Next Head Coach

[quote="we are sju" post=318011][quote="L J S A" post=317989][quote="we are sju" post=317981][quote="L J S A" post=317978][quote="adavis1" post=317977]Kyle Smith[/quote]

He'd definitely be in my top few candidates should the need arise.[/quote]

Again can he recruit here? Which will be the question with any of the realistic choices here.[/quote]

Apparently no one but Matt can recruit here, so if a change comes, only three coaches should initially be fired. Let the new guy meet Matt and see if he likes him.[/quote]


Again Mullin has some obvious faults. But I love people saying Mullin can't recruit but Matt is great?????[/quote]

How about neither can recruit, better?
 
[quote="fordham96" post=318019][quote="we are sju" post=318011][quote="L J S A" post=317989][quote="we are sju" post=317981][quote="L J S A" post=317978][quote="adavis1" post=317977]Kyle Smith[/quote]

He'd definitely be in my top few candidates should the need arise.[/quote]

Again can he recruit here? Which will be the question with any of the realistic choices here.[/quote]

Apparently no one but Matt can recruit here, so if a change comes, only three coaches should initially be fired. Let the new guy meet Matt and see if he likes him.[/quote]


Again Mullin has some obvious faults. But I love people saying Mullin can't recruit but Matt is great?????[/quote]

How about neither can recruit, better?[/quote]

Sure, should be one or the other since you know Matt is reflection of head coach.
 
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Couple of things:

-They have 11 games left, Duke+10 league games. There is time to get this turned around. But it is clear that many of the flaws in this team that were covered up with a weak schedule are being exposed right now. I mean as I stated earlier look at Georgetown's roster, the depth. They are MUCH deeper. Heck they were deeper 3 weeks ago WITHOUT McClung and Mourning. They sure as hell are deeper WITH them. I think they are better than SJU. And they are not going to sniff the NCAA's this year.

I think the biggest thing that needs to happen even if they sneak into the NCAA's is Cragg needs to sit down with Coach in the off season and go over a few things:
1)Gauge how committed he is to seeing SJU be a top program in the BE. Is he ready to be in "every gym" and "every kid's living room." If not then he needs to gracefully step aside.
2)Assume Chris assures him that he is 100% committed Cragg needs to then say, "What can I do to help?" In other words you need staff changes, let me help. And this is where Chris needs to recognize the staff and his entire recruiting strategy is NOT working. If he insists the staff and strategy can work then I'm sorry he needs to be told that is not good enough.

I think if he is brought back without assurances given that he is totally committed to seeing SJU competing with Nova at the top of the BE and will make the necessary changes I think you will see a huge dropoff in attendance and support. Trust me Vaccaro has been sitting on that column for a few weeks hoping he never had to hit SEND. There will be more like it soon.

The good thing about Cragg from what I hear is he is tied to "nostalgia." He more than anyone understands that the basketball program is important to the University and to the BE.
 
Something to consider too is that 2019's recruiting class is empty. We do have a couple transfers, but they are basically locked in since I believe they're already at the school. That means we probably wouldn't lose any incoming players.

With Lavin, we did lose Brandon Sampson who was a top 100 recruit.

As for recruiting, yeah nobody on the team is good at recruiting. Matt does an excellent job with transfers and an okay job with recruits. My concern in regards to Mullin is that I don't see him putting in the necessary effort to get recruits. Same with GSJ and Mitch. When was the last time 2-3 people on staff went to a high school game at the same time? Matt is the only one on staff to show tangible results in really any aspects of the game.
 
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Here is the list of coaches that our fans wanted fired by their second or third year:

Brian Mahoney
Fran Fraschilla
Mike Jarvis
Norm Roberts
Steve Lavin
Chris Mullin

Here is the list of coaches our fans liked after three seasons:
 
[quote="Adam" post=318050]

As for recruiting, yeah nobody on the team is good at recruiting. Matt does an excellent job with transfers and an okay job with recruits. My criticism in regards to Mullin is that I don't see him putting in the necessary effort to get recruits. Same with GSJ and Mitch. When was the last time 2-3 people on staff went to a high school game at the same time? Matt is the only one on staff to show tangible results in really any aspects of the game.[/quote]

Again keeping this mantra, imagine Coach X of SJU having a HORRENDOUS league record in 3 1/2 years and literally giving almost NO effort in recruiting. Can you just imagine the vitriol that would be thrown at Coach X (fill in the blank).
 
[quote="bamafan" post=318054]Don't think anyone wanted FF fired.[/quote]


Lavin was a runner up as COY in his first year and had Cancer in his second year. I have no idea who wanted him fired after year 2 or even his NIT appearance in year 3 especially after he got a re-commitment out of JaKarr Sampson.
 
[quote="Marillac" post=318051]Here is the list of coaches that our fans wanted fired by their second or third year:

Brian Mahoney
Fran Fraschilla
Mike Jarvis
Norm Roberts
Steve Lavin
Chris Mullin

Here is the list of coaches our fans liked after three seasons:[/quote]

I wasn't a fan for the first 4 coaches, but I'd have to think fan expectations have dropped a lot over time, right? 20 years ago we were in the Elite 8, so I'd think the coaches during/directly following that would have very high expectations.

