Next Coach?

This may be totally off but just thought i would pass it along if for no other reason than for entertainment sake. There is a rumor that Billy D is not happy with treatment he has received (my guess is by students and or fans) for the off season Florida has had and that if Crean is let go by Indiana he may be interested. I obviously have no idea if any of this is true. If it is, taking it a step further if MR is the man behind the Lavin contract and if he wants the plug pulled on Lavin (barring a good run in the T obviously) maybe he takes another run at Billy the Kid. Just throwing it out there in case the improbable happens I would get the scoup of the century on the redmen sites. LOL
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Sorry bamafan, your scoop would still be second to mine from last year when I spotted CO on crutches on 72nd and York and first broke the news to the site about his ankle injury.
 
This may be totally off but just thought i would pass it along if for no other reason than for entertainment sake. There is a rumor that Billy D is not happy with treatment he has received (my guess is by students and or fans) for the off season Florida has had and that if Crean is let go by Indiana he may be interested. I obviously have no idea if any of this is true. If it is, taking it a step further if MR is the man behind the Lavin contract and if he wants the plug pulled on Lavin (barring a good run in the T obviously) maybe he takes another run at Billy the Kid. Just throwing it out there in case the improbable happens I would get the scoup of the century on the redmen sites. LOL
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Sorry bamafan, your scoop would still be second to mine from last year when I spotted CO on crutches on 72nd and York and first broke the news to the site about his ankle injury.
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Yes, that was a good one.
 
This may be totally off but just thought i would pass it along if for no other reason than for entertainment sake. There is a rumor that Billy D is not happy with treatment he has received (my guess is by students and or fans) for the off season Florida has had and that if Crean is let go by Indiana he may be interested. I obviously have no idea if any of this is true. If it is, taking it a step further if MR is the man behind the Lavin contract and if he wants the plug pulled on Lavin (barring a good run in the T obviously) maybe he takes another run at Billy the Kid. Just throwing it out there in case the improbable happens I would get the scoup of the century on the redmen sites. LOL
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Who is Florida recruiting that we can steal? ;)
 
This may be totally off but just thought i would pass it along if for no other reason than for entertainment sake. There is a rumor that Billy D is not happy with treatment he has received (my guess is by students and or fans) for the off season Florida has had and that if Crean is let go by Indiana he may be interested. I obviously have no idea if any of this is true. If it is, taking it a step further if MR is the man behind the Lavin contract and if he wants the plug pulled on Lavin (barring a good run in the T obviously) maybe he takes another run at Billy the Kid. Just throwing it out there in case the improbable happens I would get the scoup of the century on the redmen sites. LOL
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Who is Florida recruiting that we can steal? ;)
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Keith Stone SF 4 stars Noah Dickerson C 4 stars Kevaughn Allen SG 4 stars Kevarrius Hayes C 3 stars all committed.
 
This may be totally off but just thought i would pass it along if for no other reason than for entertainment sake. There is a rumor that Billy D is not happy with treatment he has received (my guess is by students and or fans) for the off season Florida has had and that if Crean is let go by Indiana he may be interested. I obviously have no idea if any of this is true. If it is, taking it a step further if MR is the man behind the Lavin contract and if he wants the plug pulled on Lavin (barring a good run in the T obviously) maybe he takes another run at Billy the Kid. Just throwing it out there in case the improbable happens I would get the scoup of the century on the redmen sites. LOL
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Bama, I was thinking along the lines you mentioned.. Billy D has probably gotten a bit tired of trying to compete with Cal in the SEC and, sooner or later might look at new pastures? Plus, he has had to kick more than a few players off the team for various infractions. That wears on a Coach

Crean has done a very good, not great job at Indiana and fans there want a BIG 10 championship and contending status every year. The criteria there is probably , 1 NCAA Final 4 every 4-5 years and that hasn't happened. Crean would be a step up from Lavin as he can actually Coach players and had a good track record at Marquette before Indiana.

Howland will probably get a job elsewhere and I'm not sure NYC is a good fit for him. He is a good Coach and had a BE winning Resume at Pitt, before Dixon.

I would certainly consider, either of the Hurley Bros. as they are Winning Coaches on the rise..And, who cares if Bobby left to go to Duke, after K. He will have a long line of former players, now Coaches in line with him.They all can't get the job.
 
This may be totally off but just thought i would pass it along if for no other reason than for entertainment sake. There is a rumor that Billy D is not happy with treatment he has received (my guess is by students and or fans) for the off season Florida has had and that if Crean is let go by Indiana he may be interested. I obviously have no idea if any of this is true. If it is, taking it a step further if MR is the man behind the Lavin contract and if he wants the plug pulled on Lavin (barring a good run in the T obviously) maybe he takes another run at Billy the Kid. Just throwing it out there in case the improbable happens I would get the scoup of the century on the redmen sites. LOL
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Sorry bamafan, your scoop would still be second to mine from last year when I spotted CO on crutches on 72nd and York and first broke the news to the site about his ankle injury.
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Sorry bamafan and monte but I spotted Adonis ordering a triple scoop of ice cream at Carvel and that is why he may not play ever for St. John's.
 
