NIL’s

Can't wait to see Scott Boras involved as an agent (if he thinks, he can make money on this kind of client).
 
It would not shock me at all to see the Big East become either an ACC affiliate for basketball only or absorbed by ACC after Clemson, UNC, FSU, etc. leave. It’s clear NIL will only make the most powerful even more greedy & eventually leave NCAA. Maybe in 5 yrs maybe 10. I think it would make a lot of sense for us. I love the Big East but if we don’t get creative & bold, we will get left behind. Eventually it will be ACC, B12, B1G, SEC as P4 after we hopefully get absorbed. Obviously B1G & SEC will be by far the biggest, but this is best case scenario long term for us IMO. Tradition will continue to give way to greed.
 
monte said:
RIP college sports the way we once knew it. It's done every again being close to the way it was.
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Agreed...but still think the majority of alums and casual school fans who don't follow fanatically will care about business side as long as their team does well.
 
I f8nd it hard to feel.sorrybfor a kid who walked away from miami and a $9 million NIL deal to pursue a $13 million deal that was defaulted on. Do you think for a second that the 2nd deal wasn't dangled when he had already committed to Miami?

To me, when you involve individuals and businesses large and small to be responsible for paying athletes TO PLAY , and not for their name, image, and likeness (because for most athletes the NIL part isn't worth 1% of what they are being paid, then this stuff is going to happen.

The NCAA has decided to let fans be the financiers of paid athletes. The NCAA doesn't lose one penny of revenue, the kids get enriched, so the downside is a wild west lacking adequate controls.

Sad to say but Eff the greedy businessman alum who defaulted on payments, and eff the greedy kid who somehow thinks he DESERVES millions to be a college athlete.

The system sucks. I don't really care too much about how good we are next year because with the help.of one or two wealthy alums, we signed a million dollar player. In doing so, we just tossed the keys 🔑 of control to a tiny few people for the sole purpose of winning.

Honestly I will find it hard to follow through on major commitments (for me) to.support this operation. I'll do it, but without the system changing, I'm basically done.
 
RedStormNC said:
Agreed...but still think the majority of alums and casual school fans who don't follow fanatically will care about business side as long as their team does well.
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I think you're probably correct, although I think you meant "won't care" lol . I've gone from being a long time fanatical fan(redundancy intended) to a casual fan in just a few months. Over the years I've developed the ability to stop caring about things(and some people) very quickly. We'll see where I stand when they role out the balls.
 
Beasts of the East said:
I f8nd it hard to feel.sorrybfor a kid who walked away from miami and a $9 million NIL deal to pursue a $13 million deal that was defaulted on. Do you think for a second that the 2nd deal wasn't dangled when he had already committed to Miami?

To me, when you involve individuals and businesses large and small to be responsible for paying athletes TO PLAY , and not for their name, image, and likeness (because for most athletes the NIL part isn't worth 1% of what they are being paid, then this stuff is going to happen.

The NCAA has decided to let fans be the financiers of paid athletes. The NCAA doesn't lose one penny of revenue, the kids get enriched, so the downside is a wild west lacking adequate controls.

Sad to say but Eff the greedy businessman alum who defaulted on payments, and eff the greedy kid who somehow thinks he DESERVES millions to be a college athlete.

The system sucks. I don't really care too much about how good we are next year because with the help.of one or two wealthy alums, we signed a million dollar player. In doing so, we just tossed the keys 🔑 of control to a tiny few people for the sole purpose of winning.

Honestly I will find it hard to follow through on major commitments (for me) to.support this operation. I'll do it, but without the system changing, I'm basically done.
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I understand your point Beast, but think about it this way: You just finished college and are interviewing for jobs. You're broke. You get a call back and are offered a job and accept the offer. 1 hour later you get a call back from another company. The jobs are the same and just about everything between the 2 companies is equal, but, the second company offers you 50% more over a 4 years, guaranteed.

Are you telling me you don't accept the second offer and call the first company back and tell them you're taking a different opportunity? Easy to say when you are retired, or close to retirement. Not so easy when starting out.
 