At this point our expectations are so low that they're just to make the Tournament once during the first 4 years. Our expectations can't go any lower than that.
 
On paper when was our starting 5 this good. The problem isn't Matt. 1 guy cant do it all
 
[quote="Adam" post=318056][quote="Marillac" post=318051]Here is the list of coaches that our fans wanted fired by their second or third year:

Brian Mahoney
Fran Fraschilla
Mike Jarvis
Norm Roberts
Steve Lavin
Chris Mullin

Here is the list of coaches our fans liked after three seasons:[/quote]

I wasn't a fan for the first 4 coaches, but I'd have to think fan expectations have dropped a lot over time, right? 20 years ago we were in the Elite 8, so I'd think the coaches during/directly following that would have very high expectations.

At this point our expectations are so low that they're just to make the Tournament once during the first 4 years. Our expectations can't go any lower than that.[/quote]

Not only that the context is so ridiculous. Lavin, Mahoney and Jarvis had terrific 1st years. NCAA years. Mahoney was COY, Lavin was runner up and Jarvis went to the Final 8. All 3 of them had earned some good will that they were going to be allowed to burn. And Roberts was handed a complete mess of a program facing NCAA sanctions.

Mullin has done nothing, literally nothing. And he has been given every advantage to try to turn this thing around. Money for assistants etc.
 
When you hitch your wagon to guys like Dom Pointer and Justin Simon you are setup to fail.

Can anyone name a perimeter starter less skilled than Pointer or Simon on any top 7 Big East teams in the last 15 years? No.

You storm back to a one possession game, Ponds drives and kicks to a wide open player... unfortunately that player is Simon and he's open because coaches want to bait us into passing it to him. Simon shotputs the three-point attemt and misses badly. Gtown rebounds and is fouled immediately. Game over.
 
[quote="fordham96" post=318061][quote="Adam" post=318056][quote="Marillac" post=318051]Here is the list of coaches that our fans wanted fired by their second or third year:

Brian Mahoney
Fran Fraschilla
Mike Jarvis
Norm Roberts
Steve Lavin
Chris Mullin

Here is the list of coaches our fans liked after three seasons:[/quote]

I wasn't a fan for the first 4 coaches, but I'd have to think fan expectations have dropped a lot over time, right? 20 years ago we were in the Elite 8, so I'd think the coaches during/directly following that would have very high expectations.

At this point our expectations are so low that they're just to make the Tournament once during the first 4 years. Our expectations can't go any lower than that.[/quote]

Not only that the context is so ridiculous. Lavin, Mahoney and Jarvis had terrific 1st years. NCAA years. Mahoney was COY, Lavin was runner up and Jarvis went to the Final 8. All 3 of them had earned some good will that they were going to be allowed to burn. And Roberts was handed a complete mess of a program facing NCAA sanctions.

Mullin has done nothing, literally nothing. And he has been given every advantage to try to turn this thing around. Money for assistants etc.[/quote]

They were all fired. A year after Jarvis won the Big East our fans were chanting "Fire Jarvis!" in Gampel Pavilion.
 
[quote="Knight" post=318069]What's the story with Mark Jackson?[/quote]

He's former great Johnny with no college coaching experience.
 
[quote="bamafan" post=318054]Don't think anyone wanted FF fired.[/quote]

I still wanted him even after he took his balls out. I was really impressed with the confidence of a 5'5" white dude who would expose himself to a bunch of 6'7" black guys.:lol:

Wasn't happy with him telling Ty Grant's mom that her son wasn't good enough, but that may have actually come out after he was canned.
 
[quote="Knight" post=318069]What's the story with Mark Jackson?[/quote]

The story is that he's a jerk and if he gets hired that probably ends my story as a fan.
 
[quote="Knight" post=318069]What's the story with Mark Jackson?[/quote]

Based on Wiki doesn't seem like much since he was fired by the Warriors in 2014... and he's living in Brooklyn.

Edit: but yeah a lot of skeleton apparently
 
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[quote="we are sju" post=318011]
Again Mullin has some obvious faults. But I love people saying Mullin can't recruit but Matt is great?????[/quote]

He doesn't call recruits, he doesn't show up to campus visits, he doesn't go out to live period tournaments. I know you love Mullin, but come on. At least Matt tries to recruit.
 
[quote="L J S A" post=318082][quote="we are sju" post=318011]
Again Mullin has some obvious faults. But I love people saying Mullin can't recruit but Matt is great?????[/quote]

He doesn't call recruits, he doesn't show up to campus visits, he doesn't go out to live period tournaments. I know you love Mullin, but come on. At least Matt tries to recruit.[/quote]

Mullin can't even tweet. He is a computer illiterate. These kids live in a different galaxy in terms of communication.
 
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