From the early 80s on kids could leave early for the NBA. Jordan and Olajuwon left in 84 early and Big John was always threatening to have Ewing leave before 4 years. So Louie had to deal with that problem for a good part of his career.
As for the better game coach Lou hands down. He may never have won a game he shouldn't but his teams were well prepared and other than Niagra in 1984 he didn't loose games he was supposed to win.
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Jordan and Olajuwon did leave early, but leaving early at that time was usually after junior season's.


The '84-'85 team was loaded with talent. Pro talent! Lou also lost quite a few games that he shouldn't have lost.
 
This may be totally off but just thought i would pass it along if for no other reason than for entertainment sake. There is a rumor that Billy D is not happy with treatment he has received (my guess is by students and or fans) for the off season Florida has had and that if Crean is let go by Indiana he may be interested. I obviously have no idea if any of this is true. If it is, taking it a step further if MR is the man behind the Lavin contract and if he wants the plug pulled on Lavin (barring a good run in the T obviously) maybe he takes another run at Billy the Kid. Just throwing it out there in case the improbable happens I would get the scoup of the century on the redmen sites. LOL
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I was really hoping that Billy took the Orlando Magic job a few years back. If he wasn't successful he could come back to college hoops. That was the only way I could see him coming to another school like SJU.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-big-east-loss-leaves-steve-lavin-storm-clouds-article-1.2148963
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The most telling comment, by D'Lo: “We didn’t have a lot of energy today. You saw that. I don’t know why.”

From a group of kids who we all though were hungry, in a huge game like that, I simply do not understand how lack of energy could be a factor.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-big-east-loss-leaves-steve-lavin-storm-clouds-article-1.2148963
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The most telling comment, by D'Lo: “We didn’t have a lot of energy today. You saw that. I don’t know why.”

From a group of kids who we all though were hungry, in a huge game like that, I simply do not understand how lack of energy could be a factor.
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Energy and effort are not the same thing. They came out flat and couldn't summon up the bravado it requires to take it to your opponent. It's all semantics, but if you ask me, they built it up so much that they came out more afraid to lose than excited to compete and win. At least it looked that way.
 
@wallyball: Masterful coaching job by @ISUMayor32 in 2nd half. Attacked mismatches got control of the game. #Big12Tournament Champs @CycloneMBB

@JonRothstein: Iowa State continues to cement its place as a national program. Cyclones have now won back-to-back Big 12 Tournament titles. Amazing feat.
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Watched that game, and it was a good one. For a long time I thought Kansas had too many answers for ISU, though McKay and Niang played great. Then in the second half Fred Hoiberg just coached circles around Bill Self (never the best tactician). Great job by Hoiberg against superior talent.

Look out for Kansas next year, though.

Don't see Hoiberg as a candidate here tho
 
We really are the worst fan base out there. Today should be a great day for all of us. St. John's is making the tournament for the first time since 2011. And yet we're still talking about who the next coach will be.

Can we please take a mini break from this? Let's enjoy the next week at least and revisit it afterwards.
 
@wallyball: Masterful coaching job by @ISUMayor32 in 2nd half. Attacked mismatches got control of the game. #Big12Tournament Champs @CycloneMBB

@JonRothstein: Iowa State continues to cement its place as a national program. Cyclones have now won back-to-back Big 12 Tournament titles. Amazing feat.
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Watched that game, and it was a good one. For a long time I thought Kansas had too many answers for ISU, though McKay and Niang played great. Then in the second half Fred Hoiberg just coached circles around Bill Self (never the best tactician). Great job by Hoiberg against superior talent.

Look out for Kansas next year, though.

Don't see Hoiberg as a candidate here tho
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You mean Norm sitting next to Self, couldn't help his mentor with tactics?
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-big-east-loss-leaves-steve-lavin-storm-clouds-article-1.2148963
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The most telling comment, by D'Lo: “We didn’t have a lot of energy today. You saw that. I don’t know why.”

From a group of kids who we all though were hungry, in a huge game like that, I simply do not understand how lack of energy could be a factor.
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Energy and effort are not the same thing. They came out flat and couldn't summon up the bravado it requires to take it to your opponent. It's all semantics, but if you ask me, they built it up so much that they came out more afraid to lose than excited to compete and win. At least it looked that way.
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Well, it comes as no surprise that a little group and individual therapy might have helped this team through its' myriad of Soap Opera excursions during the Lavin era.. Lavin's post game comments are bizarre, DLO'S equally strange.

They can ponder those questions about under achievement during their careers over the rest of their lifetimes..Both, Coaching staff and players.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-big-east-loss-leaves-steve-lavin-storm-clouds-article-1.2148963
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The most telling comment, by D'Lo: “We didn’t have a lot of energy today. You saw that. I don’t know why.”

