NCAA Tournament Thread

PHILADELPHIA - Matt Farrell came out of Point Pleasant Beach High School as a consensus two-star basketball recruit. He barely played as a freshman at Notre Dame last winter.

Yet there he was last weekend, logging eight points and four assists to help the Fighting Irish squeeze past Stephen F. Austin in the second round of the NCAA Tournament.

In this transfer-heavy sport, some guys pack up and leave over playing time. At Notre Dame, they buckle down and improve.

That’s a big reason why Farrell and the Irish are playing in Friday’s Sweet 16 against Wisconsin. Their roster isn’t loaded with former blue-chip prospects. In fact, a recent Sports Illustrated study gave head coach Mike Brey the highest marks in the country for finding and developing underrecruited talent.

“He’s had a track record for that, finding guys that fit the culture, that fit his way of playing, and he molds them into great players,” Farrell said Thursday during an interview session at the Wells Fargo Center. “It’s a great place to be, great people to be around. He creates a good environment that you want to play in.”

Notre Dame head coach Mike Brey watches college basketball
For Rutgers basketball fans wondering what their program might look like if new coach Steve Pikiell’s vision comes to fruition, this is it. Notre Dame is a perennial contender under Brey, whose career arc is similar to Pikiell’s: Brey came up the ranks as an assistant at powerhouse Duke (Pikiell at UConn), then ran his own mid-major shop with great success at Delaware (Pikiell at Stony Brook) before making the leap to a big stage.


“I have a great staff, and I have a staff who has been with me for a while, so we kind of know how to earmark guys and find them,” Brey said Thursday when asked about his system’s success. “There's a guy that we've injected into the starting lineup in Matt Farrell that fits the bill. We signed him late a couple of years ago, and he was great (last week). He's gotten better and been patient.”

It should be noted: 15 years ago, Brey took over a Notre Dame program coming off a 22-win season. Pikiell inherits a 7-25 disaster. But in Pikiell’s introductory press conference Tuesday, he made it a point to highlight talent evaluation and player development as two unsung skills in a coach’s toolbox.

Mike Brey has sharpened those tools to perfection.

“You come into this program, you learn and you adjust,” Farrell said. “It’s all about the culture here.”


During Rutgers’ coaching search there was copious bleating about the need to “recruit, recruit, recruit.” Well, Rutgers recruited blue-chippers over the past decade: Mike Rosario, Greg Echenique, Kadeem Jack, Jerome Seagears, Corey Sanders and transfers Jonathan Mitchell, Wally Judge and Deshawn Freeman. They’ve had 10 straight losing seasons, too.

Meanwhile, Notre Dame is favored to make a second straight Elite Eight with a starting lineup consisting of zero five-star recruits and a bunch of late bloomers.


“We love guys that have been with us four and sometimes five years and get better,” Brey said. “And I think it's interesting, the program we're playing (Wisconsin), they do it the same way."

Notre Dame’s standout forward Zack August, who is shooting 70 percent from the field in seven career NCAA Tournament games, averaged 3.7 points as a freshman and 6.7 as a sophomore.

“I’m very, very proud of him, but he gave himself to us,” said Brey, who was the first high-major coach to recruit the New England native. “He’s a four-year guy who let us coach him.”

Pikiell’s right. Identifying and developing talent matters a great deal, and for programs that are never going to beat out Duke and Kentucky or even Villanova and Ohio State for recruits, that can make all the difference. The proof will take the floor today in Philly.
 
The sweet 16 has been awful. But I think it's a nessecary prelude to some potential classic elite eight games. Nova/Kansas and Oklahoma/Oregon are going to be awesome games. Virginia/Gonzaga as well (banking on it being that lol)
 
And a very underwhelming Notre dame team is going to the elite eight, Xavier is at home kicking themselves right now...
 
Meanwhile Syracuse is causing all sorts of trouble for the Zags
Just goes to show how important coaching is. This Cuse team looked like garbage against one of the worst johnnie teams I've seen in 25 years
But coached by Hopkins not Boeheim
 
Just a question. Most of the announcers are affiliated with the Acc, When the referees are looking at the monitor to review a play, i've noticed the announcers are Very loud in their opinion, Are the Referees in earshot ?
 
