Nov 8, 2016 - The lesser of two evils?

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Wait, I have already seen this episode.

Let me guess.....Democrat wins and republicans continue to obstruct . At least another four years of the American people being hijacked by selfish congressmen devoid of any character.

Hillary is awful.

Trump is an offensive, incapable, ignorant narcissist.

The Republican Party is completely defective. A joke. They STILL don't understand the pathway to winning a national election and will continue to lose until they do. After losing two straight elections because they couldn't make a dent with minority voters, they nominate a guy who offends them all. huh?

This is not about the Republican Party or Donald Trump; in reality, this is about electing to the White House what is essentially a crime family, or are you more offended by a guy who puts his foot in his mouth or a woman who has been, along with her husband, orchestrating a crime wave, leaving people to die, stealing and lying virtually every time she opens her mouth. Me, I'll take the political incorrectness over the John Gotti without the gun any day. By the way, political correctness BS aside, what has Obama, Clinton, or the Democrats done for minorities other than con them?

I assume you mean besides the 50% drop in unemployment despite GOP led austerity budgets cutting more than 634,000 public service jobs.

Stop with your statistical BS nonsense. If you can't see how corrupt Washington is regardless of party, how corrupt the Clintons are, how very broken our political system is, you are with all due respect, just brainwashed and living in a fantasy world. These people are beyond hope, corrupt to the core. I would like a better choice than Trump but maybe there is no Washington outsider who would have had a chance, who could remaining standing to the evil of the Washington elite and the even more evil media.
 
Wait, I have already seen this episode.

Let me guess.....Democrat wins and republicans continue to obstruct . At least another four years of the American people being hijacked by selfish congressmen devoid of any character.

Hillary is awful.

Trump is an offensive, incapable, ignorant narcissist.

The Republican Party is completely defective. A joke. They STILL don't understand the pathway to winning a national election and will continue to lose until they do. After losing two straight elections because they couldn't make a dent with minority voters, they nominate a guy who offends them all. huh?

This is not about the Republican Party or Donald Trump; in reality, this is about electing to the White House what is essentially a crime family, or are you more offended by a guy who puts his foot in his mouth or a woman who has been, along with her husband, orchestrating a crime wave, leaving people to die, stealing and lying virtually every time she opens her mouth. Me, I'll take the political incorrectness over the John Gotti without the gun any day. By the way, political correctness BS aside, what has Obama, Clinton, or the Democrats done for minorities other than con them?

I assume you mean besides the 50% drop in unemployment despite GOP led austerity budgets cutting more than 634,000 public service jobs.

Here's what really offends me. You see, I am a Democrat at heart, at least what I believed to be principals of the Democratic party I joined when I turned 18.

Liberals today create this spin that they don't believe themselves, in an attempt to delude the public at large. Are you really so ignorant to believe that minorities have had their unemployment sliced in half as a result of the Obama administration's initiatives? Of course not, because no one can even name an initiative of Obama to help put minorities in meaningful careers, at least without internet research and a perversion of the truth.

You see, I pay attention and am disgusted. I'm disgusted when I go to a McDonald's and see black kids working the fry station, handling a mop, or otherwise in the back of the place, not even at the register or God forbid, managing operations. I travel to the predominately black Caribbean, and rarely see black waiters in restaurants, where tips are to be made. I worked in a hospital in Harlem, where white kids without degrees are sent to engineering for training in high paying skilled jobs and black kids sent to the mailroom. In my own office building, on the maintenance staff the only black worker is a porter, an older dignified respectful man who cleans toilets for living. I make sure always to treat him with the level of respect typivcally afforded to those in higher positions.

Liberals could give a crap about the plight of minorities in America. Not all liberals, mind you. There are many on here I converse with civilly, because we have shared ideals and we don't pervert the truth.

In this case, the truth is that only 41% of able bodied black youth are employed, which is lower than that of white youth, even if unemployment is measured by those seeking employment. Even then, the unemployment rates for 16-24 black kids seeking employment is registered at over 9% much higher than for whites.

Let's not even go to salary disparity for blacks and whites. Yea, things are so improved, right? Your obfuscation is disgusting.

Maybe I should switch back to being Democrat just to call out the Liberal leadership for their disingenuous, self serving, criminal, corrupt behavior. Too many "democratic hearted" people like myself have fled the party, allowing despicable and corrupt individuals like the Clintons and Obamas to masquerade as leaders representing the poor and disenfranchised.
 
Beast of the East do you believe in abortion in the 9th month?
Do you believe in the President illegal laws through executive orders?
Do you believe in a Supreme Court that makes Law and diverts the balance of power ?
Do you believe in the constant handouts by the Dems to buy votes ?
Don't you want the black youth to obtain jobs and get promotions instead of handouts ? Handouts will keep them in the streets . Remember it is better to give than receive, because you have to give.
I feel sorry for anyone who votes democrat.
 