From a group of kids who we all though were hungry, in a huge game like that, I simply do not understand how lack of energy could be a factor.
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Energy and effort are not the same thing. They came out flat and couldn't summon up the bravado it requires to take it to your opponent. It's all semantics, but if you ask me, they built it up so much that they came out more afraid to lose than excited to compete and win. At least it looked that way.
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Well, it comes as no surprise that a little group and individual therapy might have helped this team through its' myriad of Soap Opera excursions during the Lavin era.. Lavin's post game comments are bizarre, DLO'S equally strange.

They can ponder those questions about under achievement during their careers over the rest of their lifetimes..Both, Coaching staff and players.
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How about you, are you the model of over achievement? Would like to have your life under the microscope to see how you have performed. Your statement is an embarrassment to your self.
 
I still pose this question to the Lavin haters (since none have answered)... What were you expecting Lavin to do taking over a team where he literally had to start from scratch? I see that the years he's been on the bench with his own players, he won 17 games and went to the NIT second round. Won 20 games and lost in NIT first round. Won 21 games and will be coaching in the NCAAs with yet to be determined results. Now, please tell me what we should expect under the same exact circumstances. Please reference another coach who under the same exact circumstances either exceeded what Lavin has or has even matched what he has done on essentially 3 years. Thank you
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He built the team from scratch yes. The problem is he's put himself in a situation where he basically has to do it again. That's not how it's supposed to be. You are supposed to build a program and keep bringing in talent so you don't have to build from scratch every 4 years. But a good run in the tournament and I think Lavin can rebuild successfully, so as paultz said let's see how this goes
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So its ok to predict what our future holds when you nor i know that is Gunna happen this year or next in terms of recruits, transfers and who returns or doesn't. So how can you say what he is creating isn't sustainable when it hasn't even happened... Hardly anyone gave us a chance to make the tourney this year once adr and thomas were declared ineligible and yet.. Here we are on the eve of selection Sunday wondering what seed we'll be
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I'm not predicting anything but with the seniors leaving it is clear there is a lot of rebuilding to done. I don't know what the roster will look like but the 2015 class so far has left a lot to be a desired. Which is why i said a good tournament run could help. I'm pretty neutral on the Lavin thing, I understand why people like him and understand why people don't. But you seem to be in disbelief that some fans are frustrated, when there are a lot of reasons to be
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Nah... I'm over the disbelief since no one can obviously answer the question I've posed.. It just solidifies my stance on how well of a job SL has done in a short period of time. Forget the fact if we still had the 2 players that left for the NBA...Generally speaking the people that don't like him is because of where he chooses to dine, what he chooses to wear and how he chooses to style his hair. If they looked at the body of work they would realize what he has done with a doormat of a program that had no relevance for the last decade. The program has gotten better each year, that's what you strive for. A couple of Jucos/transfers and one or 2 more top 100 guys with CO Rysheed and Amar returning isn't a bad thing. Especially if the guys he brings in have some decent bball iq... That's not a rebuilding year in my opinion. We could def be more than competitive
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You say we get better every year but with next year looking like it could be a major step back that's why there is some dissapointment. Hope you are right tho
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My point is, who really knows? I just try to stay positive and hope the right pieces are brought in to let us be competitive. We'll worry about all that after the season. Stoked for tomorrow night!
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So you choose to stay positive and that is fine and valid; certainly your perogative. But I am negative for my reasons why is that not my perogative? I have listed (to some ad nauseum) my REASONS for not wanting Lavin back and I have never mentioned, ties or restaurants or the Village or anything unrelated to his basketball coaching.
Further, you DON'T have to read the posts by the members you have listed; you CHOOSE to read the posts you read, so stop crying about their posts, as Paultzman says, ignore them if you find them offensive.
From a certain point of view (yours and others) we HAVE improved every year; I just don't agree that it is REAL improvement based on coaching and program building. Now I could be wrong, I admit that but that is MY view and for the life of me I don't understand for a second why that is so hard to understand. Disagree with me, ignore me, do whatever turns you on but I believe Paul named this site redmen.com not "you have to check your mind at the door and only love all about the redmen.com." so we get more than ONE point of view.
 
Sorry to disappoint some but in my humble opinion 13 - 17 -20 - 21 ( with a win over a division 2 opponent ) while improvement in wins is just a natural progression of an all freshman team growing up. Remember the last 2 seasons have been in a weakened Big East so I as well as others don't know what our record would have been if Pitt , Louiseville , Syracuse and Notre Dame had not left.
No different than the way Norms kids improved every season.
However Coach Lavin has brought in superior talent and should be credited for same.
 
Yes, too much to ask.

Are you above some good ol' superstition? :) We close this, and boom, two first round exits, watch!

peace. : .
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I don't care anymore what anyone says in this thread, but look what happened when it was barren for a few days...

keep posting y'all, keep up top, and this season will extend past a game at least. if you don't...

may as well say "candyman" in the mirror three times. :)
 
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