NIL’s

Redenbacher said:
Arkansas just passed a law that payments made to college athletes directly from universities will be exempt from state income tax. That should go over really well with ordinary citizens who actually have to pay income tax on their earnings!

Under the law – which amended the Arkansas Student-Athlete Publicity Rights Act – funds related to NIL or revenue-sharing directly from a university will be exempt from state income tax. Additionally, the bill states financial information related to payments to athletes will be confidential and not subject to the Freedom of Information Act.


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New York needs to do that and I'd be fine with it but that can seriously change decisions with how NIL has exploded
 
Notice that it is the "state" schools that are now driving the NIL "free market".
Arkansas and Kentucky are taking steps to improve their school's position for athletes in the market.
Expect all the Power Five schools and their respective states to do the same.
Pity the poor kids struggling with college expenses that will still have to pay their student loans for the rest of their lives!😪
 
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Attorney in House vs. NCAA settlement criticizes Nick Saban, President Trump: ‘Unmerited and unhelpful’

With settlement on system to pay college athletes near, lawyer criticizes Saban for “eleventh-hour self importance.”
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Attorney in House vs. NCAA settlement criticizes Nick Saban, President Trump: ‘Unmerited and unhelpful’

Stewart Mandel
Stewart Mandel
May 5, 2025 6:03 pm EDT
An attorney representing current and former college athletes in the proposed $2.8. billion House vs. NCAA settlement said a potential executive order from President Donald Trump on the issue of NIL in college sports would be “unmerited and unhelpful” and criticized former Alabama coach Nick Saban’s “eleventh-hour self importance,” due to his reported involvement in the discussions.

The Wall Street Journal reported late last week that Trump met with Saban while the president was in Tuscaloosa, Ala., to give the commencement speech at Alabama’s graduation ceremonies. The seven-time national championship coach warned that the compensation of athletes was creating an uneven playing field. The paper said that afterward, Trump instructed aides to begin studying what could be included in an executive order.

“While he was a coach, Saban initially opposed NIL payments to athletes, pushing to add restrictions and red tape through national legislation to add ‘some sort of control,’” attorney Steve Berman said. “During his time scrutinizing the athlete pay structure, he made tens of millions of dollars and was previously the highest-paid coach in college football.”

A federal judge in California is currently in the final stages of deciding whether to approve an expansive settlement in the House case that would establish a new system by which schools could directly pay up to $20.5 million a year for athletes’ NIL rights. Currently, all such deals must come from outside entities like collectives.

Judge Claudia Wilken told the parties on April 24 that she would not approve the settlement unless modifications were made to ensure current athletes do not lose spots on their teams due to the implementation of roster limits for each sport contained in the settlement.

The parties have until Thursday to respond.

No details have emerged about a potential executive order regarding NIL, which has become a catch-all abbreviation for a number of related issues in college sports, most notably the transfer portal.

“Coach Saban and Trump’s eleventh-hour talks of executive orders and other meddling are just more unneeded self-involvement,” Berman said. “College athletes are spearheading historic changes and benefitting massively from NIL deals. They don’t need this unmerited interference from a coach only seeking to protect the system that made him tens of millions.”
 
ohiofan said:
NOT ANOTHER WORD, NOT ONE, REGARDING CONGRESS, POTUS, SENATORS, JUDGES, OR POLITICS IN GENERAL.

IF YOU DO, YOUR POSTING PRIVILEGES WILL BE PAUSED FOR A TBD AMOUNT OF TIME.
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A federal judge in California is currently in the final stages of deciding whether to approve an expansive settlement in the House case that would establish a new system by which schools could directly pay up to $20.5 million a year for athletes’ NIL
 
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Redenbacher said:
A federal judge in California is currently in the final stages of deciding whether to approve an expansive settlement in the House case that would establish a new system by which schools could directly pay up to $20.5 million a year for athletes’ NIL
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You just edited my post without telling me. As such, you are misrepresenting my post. That’s quite dishonest, I can’t believe the level of censorship.

Adios, amigos.
 
Rocket said:
Notice that it is the "state" schools that are now driving the NIL "free market".
Arkansas and Kentucky are taking steps to improve their school's position for athletes in the market.
Expect all the Power Five schools and their respective states to do the same.
Pity the poor kids struggling with college expenses that will still have to pay their student loans for the rest of their lives!😪
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Redenbacher said:
You just edited my post without telling me. As such, you are misrepresenting my post. That’s quite dishonest, I can’t believe the level of censorship.

Adios, amigos.
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As long as your posts are related to the NIL discussions I think you should be fine.
The entire NIL process was established by a federal court based on litigation. There is no separation of the issue from the courts and is almost entirely out of the hands of individual universities.
The entire process has become a conundrum for schools trying to remain competitive.
 
I DON'T THINK EVERYONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE FOLLOWING. YOUR POSTING PRIVILEGES ARE AT RISK.

ONE IS ALREADY GONE AND OTHERS ARE TEETERING.

NOT ANOTHER WORD, NOT ONE, REGARDING CONGRESS, POTUS, SENATORS, JUDGES, OR POLITICS IN GENERAL.

IF YOU DO, YOUR POSTING PRIVILEGES WILL BE PAUSED FOR A TBD AMOUNT OF TIME.
 
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I wonder if the will approve the in the As long as doesn’t then the Johnnies should be fine in the short term but I wouldn’t be surprised if tries to like he does everything else
 
So here's a few cents on the do's and don't's of the NIL thread.

