU Fan) so don't take my comments personally. They aren't meant to be.
Let's not be totally foolish here. Outsourcing here was a not a Bush initiative, it has been largely the result of improved and cheap telecommunications that allowed remote workers to be in other countries at a lower cost. My company has hired foreign workers since the late 90's, but I wouldn't blame Clinton for that. Bush was not a shill for big banks and Wall Street. He didn't accept millions in payoffs (in the form of ridiculous speaking fees) for access to the state department. He didn't speak out of both sides of his mouth promising to reel in Wall Street, while privately telling them you need to have a public and private face (wink wink, Abraham Lincoln)
The first time I heard Obama speak, in 2007, I thought he was a breath of fresh air. Then stuff about his past stuff surfacing, such as dealings with Tony Rezko, that he sealed his so called prestigious academic records (that someday will reveal a very average guy), and other quesitonable dealings and relationships (Bill Ayres, Rev. Wright).
Obama speaks a good game, but the only problem is that he is another guy who will totally lie through his teeth whenever convenient. He will tell people "Obama created jobs. Obama gave you healthcare. Obama fixed the economy". Meanwhile he publicly said "I found out about Hillary's private email account when you did", but only a couple of weeks ago, Wikileaks revealed that he communicated to that account with a private email account of his own. Chicago lying politician.
When he came out stumping for Clinton, he threw around such vitriol that he looked remarkably unpresidential. Certainly in the last 50 years and likely much further, no sitting President came out slinging such mud against a candidate that now will succeed him. My guess is that he had a Supreme Court nomination waiting for him.
Don't worry though. Obama will not leave the public stage. There will be public schools named after him, speaking engagements (paid) everywhere, and he will speaking loudly against Republicans for his entire life. Look for Michelle to enter politics soon, and perhaps become first woman President.
All in all, all the stuff coming from the left completely turned off most of the US, except for the Northeast, Illinois, California and liberal Pacific northwest, and isolated pockets around the country. Just about everywhere else, the vote was solidly red.
Huge sums of money spent, a great ground game, a compliant liberal mainstream media, and all kind of shenanigans behind the scenes couldn't overcome the incredible dislike for the shrill, corrupt, and criminal Hillary.
For her sake Trump and the justice dept (maybe Rudy as Attorney General) will likely back off criminal charges to let the nation heal. It won't, but I bet that will be the plan.