SJU85 said:
Do we know Taylor wanted to stay and was told to leave or based on last season, did he see no pathway for an increase in PT in his last year and decided to go elsewhere to seek more PT?
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Or perhaps he was not just seeking more PT but more MT (money time). If the opportunity was there and St John’s wasn’t going to give it to him, why not look elsewhere?
 
Anthony Mattia said:
I understand your point Beast, but think about it this way: You just finished college and are interviewing for jobs. You're broke. You get a call back and are offered a job and accept the offer. 1 hour later you get a call back from another company. The jobs are the same and just about everything between the 2 companies is equal, but, the second company offers you 50% more over a 4 years, guaranteed.

Are you telling me you don't accept the second offer and call the first company back and tell them you're taking a different opportunity? Easy to say when you are retired, or close to retirement. Not so easy when starting out.
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Agree with your point, but when the first company offered you a great deal, you accepted, then the second bigger deal falls apart, you have no one to blame but yourself.

There are rules against going after athletes that have already committed but those rules are being ignored by some.
 
Beasts of the East said:
Agree with your point, but when the first company offered you a great deal, you accepted, then the second bigger deal falls apart, you have no one to blame but yourself.

There are rules against going after athletes that have already committed but those rules are being ignored by some.
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Agree with you on both of these points
 
Beasts of the East said:
The NCAA has decided to let fans be the financiers of paid athletes. The NCAA doesn't lose one penny of revenue, the kids get enriched, so the downside is a wild west lacking adequate controls.
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NIL was instituted by state laws in response to the growing Labor and Court disputes starting with O'Bannon. NCAA was helpless to stop it as seen in NCAA vs Alston and still are. Plenty to fault the NCAA for but NIL is and has been out of their hands once state laws made it legal. Of course if they let players earn outside compensation through jobs or appearances like all their other students have available to them, including those on non academic scholarships, this might have been avoided or at least less impactful.

Timeline:
  • 2009 – Former UCLA basketball standout Ed O’Bannon was a plaintiff in a class action against the NCAA. O’Bannon and the other plaintiffs claimed an EA Sports video basketball game used their likenesses without consent or compensation.
  • 2014 – Northwestern University football players petitioned the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) to classify them as employees and permit them to unionize and directly benefit from commercial opportunities. The NLRB petition was unsuccessful, but the NCAA and member schools were put on notice about limiting the monetization of NIL by student-athletes.
  • 2015 – Federal district and appellate courts upheld the arguments of O’Bannon and the other plaintiffs, ruling that the NCAA’s amateurism rules were an unlawful restraint of trade. As a result, the NCAA increased the grant-in-aid limit to the full cost of attending school and allowed up to $5,000 per year in additional compensation.
  • 2019 – California became the first state to pass NIL legislation in the “Fair Pay to Play Act” which prohibited the NCAA or member schools from punishing student-athletes who earn NIL compensation. The new measure was set for enactment in 2023.
  • 2020 – Colorado, Florida, Nebraska, New Jersey and several other states pass laws permitting college student athletes to monetize their NIL. These new regulations are scheduled for enactment in 2022 and 2023.
  • 2020 – The National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA) passed regulations allowing NIL compensation for its student athletes. The NAIA regulates collegiate athletics at 252 member institutions who field 77,000 student athletes in 27 sports.
  • 2021 – In NCAA vs. Alston, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected an NCAA appeal of its antitrust lawsuit, finalizing the lower court decision that the NCAA is not exempt from antitrust regulations. This ruling opened the floodgates for additional academic-related compensation and led to the NCAA’s ultimate decision to quickly adopt an Interim NIL Policy that allowed, for the first time, student-athletes to benefit financially from their name, image, and likeness without fear of NCAA penalty.
 
With P5 agreeing to $20M/yr allowed, will be interesting to see how they will decide to divide among sports.

I'm guessing a non-football school won't be allowed to have same max allowance.
 
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