1. The basis for the thread was a discussion of various NIL deals, in other words the landscape of what the market was for players etc.

2. That naturally related to school budgets for NIL, collective, etc.

3. The proposed settlement obviously involved legal action, but the relevant issue is its impact on NIL on a conference/school/player basis.

4. We all know that this has raised the potential for legislative or executive action related to the issue. HOWEVER, as has already been demonstrated on this thread (from various points of view), that immediately sends things down the religion and politics rabbit hole which has been explicitly banned from the site because (a) nothing good comes from it (some of us are old enough to remember the old rules of you don't discuss religion and politics in social circles); and (b) there are lots of other places out there for people to discuss those matters (however productively or unproductively).

So if folks want to discuss what players are getting or schools are paying in NIL deals, the role of collectives, the potential impact of the potential settlement on players, schools, conferences, the sport in general, all good.

Otherwise, unless there is an actual piece of legislation or concrete executive action in the arena, please stay away from The Third Rail of Red Fans.

If there is an actual piece of legislation or concrete executive action that becomes relevant, the mods will discuss and provide further guidance (if needed) about how to address it (if at all) in a way that doesn't violate the "no religion or politics" rule.

Lastly, firing at the mods is generally not a good idea. This isn't the public square, and there are no First Amendment rights here. It's - by design - a moderated space, the mods play a specific role, and what they do is designed to maintain the space in the way it was intended to be. There is just as much viewpoint diversity among the mods as there is among the posters - but there is little or no disagreement among the mods about any of the moderation actions that have been taken. So if your post gets graveyarded or if a mod feels compelled to edit it in order to prevent things from spinning out of control, it is neither personal nor "censorship." It's just us doing our jobs.

Hope that helps.
 
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lawmanfan said:
So here's a few cents on the do's and don't's of the NIL thread.

1. The basis for the thread was a discussion of various NIL deals, in other words the landscape of what the market was for players etc.

2. That naturally related to school budgets for NIL, collective, etc.

3. The proposed settlement obviously involved legal action, but the relevant issue is its impact on NIL on a conference/school/player basis.

4. We all know that this has raised the potential for legislative or executive action related to the issue. HOWEVER, as has already been demonstrated on this thread (from various points of view), that immediately sends things down the religion and politics rabbit hole which has been explicitly banned from the site because (a) nothing good comes from it (some of us are old enough to remember the old rules of you don't discuss religion and politics in social circles); and (b) there are lots of other places out there for people to discuss those matters (however productively or unproductively).

So if folks want to discuss what players are getting or schools are paying in NIL deals, the role of collective, the potential impact of the potential settlement on players, schools, conferences, the sport in general, all good.

Otherwise, unless there is an actual piece of legislation or concrete executive action in the arena, please stay away from The Third Rail of Red Fans.

If there is an actual piece of legislation or concrete executive action that becomes relevant, the mods will discuss and provide further guidance (if needed) about how to address it (if at all) in a way that doesn't violate the "no religion or politics" rule.

Lastly, firing at the mods is generally not a good idea. This isn't the public square, and there are no First Amendment rights here. It's - by design - a moderated space, the mods play a specific role, and what they do is designed to maintain the space in the way it was intended to be. There is just as much viewpoint diversity among the mods as there is among the posters - but there is little or no disagreement among the mods about any of the moderation actions that have been taken. So if your post gets graveyarded or if a mod feels compelled to edit it in order to prevent things from spinning out of control, it is neither personal nor "censorship." It's just us doing our jobs.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks LFM - clear enough.
 
lawmanfan said:
nothing good comes from it (some of us are old enough to remember the old rules of you don't discuss religion and politics in social circles); and (b) there are lots of other places out there for people to discuss those matters (however productively or unproductively).
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That didn't stop you from being one of the most prolific posters in R&P back in the day. ;)
 
Fizzy said:
If/when RJ hits the portal how much is worth in NIL money? Like 4mil?
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It's going to be interesting for the late returnees. They are going to think that they are worth a lot of money because as maybe-NBA guys they are worth more than not-NBA guys. But schools will have filled out rosters and used up budgets, so the market may not support their ideas. It's a supply and demand issue.

I think Nova is one school that may be well positioned to scoop up some talent late because they have both resources and spots. Not sure what other schools fit into that category.

Pitino & Co clearly gamed this out in advance and decided they were not going to spend time/resources or hold spots for maybe-NBA guys. I'm sure if one falls into their lap they won't say no, but it was smart business to write those guys off and go get guys you could get - especially if you trust your coaching ability which he has no reason not to.
 
NCJohnnie said:
Thanks LFM - clear enough.
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There was a sign on the back wall of a bar I used to frequent (not the only one I am sure) that read: "No Politics and No Religion" someone added underneath, sex and sports --- go for it.

The owner's kid in crayons did a sign that said "If you're mean or curse, you will be banned!"
 
L J S A said:
It's late though. So unless he had a secret guarantee already in place, could teams try to low ball him?
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I figured Miami was the logical destination for him if he returns, given the location, their need for impact players year 1, and the HS coach connection. Recently, however, a legit Miami "insider" (and I mean legit) told me to not be so sure on that. I don't want to disparage a kid who was awesome most of this year save for the ARK debacle, but what was relayed to me was that the HS coach-connection may not be anything close to the "factor" I thought it would be.
 
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