Mitch Richmond

[quote="Paultzman" post=300242][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300241][quote="Paultzman" post=300239][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300238]Did we ever have a special assistant before keady? Omg my mind is so shot[/quote]
Willis Reed functioned as such way back when[/quote] really ? What years approx ? I’ve onky followed sju since 87. That’s pretty cool actually. I’m pretty sure my time at sju 88-92 we didn’t have one. But after that I really don’t remember[/quote]

Reed volunteered for one season I believe.

“Reed's accomplishments didn't end there. He was the first Knicks player to have his jersey retired. After his playing days were over, Reed took over as the coach for the 1977-78 season and managed to entice a 43-39 record out of his squad. He coached 14 games the next season before taking on an assistant coach position at St. John's, then as head coach at Creighton University from 1981-82 to 1984-85”[/quote] literally had no idea ever if that. Thanks !!!! What was his record at creigton ? There was a break in years ?
 
Willis really knew how to recruit. None of our current coaches have dated any recruits Moms. Maybe that’s the problem.
 
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[quote="mjmaherjr" post=300244][quote="Paultzman" post=300242][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300241][quote="Paultzman" post=300239][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300238]Did we ever have a special assistant before keady? Omg my mind is so shot[/quote]
Willis Reed functioned as such way back when[/quote] really ? What years approx ? I’ve onky followed sju since 87. That’s pretty cool actually. I’m pretty sure my time at sju 88-92 we didn’t have one. But after that I really don’t remember[/quote]

Reed volunteered for one season I believe.

“Reed's accomplishments didn't end there. He was the first Knicks player to have his jersey retired. After his playing days were over, Reed took over as the coach for the 1977-78 season and managed to entice a 43-39 record out of his squad. He coached 14 games the next season before taking on an assistant coach position at St. John's, then as head coach at Creighton University from 1981-82 to 1984-85”[/quote] literally had no idea ever if that. Thanks !!!! What was his record at creigton ? There was a break in years ?[/quote]

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-05-02/sports/sp-20370_1_willis-reed

Willis Reed resigned as coach of the Creighton University basketball team, saying he would be unable to build a competitive program without violating NCAA recruiting rules that other schools ignore.

"If you're going to stay in college basketball and be successful, you'll have to do some things I can't do, I won't do," Reed said. "I know we've lost kids consistently because of it. I find out down the line they have been offered things."

Reed, 42, played for the New York Knicks for 10 years and is a member of the NBA Hall of Fame. He compiled a 52-65 record at Creighton. His 1984-85 Bluejays were 20-12 but lost their last six games.

Reed would not name schools he believed violated rules. He cited Indiana University and St. John's University as schools that have built good basketball teams without violating rules.
 
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[quote="IDRAFT" post=300245]Willis really knew how to recruit. None of our current coaches have dated any recruits Moms. Maybe that’s the problem.[/quote]
Ha! Benoit Benjamin
 
I had completely forgotten that Willis ever coached at Creighton. I do recall him being at St. John's briefly but couldn't tell you when. Always loved the Captain.
 
After being invisible in the offseason, Mitch has a lot to do to convince me he is interested and capable of coaching college basketball. What exactly has he accomplished?
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=300167]A more involved Mitch can only help but he’d be a huge asset also recruiting. The wealth of knowledge he posssrs as well Mullin omg if utilized would be ridiculous. Still night not translate to wins but it can’t hurt[/quote]

Pardon my ignorance but what wealth of knowledge does Mitch possess. His claim to fame is being a great basketball player. What's his pertinent experience for the position of special assistant much less associate HC? Where did he acquire this wealth of knowledge. Sitting home watching TV and signing autographs in the 13 years of inactivity between retirement and joining Chris on the staff? At least Chris stayed attached to the game.

[quote="Beast of the East" post=300191]
We've also speculated a ton about this being a 12 month a year commitment. If that were completely true, how could a coach commit to coaching Olympic or national teams without hurting his own program, or spend time with family.
[/quote]
Dude, the season ended in early March and he returned in what, early September? That’s 6 months off. He was not active during the live recruiting periods in April and July, that would have been only 5 weeks of work if he went at it non stop. And to say his absence from the informal summer workouts is excusable is ludicrous. I think the only thing we all agree he should be good at is skill development and what better time to do that than during the summer when the coaches can only interact with a few players at a time anyway. Say he did that for a couple weeks in August. He’d still have had all of May and June off. SMDH
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=300197]Those who have criticized Mitch for nearly everything , except eating in the Cafeteria have a double standard when it comes to their evaluation of the Staff . Matt A has done a commendable job in recruiting . No argument there . But, does Matt attend practice and spend time Coaching Clarke on setting baseline Screens ? Or , assisting Simon on his free throws ? How about Matt working with Shamorie on fast break dunks ? Why not ? Because Matt isn’t a BB Coach or former Athlete and because his Job is Recruiting , not Coaching . Why can’t the critics cut Mitch the same break , since he does work with the Players on individual skills . As many have said , Chris Mullin is the only one who is in the position of evaluating Mitch Richmond and his contributions . Posters on here ? Hardly ![/quote]