Beast of the East do you believe in abortion in the 9th month?
Do you believe in the President illegal laws through executive orders?
Do you believe in a Supreme Court that makes Law and diverts the balance of power ?
Do you believe in the constant handouts by the Dems to buy votes ?
Don't you want the black youth to obtain jobs and get promotions instead of handouts ? Handouts will keep them in the streets . Remember it is better to give than receive, because you have to give.
I feel sorry for anyone who votes democrat.

I believe you know the answers:

1) I don't believe in abortion in the 1st month. I don't believe in birth control that dislodges a fertilized egg from the placenta. To me, life begins at conception, because in part any other distinction is arbitrary. It's archaic to believe it magically becomes a life at birth, or when brain waves are measure, or a heartbeat, or you can count fingers.

2) This corrupt President has ignored the constitution many times during this presidency to misuse executive powers. He has also threatened the Supreme Court, and wants the Court to legislate form the bench.

3) I pay an incredible amount of taxes and do not begrudge a penny of it if it is used to help those who can't help themselves or to help people help themselves. Entitlements under this administration are used to make the Democratic tent larger - period

4) See my above post. A man who takes handouts his entire life loses self respect, to the point that he doesn't value life - even his own. It's a reason I believe that so many young black men are victims of violence and are in prison.
 
Beast of the East do you believe in abortion in the 9th month?
Do you believe in the President illegal laws through executive orders?
Do you believe in a Supreme Court that makes Law and diverts the balance of power ?
Do you believe in the constant handouts by the Dems to buy votes ?
Don't you want the black youth to obtain jobs and get promotions instead of handouts ? Handouts will keep them in the streets . Remember it is better to give than receive, because you have to give.
I feel sorry for anyone who votes democrat.

I believe you know the answers:

1) I don't believe in abortion in the 1st month. I don't believe in birth control that dislodges a fertilized egg from the placenta. To me, life begins at conception, because in part any other distinction is arbitrary. It's archaic to believe it magically becomes a life at birth, or when brain waves are measure, or a heartbeat, or you can count fingers.

2) This corrupt President has ignored the constitution many times during this presidency to misuse executive powers. He has also threatened the Supreme Court, and wants the Court to legislate form the bench.

3) I pay an incredible amount of taxes and do not begrudge a penny of it if it is used to help those who can't help themselves or to help people help themselves. Entitlements under this administration are used to make the Democratic tent larger - period

4) See my above post. A man who takes handouts his entire life loses self respect, to the point that he doesn't value life - even his own. It's a reason I believe that so many young black men are victims of violence and are in prison.

The claims of excessive executive overreach are part of an exaggerated republican script. Outside of his appointments to the labor relations board, courts have not found him to be stretching presidential authority. The most prominent of the objections seem to come from the those who feel he did not have the authority to mandate a minimum wage increase for federal contract workers. I have my own opinion about this, but it is not a slam dunk either way and will be decided in the courts.

Lastly, as long as we have a congress that prioritizes party over the country and continues to implement gridlock, our presidents (either side) will have choose between accepting stagnation or pushing the envelope. It's a new world.
 
Jjohnny Fan, your candidate will win. Are going to blame Congress again 4 years from now or maybe you might look at a corrupt President who does not negotiate ? How many laws were past by the house and never consider by the senate due to our President and 60 senate rule ?Wish you the best but be realistic some day.
 
Jjohnny Fan, your candidate will win. Are going to blame Congress again 4 years from now or maybe you might look at a corrupt President who does not negotiate ? How many laws were past by the house and never consider by the senate due to our President and 60 senate rule ?Wish you the best but be realistic some day.

Frank didn't we have a POUS who attached signature statements to legislation and then enforced his statement and the legislation be damned?
 
Jjohnny Fan, your candidate will win. Are going to blame Congress again 4 years from now or maybe you might look at a corrupt President who does not negotiate ? How many laws were past by the house and never consider by the senate due to our President and 60 senate rule ?Wish you the best but be realistic some day.

Ah yes, the 60 senate rule. The same rule that conservatives hide behind so they don't have to cast a vote on gun control. It cuts both ways, Frank.

I don't like Hillary and I have many concerns with her impending presidency. But the GOP is a dunce clan. Not to mention Trump.
 
Jjohnny Fan, your candidate will win. Are going to blame Congress again 4 years from now or maybe you might look at a corrupt President who does not negotiate ? How many laws were past by the house and never consider by the senate due to our President and 60 senate rule ?Wish you the best but be realistic some day.

Ah yes, the 60 senate rule. The same rule that conservatives hide behind so they don't have to cast a vote on gun control. It cuts both ways, Frank.

I don't like Hillary and I have many concerns with her impending presidency. But the GOP is a dunce clan. Not to mention Trump.

You went off on the wrong issue. Do you really think gun control is a partisan issue with dems on one side and repubs on the other? I am completely for assault weapons bans, outlawing armor piercing bullets and the like BUT also for stiffening prison sentences for possession of illegal weapons. Republicans aren't committing homicides with unlicensed guns in inner cities and no legislation will stop that.
 
