Mullin Update

This thread has been as useless as any I have ever seen. We all knew, or should have when the season started, that this was going to be a brutal year. You can't make a silk scarf out of a sows ear. Well we are now into our season and it has been bad. We have to just suck it up and realize this is part of a process as we convulse through and from a putrid program into a high level program. They're growing pains and that is what we are experiencing right now.We all should have known they were coming.

We have a great coach, a super coaching staff, and they have some wonderful recruits coming in. They had to throw together enough bodies to play the season. We have had injuries, guys playing out of position. They are young, most new to the college game let alone playing with each other. Why is it so difficult to just get through this season. The kids aren't happy the coaches aren't happy but these are the cards we are holding until this season finishes.
I think as fans of this team, the greatest thing we can do right now is to root them on. Trying to figure out whether the coach speaks to the team enough, or if he wears the wrong kind of shirt, or shoes or anything else is counter productive. I know I am going to get blasted for this post, but enough is enough. Let's get behind our guys and our coaches and support them through the rest of this year. I am betting things are going to get much better!

Nice job Frank! Very nice!!
Bottom line, top line, any way you look at it
from a optimistic/realistic perspective:

We have a terrific staff in place
Recruiting already moving into high gear
Future absolutely bright!
Like our own kids' phases ( babies, teens, young adults) growing pains understandable & tolerable
IMO
We are St John's
We are looking good, very good
The lousiness and disappointment of the last two decades...washing away
:)
all the best
 
It is pretty basic; the head coach hires the assistants and delegates their responsibilities. The buck stops with the head coach who lives or is fired based upon the results achieved by his assistants.

I really don't care whether the head coach or an assistant talks during time outs as long as the team plays in an efficient and motivated manner. Likewise I could care less how much time the head coach recruits so long as the assistants work hard and are effective in their results.

So yeah, I was a bit critical of the tan TV Announcer when he was the StJohn's head coach but I never criticized him because Dunlap was seemingly the "X's and O's" because the Announcer was responsible for hiring Dunlap and because the team played cohesive basketball.

Likewise I could care less if Mullin or St.Jean "X' and O'" this season because I believe that this underpowered team is playing about as well as can be expected.

This ridiculous debate exists because loyal fans are frustrated.
 
the debate was horrifically heading towards a Chris Rock quote "Don't argue! You cannot win, you cannot beat a woman in a arguement. It's impossble you will not win. Cause men, we are handicapped when it comes to arguing cause we have a need to make sense" but glad that it was averted ...

On your quote "evolution insures that over the long haul stupid ideas kill off the stupid people who thought of them" however, if one prescribes to the multi-level selection evolutionary theory then it is quite possible for stupid ideas like fundamentalism, blind patriotism or even stupid people like Steve Lavin to survive ...

Of course my exchange with good old MJM was all in good fun and I am fortunate it played out as a draw. My motive - and everyone has one - is to ridicule those who doubt Mullin's ability to master as simple a matter as coaching college basketball and to make sure that nothing nice is said about Lavin, ever. Because Lavin sucked.

As to evolution, it's a crock. Darwin said if he was right there'd be evidence in the fossil record to prove his theory and there is not. No less an authority than Stephen Jay Gould admitted the whole thing was nonsense. That's why its proponents spray-painted moths and stapled them to trees: because there's less evidence of OJ's innocence than there is for Darwinism. Man is the most pernicious species of vermin nature has ever suffered to crawl across the face of the earth. If homo sapiens is the apex of natural selection then Gaia is insane.

I agree but i think Darwin was a necessary step in the scheme of things. Man is pernicious and the most prolific specie to occupy and colonize this planet. The infestation must stop with Steve Lavin. I think the epigenecists have pushed the boundary of redefining the understanding of evolution to the right direction. like Chris Mullin.
 
