NCAA Tournament Thread

mm52 post=427485 said:
seeing what has happened to the B10, consider if you were a fan of Belmont

here is Dick Vitale's take:BELMONT with 26 W’s should have been part of ⁦marchmadness, but system is stacked against them as no way can they get the Quad 1 W’s in the Ohio Valley . A great great yr should have been rewarded.
Belmont didn't even get an NIT nod
 
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The NCAA does this every year - takes the 5th or 6th or 7th or 8th or 9th team from a Power 5+ conference instead of a good mid-major that didn't win its conference tournament. 

It's abundantly clear that more mid-majors deserve to be in the tournament ... but money talks I guess.
 
lawmanfan post=427502 said:
The NCAA does this every year - takes the 5th or 6th or 7th or 8th or 9th team from a Power 5+ conference instead of a good mid-major that didn't win its conference tournament. 


 
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Right.  And with that said, I am still perplexed that we, as the 4th to 6th best team in the BE did not get a bid, but Michigan State did!
 
Is there any other sporting event where the more good teams lose, the better the event is deemed to be?

Like we all want the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.  No one wanted the 7th team in(the bears) to go anywhere.  But man we all want Albin Christian to keep winning and winning.

its very strange.


 
 
mm52 post=427505 said:
lawmanfan post=427502 said:
The NCAA does this every year - takes the 5th or 6th or 7th or 8th or 9th team from a Power 5+ conference instead of a good mid-major that didn't win its conference tournament. 

 
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Right.  And with that said, I am still perplexed that we, as the 4th to 6th best team in the BE did not get a bid, but Michigan State did!
 
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I'd hazard a guess that there's a reason it's the "Power 5" and not the "Power 6."  As much as we hoopheads hate it, football drives the bus.  We just get to ride in it.
 
As with many things in the NCAA, the NET ranking system is broken. This was, of course, a strange year but the Big 10 and Big 12 were "anointed" as the top conferences early on. Subsequently, almost all games in those conferences were quad 1 or quad 2 games and 75% of their teams were ranked. Other conferences, including the Big East and PAC 12, had few opportunities to improve their rankings because all the quad 1 teams that were in those two conferences. Even close losses probably improved their rankings more than big wins in other conferences.

Watching Big 10 and Big 12 teams flame out in spectacular fashion has made this tournament all the more enjoyable for me. I hope this doesn't make me a bad person...
 
Duke of Earlington post=427506 said:
Is there any other sporting event where the more good teams lose, the better the event is deemed to be?

Like we all want the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.  No one wanted the 7th team in(the bears) to go anywhere.  But man we all want Albin Christian to keep winning and winning.

its very strange.

Only thing that comes close for me, is when I was a kid watching WWF wrestling and thinking the scrubs had an actual shot at winning against a villan. You know, Frank Williams, SD Jones, Steve Lombardi



 
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RedStormNC post=427526 said:
Duke of Earlington post=427506 said:
Is there any other sporting event where the more good teams lose, the better the event is deemed to be?

Like we all want the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.  No one wanted the 7th team in(the bears) to go anywhere.  But man we all want Albin Christian to keep winning and winning.

its very strange.

Only thing that comes close for me, is when I was a kid watching WWF wrestling and thinking the scrubs had an actual shot at winning against a villan. You know, Frank Williams, SD Jones, Steve Lombardi




 
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA.  Iron Mike Sharpe
 
RedStormNC post=427526
Duke of said:
Is there any other sporting event where the more good teams lose, the better the event is deemed to be?

Like we all want the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.  No one wanted the 7th team in(the bears) to go anywhere.  But man we all want Albin Christian to keep winning and winning.

its very strange.

Only thing that comes close for me, is when I was a kid watching WWF wrestling and thinking the scrubs had an actual shot at winning against a villan. You know, Frank Williams, SD Jones, Steve Lombardi
 
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The whole show was littered with matches like that. There must not have been many other viewing options for them to stay on the air as long as they did under that business model.

I root for the underdog in college football, but I feel like most people want Clemson and Alabama every year. 

World Cup in conducive to rooting for underdog since U.S. is generally unsuccessful.