Absolutely embarrassing choke job by Gonzaga. Credit to Syracuse for their play at the end of the game, they deserved it, but Gonzaga was awful at the end.
 
I don't know but having four ACC teams on one side of the bracket is really depressing.
 
Notre Dame played an 11, 14, and 7 seed to get to the elite eight

Syracuse played a 7, 15, and 11


I feel sick to my stomach. Syracuse and Notre Dame are both not elite eight quality teams. Hell they aren't even second weekend quality teams. But that's March I guess
 
Well, they deserve it quite frankly. Sure, some of these ACC teams have had a pretty easy paths to the Elite 8, but they took full advantage of it. Two of our teams played their one seeds, both lost. Seton Hall lost to Gonzaga. Xavier lost to Wisconsin and had they won that likely would've beaten ND.

The most important games are still to be played. A national championship is worth more than anything and Nova has a legit shot. Nova is the one thing keeping this tournament from really sucking. I'm tuning out of the tournament if they're eliminated.
 
Notre Dame played an 11, 14, and 7 seed to get to the elite eight

Syracuse played a 7, 15, and 11


I feel sick to my stomach. Syracuse and Notre Dame are both not elite eight quality teams. Hell they aren't even second weekend quality teams. But that's March I guess

Yeah it does suck but Xavier and Seton Hall did nothing but help the ACC teams and lost to the same teams that the ACC beat.
 
Well, they deserve it quite frankly. Sure, some of these ACC teams have had a pretty easy paths to the Elite 8, but they took full advantage of it. Two of our teams played their one seeds, both lost. Seton Hall lost to Gonzaga. Xavier lost to Wisconsin and had they won that likely would've beaten ND.

The most important games are still to be played. A national championship is worth more than anything and Nova has a legit shot. Nova is the one thing keeping this tournament from really sucking. I'm tuning out of the tournament if they're eliminated.


Yea they took advantage but it's just frustrating they were gift wrapped these oppurtunites. Butler and Providence both easily could've done this had they gotten these paths laid out for them. But they were on the 8/9 line which pretty much guaranteed an early exit
 
Well, they deserve it quite frankly. Sure, some of these ACC teams have had a pretty easy paths to the Elite 8, but they took full advantage of it. Two of our teams played their one seeds, both lost. Seton Hall lost to Gonzaga. Xavier lost to Wisconsin and had they won that likely would've beaten ND.

The most important games are still to be played. A national championship is worth more than anything and Nova has a legit shot. Nova is the one thing keeping this tournament from really sucking. I'm tuning out of the tournament if they're eliminated.


Yea they took advantage but it's just frustrating they were gift wrapped these oppurtunites. Butler and Providence both easily could've done this had they gotten these paths laid out for them. But they were on the 8/9 line which pretty much guaranteed an early exit

That's true. Fortunately, for the Big East's sake, Nova has already had a very successful run and we shouldn't hear about them choking moving forward. It just sucks to see the ACC going off like this.

If Nova wins it all (or any team besides an ACC team), that's still worth more than anything the ACC has done this tournament. So let's all cheer on Nova tomorrow and hope for the best.
 
Well, they deserve it quite frankly. Sure, some of these ACC teams have had a pretty easy paths to the Elite 8, but they took full advantage of it. Two of our teams played their one seeds, both lost. Seton Hall lost to Gonzaga. Xavier lost to Wisconsin and had they won that likely would've beaten ND.

The most important games are still to be played. A national championship is worth more than anything and Nova has a legit shot. Nova is the one thing keeping this tournament from really sucking. I'm tuning out of the tournament if they're eliminated.


Yea they took advantage but it's just frustrating they were gift wrapped these oppurtunites. Butler and Providence both easily could've done this had they gotten these paths laid out for them. But they were on the 8/9 line which pretty much guaranteed an early exit

That's true. Fortunately, for the Big East's sake, Nova has already had a very successful run and we shouldn't hear about them choking moving forward. It just sucks to see the ACC going off like this.

If Nova wins it all (or any team besides an ACC team), that's still worth more than anything the ACC has done this tournament. So let's all cheer on Nova tomorrow and hope for the best.

Kansas is the best team in this tournament. If nova wins it'll be without a doubt the best win Jay Wright has ever gotten at Villanova. I'd love to see it
 
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