http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=542844483

the sweater thing and Mullin's fordham comments were pretty funny ( IN A GOOD WAY )
 
http://www.nycgo.com/articles/chris-mullin-interview

When Chris Mullin took over as head coach of the St. John's men's basketball team before this season, he wasn't merely a new face coming in to preside over a rebuilding process; he was a conquering hero returning home.
For the uninitiated: Mullin is one of the greatest basketball players to ever come out of New York City—a Brooklyn kid who became a two-time college All-American at St. John's, starred for the Golden State Warriors in the NBA, played with Michael Jordan on the Dream Team and is now in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
On the occasion of the NCAA Tournament coming to New York—first- and second-round games in Brooklyn at Barclays Center this year followed by the East Regionals at Madison Square Garden in 2017—Mullin took a few minutes to talk about his, and the City's, love of basketball.
How is basketball different in New York City than anywhere else?
Chris Mullin: It's played everywhere all the time, and a lot of kids have that dream of climbing the ladder and playing at the highest level. It's also a social thing. Even the people that don't play seem to love to follow the local kids' progress—and with the Garden here and the tremendous history of great players and coaches, it's really just part of our culture.
You won the Big East Tournament—and its MVP award—at Madison Square Garden in 1983. This year (March 9–12) will be your first tournament as a coach. How will it be different?
CM: It's night and day, you know? I'm aware that the greatest part of my life was when I played. You're never going to have that back—just cherish those moments. And I let the kids who are playing now know that this is the best time of your life. Everything else…you can find something that's good, but playing is great. And I realize that. I always have. I tried to do it as long as I could. Getting old is not the most fun thing in the world, but if you do it with some grace, you can still enjoy it.
How did playing on NYC's public courts shape you as a player?
CM: Growing up in Brooklyn, I played a lot of CYO [Catholic Youth Organization] basketball and had incredible coaches teaching me fundamentals. When I went to high school in Manhattan, I started playing in the parks and in AAU [Amateur Athletic Union] basketball throughout every borough. And that's where I picked up more freelance street basketball and combined it with my fundamentals.
Probably the biggest thing was confidence; I was going into unfamiliar territory against unfamiliar players in different neighborhoods. When you do that, you have to prove yourself or you're not welcome back—or you get ridiculed and you don't want to come back.
Where can visitors go to see players trying to prove themselves today, once the weather warms up?
CM: I'd say the two places that stick out to me would be Rucker Park, and I always love walking past West 4th Street. What's better than watching some park basketball and then going to John's Pizzeria on Bleecker Street? What else could you ask for?
Growing up in Brooklyn, did you ever imagine there'd be an NBA team or NCAA tournament games in your home borough?
CM: Very rarely do you experience miracles, but to me it's actually a miracle that there's a beautiful Barclays Center arena on Flatbush Avenue and Atlantic Avenue. I grew up in that neighborhood—even when I heard [plans about the arena], I thought it was impossible. When I think back to taking the train to high school and driving through that neighborhood when I was a kid—to see that place there is really remarkable.
What makes New York City home for you?
CM: I spent all my formative years here—growing up in Brooklyn, going to high school in Manhattan and Brooklyn, going to college in Queens and playing all over the city. That's the biggest influence on the rest of your life.
It gives you an education beyond anything you can learn in a classroom. If you just plop yourself in any neighborhood in New York, the most beautiful thing is to see the wide variety of people from different backgrounds, different cultures, all over the world—everyone comes through, lives in, does business and socializes in New York City. When you bump into people from all over, it gives you not only an education of what they've been through but also an appreciation that there's more out there than just your little world. It gives you a perspective of life—how you're just one person, and everyone has their trials and tribulations.
For more information about the upcoming NCAA Tournament games in New York City, see our 2016 and 2017 visitor guides.
 
Seems like he badgers the officials a lot...do you guys agree with this approach, sometimes i think being a little kiss ass to the officials is more beneficial.
 
Seems like he badgers the officials a lot...do you guys agree with this approach, sometimes i think being a little kiss ass to the officials is more beneficial.

It works for rat face at Duke
 
Seems like he badgers the officials a lot...do you guys agree with this approach, sometimes i think being a little kiss ass to the officials is more beneficial.
Didn't seem to work in the Nova and X games, almost seemed like the refs had it out for us.
 
Probably will get bashed for even sort of joking about this. Almost posted this last week before their win but I kinda feel Mullin should get a small consideration for coach of the year honors. Without a true pg all year to have some really close losses to some top clubs is pretty remarkable. I thought we would lose by 30 plus to pretty much the entire big east after Lovett wasn't playing at all. Again this is sort of tongue in cheek but I really did not think we would be competitive without the point guard to stabilize us.
 
Probably will get bashed for even sort of joking about this. Almost posted this last week before their win but I kinda feel Mullin should get a small consideration for coach of the year honors. Without a true pg all year to have some really close losses to some top clubs is pretty remarkable. I thought we would lose by 30 plus to pretty much the entire big east after Lovett wasn't playing at all. Again this is sort of tongue in cheek but I really did not think we would be competitive without the point guard to stabilize us.