 
 
For Adam as we talked about ratings before the dance.
  • While viewership for the NCAA men's tourney is down only 3% from 2019 through Sunday, expect a tough task ahead for CBS and Turner Sports in matching audience numbers from two years ago, SBJ's Austin Karp writes. The average seed for teams still in the Dance is 5.88. Two years ago, 15 of 16 teams advancing were seeded 1-5. The tournament also lost eight of nine Big Ten teams in the first two rounds, and that conference drove regular season viewership for the sport across all major network partners.
 
Moose, hence why they put too many of those shitty teams into the field to begin with.  Ratings rule I guess.  
 
MCNPA post=427589 said:
Moose, hence why they put too many of those shitty teams into the field to begin with.  Ratings rule I guess.  
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I wish NCAA would eliminate the auto qualifiers and just put the best 68 teams in the field, I think it would make the tournament much better and the regular season much better as well, because it would force good mid-major teams with NCAA hopes to schedule tougher, rather than just scheduling a couple of high major games in non-conference and just bank on winning their conference tournament. 

It's unfair a team can play in a tough conference and play good teams almost every night and have a record of 20-11 or something like that and miss the tournament, but a team that's 16-16 that played nothing but bad teams all year long can make the tournament because they beat really bad teams in a conference tournament.  

And it's also unfair in the sense that if you play in a tough conference your team is getting beat up and worn down every single game, however if you're a team like Colgate you're beating teams by 20+ every night and your best players are super fresh going into the tournament.  
 
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I used to feel that way, but as time passed I came to respect that there are smaller programs that have a chance at an upset.  Seeing a few already this year made it worth it.

though, if I did have my choice. I'd rather see the regular season conf champs get the bids vs conf tourney winners.  
 
 
Making Plays post=427590 said:
MCNPA post=427589 said:
Moose, hence why they put too many of those shitty teams into the field to begin with.  Ratings rule I guess.  
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I wish NCAA would eliminate the auto qualifiers and just put the best 68 teams in the field, I think it would make the tournament much better and the regular season much better as well, because it would force good mid-major teams with NCAA hopes to schedule tougher, rather than just scheduling a couple of high major games in non-conference and just bank on winning their conference tournament. 

It's unfair a team can play in a tough conference and play good teams almost every night and have a record of 20-11 or something like that and miss the tournament, but a team that's 16-16 that played nothing but bad teams all year long can make the tournament because they beat really bad teams in a conference tournament.  

And it's also unfair in the sense that if you play in a tough conference your team is getting beat up and worn down every single game, however if you're a team like Colgate you're beating teams by 20+ every night and your best players are super fresh going into the tournament.  
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Colgate was especially egregious example this year. They played Army 4 times, BU 4 times and Holy Cross 4 times
 
I like what Charles Barkley said when asked about where Colgate was located . Charles said “ in Aisle 4 under Toothpaste .”  Or something close to that . 
 
ESuhr post=427515 said:
Watching Big 10 and Big 12 teams flame out in spectacular fashion has made this tournament all the more enjoyable for me. I hope this doesn't make me a bad person...
 
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Not al atll.  It makes you a saint!  ;)
 
Making Plays post=427590 said:
MCNPA post=427589 said:
Moose, hence why they put too many of those shitty teams into the field to begin with.  Ratings rule I guess.  
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I wish NCAA would eliminate the auto qualifiers and just put the best 68 teams in the field, I think it would make the tournament much better and the regular season much better as well, because it would force good mid-major teams with NCAA hopes to schedule tougher, rather than just scheduling a couple of high major games in non-conference and just bank on winning their conference tournament. 

It's unfair a team can play in a tough conference and play good teams almost every night and have a record of 20-11 or something like that and miss the tournament, but a team that's 16-16 that played nothing but bad teams all year long can make the tournament because they beat really bad teams in a conference tournament.  

And it's also unfair in the sense that if you play in a tough conference your team is getting beat up and worn down every single game, however if you're a team like Colgate you're beating teams by 20+ every night and your best players are super fresh going into the tournament. 
 
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Disrespectfully disagree.  If you can't finish in the top half of your conference in the regular season or win your conference tournament you should be automatically disqualified from the tourney.  The regular season has to count for something.  There was no reason for Mich St or Maryland to be in the tourney.  Same for Tx Tech and OK.  It's not the automatic bids that are the problem, it's the mediocre power 5 teams.  Let the cream of your conference rep your conference. 
 
Maurice Calloo (who Johnnies showed some mild interest in at one point) just picked up  charge for Oregon State. Loyola ice cold from three but playing suffocating defense. 
 
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