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REDfan55555
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I don't believe for one second that our players are overrated, for the exception of Jordan, maybe, though he has the most potential. The problem is 90% depth and coaching. In the games we won, we needed something like four players to get at least 15 pts. Idk if that's exact but if our four scorers each attain their point averages in a game it doesnt add up to much. Granted if we had Jakarr still this teams dynamic would be different. We got no one serious to replace him.
Not to mention that our play book is frankly getting to perdictable. Based on momentum I can almost always tell what the play will be. We either need a new coach, or serious changes in Feburary all over.
BuckNasty85
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Villanova fans make fun of Steve Lappas (who I happen to think is a very good guy, not an excellent coach, but a good guy) because he was famous for saying, "WE DO OK!"
Too many Big East teams have adopted this "WE DO OK!" attitude and have settled for less. With Lavin SJU will continue to probably do less than OK. A guy like Purnell, who is probably a wonderful human being, should have been gone yesterday. But again, it's the "WE DO OK!" attitude that keeps these guys around.
Bottom line is last year with guys like Sanchez and Sampson on the roster, MOST coaches who do better than OK, would have taken that team to the Sweet 16. Lavin doesn't even dance. Last year SHOULD have been the big indicator, but for some reason people don't see this. So why are people so surprised about what is going on this year? On paper, last year was the better team.
Bringing in another Top 50 guy should not save Lavin's job, he has done it before, and his teams still underperform on the court. SJU, New York's team, the team that calls MSG home, should no longer try to do OK. Lavin needs to go. Last night when he was smiling at the end of the Creighton game, I thought is this guy kidding me?
He is a great guy I'm sure, but UCLA warned SJU about Lavin and nobody listened. They couldn't have been more on point. It is time to start doing better than OK and Lavin is not the answer.
SJU Fans, stop settling for OK.
Too many Big East teams have adopted this "WE DO OK!" attitude and have settled for less. With Lavin SJU will continue to probably do less than OK. A guy like Purnell, who is probably a wonderful human being, should have been gone yesterday. But again, it's the "WE DO OK!" attitude that keeps these guys around.
Bottom line is last year with guys like Sanchez and Sampson on the roster, MOST coaches who do better than OK, would have taken that team to the Sweet 16. Lavin doesn't even dance. Last year SHOULD have been the big indicator, but for some reason people don't see this. So why are people so surprised about what is going on this year? On paper, last year was the better team.
Bringing in another Top 50 guy should not save Lavin's job, he has done it before, and his teams still underperform on the court. SJU, New York's team, the team that calls MSG home, should no longer try to do OK. Lavin needs to go. Last night when he was smiling at the end of the Creighton game, I thought is this guy kidding me?
He is a great guy I'm sure, but UCLA warned SJU about Lavin and nobody listened. They couldn't have been more on point. It is time to start doing better than OK and Lavin is not the answer.
SJU Fans, stop settling for OK.
SJU14
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Anybody else see Lavin laughing and smiling as he shook hands with the other coach at the end of the game? It looked like he was telling some jokes, and McDermott wasn't having it.
It seems like with what Lavin said recently about not having pressure to win here, these terrible post game quotes and situations like this, he clearly isn't taking this job seriously. He has no desire to win and no desire to make these kids better. He's working for a paycheck and that's it. That's why we need to go in a different direction with this program. That's without even considering the results on the court.
It seems like with what Lavin said recently about not having pressure to win here, these terrible post game quotes and situations like this, he clearly isn't taking this job seriously. He has no desire to win and no desire to make these kids better. He's working for a paycheck and that's it. That's why we need to go in a different direction with this program. That's without even considering the results on the court.
He should have been fired long ago. He is in charge of one of the most incompetent, mind-numbing, side shows, otherwise know as the athletic department.
Even before Lavin, the AD must go. Bring in someone who understands responsibility and accountability. If the new president believes a successful basketball program is vital to the university's mass appeal, nothing short of cleaning out the athletic department will suffice.
beast of the east
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I could give a flying crap what his demeanor or public statements are after a loss if we were 5-2 in conference. Scrutinizing every thing that comes out of his mouth or if he smiles after a tough loss when congratulating the other coach is pure bs. Criticize the collapse and put the appropriate blame on the staff - the rest is garbage.
Ray Morgan
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Couldn't agree more. A lot of people are starting to over think this, including making statements that Lavin doesn't care, is lazy, doesn't want to win, etc. People who reach his level are by nature very competitive. No one, especially those in the spotlight, doesn't care about losing. I know D Lo cares, evidenced by his slamming the ball after catching some of Creighton's clean threes that went through the net.
Really enjoyed the pregame show segment "meet the Johnnies" where Lavin was interviewed and said that he enjoys "attending Sunday matinees and doing yoga, anything to get me away from basketball". If I'm the boss, nothing like hearing your highly paid underachieving employee talk about how badly he wants to get away from his job.
Mostly true, would argue 3 point defense and half-court scoring in last 10 minutes are an issue in almost every game (wins and losses). Those aside, he's right, myriad factors seem to develop game to game. Team and staff not just bystanders to these issues that present themselves, however, all ties back to inability to develop and sustain consistency.
basketballjones
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It's enticing to have one of the Hurleys and they'd recruit better locally right away, but I suspect either of them would leave at the first sign of success in the Big East for a bigger school with a bigger budget. Cluess, however, may think that having the St. John's job is the one he'd stay in a long time. We would certainly see better quality coaching.