A glass half full guy I suspect. :)
 
Probably will get bashed for even sort of joking about this. Almost posted this last week before their win but I kinda feel Mullin should get a small consideration for coach of the year honors. Without a true pg all year to have some really close losses to some top clubs is pretty remarkable. I thought we would lose by 30 plus to pretty much the entire big east after Lovett wasn't playing at all. Again this is sort of tongue in cheek but I really did not think we would be competitive without the point guard to stabilize us.

A glass half full guy I suspect. :)
more like moonshine jug overflowing :)
 
Probably will get bashed for even sort of joking about this. Almost posted this last week before their win but I kinda feel Mullin should get a small consideration for coach of the year honors. Without a true pg all year to have some really close losses to some top clubs is pretty remarkable. I thought we would lose by 30 plus to pretty much the entire big east after Lovett wasn't playing at all. Again this is sort of tongue in cheek but I really did not think we would be competitive without the point guard to stabilize us.

A glass half full guy I suspect. :)

Lol
 
Probably will get bashed for even sort of joking about this. Almost posted this last week before their win but I kinda feel Mullin should get a small consideration for coach of the year honors. Without a true pg all year to have some really close losses to some top clubs is pretty remarkable. I thought we would lose by 30 plus to pretty much the entire big east after Lovett wasn't playing at all. Again this is sort of tongue in cheek but I really did not think we would be competitive without the point guard to stabilize us.

A glass half full guy I suspect. :)
more like moonshine jug overflowing :)

Sounds like it lol
 
Probably will get bashed for even sort of joking about this. Almost posted this last week before their win but I kinda feel Mullin should get a small consideration for coach of the year honors. Without a true pg all year to have some really close losses to some top clubs is pretty remarkable. I thought we would lose by 30 plus to pretty much the entire big east after Lovett wasn't playing at all. Again this is sort of tongue in cheek but I really did not think we would be competitive without the point guard to stabilize us.

A glass half full guy I suspect. :)
more like moonshine jug overflowing :)

Sounds like it lol
I give you a +1 for having a sense of humor and not getting down and dirty like the rest of us :)
 
Mullin and two assistants were at Mount St. Michael on Tuesday night to watch the CHSAA playoffs featuring 2017s Jordan Tucker of Archbishop Stepinac and Sid Wilson and Isaiah Washington of St. Raymond's.

The 6-foot-7 Tucker is a top priority for St. John's in 2017, while the school has yet offer Wilson and Washington, according to St. Ray's coach Jorge Lopez.

Meantime, Slice Rohrssen was at South Kent practice for 2017 point guard Tremont Waters, a Top 100 player in that class.

St. John's remains in it for 2016 guard Rawle Alkins and 7-footer Thon Maker, who are both expected to decide late.

Adam Zagoria
Adam Zagoria – ‏@AdamZagoria

Mullin, St. John's Out Recruiting Class of 2017 Stars
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Mullin and two assistants were at Mount St. Michael on Tuesday night to watch the CHSAA playoffs featuring 2017s Jordan Tucker of Archbishop Stepinac and Sid Wilson and Isaiah Washington of St. Raymond's.

The 6-foot-7 Tucker is a top priority for St. John's in 2017, while the school has yet offer Wilson and Washington, according to St. Ray's coach Jorge Lopez.

Meantime, Slice Rohrssen was at South Kent practice for 2017 point guard Tremont Waters, a Top 100 player in that class.

St. John's remains in it for 2016 guard Rawle Alkins and 7-footer Thon Maker, who are both expected to decide late.

Adam Zagoria
Adam Zagoria – ‏@AdamZagoria

Mullin, St. John's Out Recruiting Class of 2017 Stars
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Certainly enough talent in the tri-state area to keep our hard working staff busy. Thought we had offered Wilson. Guess not. We haven't really been mentioned with Washington before. Maybe we're starting to get involved.
 
Crazy to say but not enough ships for 2017.
For next season we have :
3 freshmen- Ponds, Lovett and Richard
5 sophomores - Mussini, Malik, Yakwe, Sima and Owens
3 juniors- Ahmed, Williams and Amar
1senior - CJ
And they say staff is still recruiting for 2016.
Very hard to know who to give the ship to for 2017. After Jarvasss, Norm and Lavin I never thought we would have such a problem. I like the position we are in.
 
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