No matter how you.look at this comeys actions have disturbing political overtones.

Either you believe Comey reopened the investigation to damage Clinton, or

Comey closed the investigation after only a week because of enormous pressure from the Obama administration.

As for me the content of the emails undoubtedly points to criminal and corrupt activity so I lean towards the latter.

NEVER in my lifetime has a sitting president campaigned with such vitriol against the opposition party and his continual campaigning despite this criminal investigation is a small clue that comey was going to be silenced
 
My last response, Johnny Fan, the second amendment and not murdering an unborn child is very important to me . I want to protect my family and others from terrorists and for your information I am also against capital punishment . Corrupt Clinton is just the opposite of what is important to me and probably the majority of Americans outside of New York .
 
Jjohnny Fan, your candidate will win. Are going to blame Congress again 4 years from now or maybe you might look at a corrupt President who does not negotiate ? How many laws were past by the house and never consider by the senate due to our President and 60 senate rule ?Wish you the best but be realistic some day.

Ah yes, the 60 senate rule. The same rule that conservatives hide behind so they don't have to cast a vote on gun control. It cuts both ways, Frank.

I don't like Hillary and I have many concerns with her impending presidency. But the GOP is a dunce clan. Not to mention Trump.

You went off on the wrong issue. Do you really think gun control is a partisan issue with dems on one side and repubs on the other? I am completely for assault weapons bans, outlawing armor piercing bullets and the like BUT also for stiffening prison sentences for possession of illegal weapons. Republicans aren't committing homicides with unlicensed guns in inner cities and no legislation will stop that.

Agree with you. So many of the same people who are touting stricter gun laws, are opposed to stiffer sentences for illegal possession . Can't have it both ways and expect to deal with the problem effectively. The left doesn't seem to get that though. Or maybe they do get it, but saying so is bad for business(aka votes).
 
My last response, Johnny Fan, the second amendment and not murdering an unborn child is very important to me . I want to protect my family and others from terrorists and for your information I am also against capital punishment . Corrupt Clinton is just the opposite of what is important to me and probably the majority of Americans outside of New York .

That's fair, and you will vote accordingly. I disagree with you, but I don't doubt that you're informed and genuine in your stance.
 
Jjohnny Fan, your candidate will win. Are going to blame Congress again 4 years from now or maybe you might look at a corrupt President who does not negotiate ? How many laws were past by the house and never consider by the senate due to our President and 60 senate rule ?Wish you the best but be realistic some day.

Ah yes, the 60 senate rule. The same rule that conservatives hide behind so they don't have to cast a vote on gun control. It cuts both ways, Frank.

I don't like Hillary and I have many concerns with her impending presidency. But the GOP is a dunce clan. Not to mention Trump.

You went off on the wrong issue. Do you really think gun control is a partisan issue with dems on one side and repubs on the other? I am completely for assault weapons bans, outlawing armor piercing bullets and the like BUT also for stiffening prison sentences for possession of illegal weapons. Republicans aren't committing homicides with unlicensed guns in inner cities and no legislation will stop that.

I support both as well. However, we both know that the NRA will not let one of their republican puppets even hint at an assault weapons ban. It's a heckuv a lot easier to find a democrat willing to support stiffer illegal possession penalties.
 
Jjohnny Fan, your candidate will win. Are going to blame Congress again 4 years from now or maybe you might look at a corrupt President who does not negotiate ? How many laws were past by the house and never consider by the senate due to our President and 60 senate rule ?Wish you the best but be realistic some day.

Ah yes, the 60 senate rule. The same rule that conservatives hide behind so they don't have to cast a vote on gun control. It cuts both ways, Frank.

I don't like Hillary and I have many concerns with her impending presidency. But the GOP is a dunce clan. Not to mention Trump.

You went off on the wrong issue. Do you really think gun control is a partisan issue with dems on one side and repubs on the other? I am completely for assault weapons bans, outlawing armor piercing bullets and the like BUT also for stiffening prison sentences for possession of illegal weapons. Republicans aren't committing homicides with unlicensed guns in inner cities and no legislation will stop that.

I support both as well. However, we both know that the NRA will not let one of their republican puppets even hint at an assault weapons ban. It's a heckuv a lot easier to find a democrat willing to support stiffer illegal possession penalties.

OK this is one of my pet peeves. Everyone says "We must ban assault weapons" and have no idea why just because they look scary. You can do just as much damage with a gloc or a 45 but because they are not precieved to be as dangerous that is ok. A good hunting rifle packs more punch and is more accurate and how about a 50 cal barret that can punch a hole through a wall. So lets sing kumbaya and make everyone feel better without really doing anything to solve the problem. Register all guns and take a fingerprint of fired shots so you can always trace it back to the owner. If you commit a crime with a gun you go to jail. If you kill someone with a gun you die. If you lose a gun or have it stolen and do not report it you are then responsible for the crime. Its not the gun here or the type of gun its the person using it.

The root cause here is as always, jobs, education and family. Fix those and most of our problems will be much smaller.
 
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