If it was 1 or 2 players it wont be so bad. Hooper ,CO,Greene transferring and Sampson leaving when it doesn't look like he will sniff the NBA plus 0 recruits signed so far. Opposing coaches are having a field day w this. Plus the possibility if more defections, plus the question about who will coach next year. Who would have thaught the program would be like this after year 4 ?
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basketballjones
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I think Fran would do a good job and I think he'd handle success a little differently now. He was looking for the next job right after he got to St. John's. But I would rather see a mid major coach who has run a program before for whom a Big East job would be their next step. Danny Hurley would be able to coach and recruit.
westchesterjoe
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It would be unfortunate if Greene transferred out..Not entirely for his playing ability but, more to the point that the Program is disintegrating. The way the team finished, losing nearly every important game and not showing up for Robt Morris are symptoms of disarray that starts at the top..
We've seen enough of Lavin coaching to know he's not up to this job. It's not enough to recruit Kids if you cant' coach them. Even the most ardent Lavin fan has to fairly assess his Coaching here as a failure. He brought recruits that didn't develop as a team, that's on him. He just is not a good Coach and, we are paying him like he is near the top of his profession. He's not.
The problem now is that the UNIVERSITY has a interim President, a seemingly out the door AD and no one taking command of this catastrophe happening with the team..
Any top tier Coaching replacement will soon be gobbled up by other schools. The Championship game tonite will signal the next round of Coaching changes.
I believe when the other show falls Tuesday or, later this week.. Lavin will gracefully resign, with a nice $$$package. The transfers and defections tell us , at least 3 players, did not want a repeat of this season, next year, if Lavin stayed. Their leaving the school speaks volumes about Lavin.
We've seen enough of Lavin coaching to know he's not up to this job. It's not enough to recruit Kids if you cant' coach them. Even the most ardent Lavin fan has to fairly assess his Coaching here as a failure. He brought recruits that didn't develop as a team, that's on him. He just is not a good Coach and, we are paying him like he is near the top of his profession. He's not.
The problem now is that the UNIVERSITY has a interim President, a seemingly out the door AD and no one taking command of this catastrophe happening with the team..
Any top tier Coaching replacement will soon be gobbled up by other schools. The Championship game tonite will signal the next round of Coaching changes.
I believe when the other show falls Tuesday or, later this week.. Lavin will gracefully resign, with a nice $$$package. The transfers and defections tell us , at least 3 players, did not want a repeat of this season, next year, if Lavin stayed. Their leaving the school speaks volumes about Lavin.
I think bringing Fran back would fit perfectly under the subject heading as we would be:
1. Bringing back a coach who was fired from here for:
A. Verbally abusing players and staff
B. Trying to get the Texas (the job he really wanted) and Arizona State job after two years here.
You can decide what upset Father Harrington more.
2. Was fired after three years at his next job, New Mexico for less than stellar performance on the court.
3. Has not coached in over ten years, spending most of that time if not all as a broadcaster/commentator/analyst (and a very good one).
4. Has a reputation as a good recruiter and poor coach (been there done that).
5. Bringing in a coach who despite his record at Manhattan, the administration there was not unhappy to see him go.
DaninAlbany
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I have a question. I keep reading that we don't have a president of the University yet but wasn't Fr. Joseph Levesque installed in Septmenber of 2013 as president?
He is the interim president. Not supposed to be in that position for more than a year. He should be replaced with a permanent president by the Fall, if everything goes according to plan. However, there has been 0 communication from the University in months on the status of the search.
Some people on here have posted the name Simon as a lock to be the next president but with no last name, I have no idea who they are talking about.
I view Greene's possible transfer as a plus for him and SJU. His minutes will probably be cut drastically next year because of Jordan's increased time and Felix has to play significant minutes next year if he shows anything because he will return the following year. With the NCAA encouraging transfer Greene should be able to transfer close to home and play next year because of a sick relative.
I wouldn't look at Sampson's departure as a surprise either because he has seen his chances of playing in the NBA decrease the three years since high school. Unable to gain strength or improve his shooting his slim chance of being drafted this year would be even less next year. The transferring of O is a loss but in this climate approx. two players per Div. 1 school will transfer.
I wouldn't look at Sampson's departure as a surprise either because he has seen his chances of playing in the NBA decrease the three years since high school. Unable to gain strength or improve his shooting his slim chance of being drafted this year would be even less next year. The transferring of O is a loss but in this climate approx. two players per Div. 1 school will transfer.
If "Simon" means "Dean Michael Simons", he is the Dean of the law school, and FWIW, I think he'd be an excellent choice*. Not sure if that's who "Simon" refers to though.
*I have no idea if he'd be an excellent choice for the basketball program, but I would hope anyone who wants to advance the university knows what power a good basketball team can have in promoting the university name, which I am guessing he would realize.
There is nothing positive about what is going on here as far as player movement. It reflects poorly on the coaches and the school administration. Sampson I get, don't agree from a pure BB erspective but he wants to make some money, understandable. Aftet that, there has to be a story. And anyone who doesn't believe schools are knocking down Harrison and Jordan's doors must be getting their mail in Iowa. Don't think it behooves either to bolt; I assume both are thinking about making money after next year, but you never know.
hmy:Kid, you are absolutely correct. Dean Simons is the odds on favorite to be the next President. While he is not from outside the University, it will be the first time a priest will not be the President of St. John's.
Very interesting. Dean Simons is a very accomplished attorney who I am guessing is one of the younger Deans of a law school in the country. His father, Dean Andrew Simons, was/is a Dean of the law school for many years. Dean M. Simons has a lot of energy, has a lot of pride for St. John's (even though he attended Harvard for law school), and I think would be determined to make the University better and more highly regarded.