To this the only response, besides laughter, is that at least by all accounts Matt has succeeded in what he was supposed to do since everyone keeps telling me this is the most talented roster in years if not decades. Compared to the crap product the “coaches” have put on the court the past 3 years especially. I will not, hoever, denigrate any specific players by pointing out the lack of improvement in certain analytics of the team to prove a point. Oh and he always seems to be working, and I’m sure he’s at practices when he’s not on the road recruiting.
[quote="Las Vegan" post=300228]Just a couple of comments re this subject.
A well thought out staffing plan would have the head coach hire three assistants who can both contribute at practice/games and have a niche in the recruiting efforts. That's the way most schools do it.
Let's get rid of this "special advisor" spot. If a young/inexperienced coach feels in need of a mentor, have one of your three assistants fill that role. Louie Orr functions in that role for Ewing[/quote]

What does eliminating a position do to strengthen the staff? Should they eliminate Grad Assistants and strength coaches as well, I mean STJ does have $$$ disadvantages right? Good thing they got rid of Zendon, oh wait he wasn’t paid. PS Ewing does have a former player, Jonathan Wallace, in the Special Assistant role.
 
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=300248]I had completely forgotten that Willis ever coached at Creighton. I do recall him being at St. John's briefly but couldn't tell you when. Always loved the Captain.[/quote]

I don't even know if there was a category of special assistant but the perception was that Reed wanted experience in coaching, and his special pupil was to be the much heralded "next coming" Wayne McKoy. I remember Looie heralding that Reed would be a great mentor to McKoy, who was a well known name from the time he was 12. McKoy for his part believed the NBA was in his future, even as he finished his SJU career. My seats were directly behind the SJU bench, and i never recall reed being vocal at all on the bench. McKoy has been said by at least one teammate to have refused conditioning drills such as running stairs in the gym, nor practicing hard. When questioned bu his teammates McKoy allegedly replied, "I'll learn that at the next level (nba)." Of course it didnt happen.

Pre redmen.com, we'd yell suggestions and criticisms to looie from the stands since we were so close. On occasion he'd turn around to us, wave his hand and say "you guys don't know what you're talking abouf!" We'd laugh. Ah, the good old days.
 
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[quote="austour" post=300251][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300167]A more involved Mitch can only help but he’d be a huge asset also recruiting. The wealth of knowledge he posssrs as well Mullin omg if utilized would be ridiculous. Still night not translate to wins but it can’t hurt[/quote]

Pardon my ignorance but what wealth of knowledge does Mitch possess. His claim to fame is being a great basketball player. What's his pertinent experience for the position of special assistant much less associate HC? Where did he acquire this wealth of knowledge. Sitting home watching TV and signing autographs in the 13 years of inactivity between retirement and joining Chris on the staff? At least Chris stayed attached to the game.

[quote="Beast of the East" post=300191]
We've also speculated a ton about this being a 12 month a year commitment. If that were completely true, how could a coach commit to coaching Olympic or national teams without hurting his own program, or spend time with family.
[/quote]
Dude, the season ended in early March and he returned in what, early September? That’s 6 months off. He was not active during the live recruiting periods in April and July, that would have been only 5 weeks of work if he went at it non stop. And to say his absence from the informal summer workouts is excusable is ludicrous. I think the only thing we all agree he should be good at is skill development and what better time to do that than during the summer when the coaches can only interact with a few players at a time anyway. Say he did that for a couple weeks in August. He’d still have had all of May and June off. SMDH
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=300197]Those who have criticized Mitch for nearly everything , except eating in the Cafeteria have a double standard when it comes to their evaluation of the Staff . Matt A has done a commendable job in recruiting . No argument there . But, does Matt attend practice and spend time Coaching Clarke on setting baseline Screens ? Or , assisting Simon on his free throws ? How about Matt working with Shamorie on fast break dunks ? Why not ? Because Matt isn’t a BB Coach or former Athlete and because his Job is Recruiting , not Coaching . Why can’t the critics cut Mitch the same break , since he does work with the Players on individual skills . As many have said , Chris Mullin is the only one who is in the position of evaluating Mitch Richmond and his contributions . Posters on here ? Hardly ![/quote]

To this the only response, besides laughter, is that at least by all accounts Matt has succeeded in what he was supposed to do since everyone keeps telling me this is the most talented roster in years if not decades. Compared to the crap product the “coaches” have put on the court the past 3 years especially. I will not, hoever, denigrate any specific players by pointing out the lack of improvement in certain analytics of the team to prove a point. Oh and he always seems to be working, and I’m sure he’s at practices when he’s not on the road recruiting.
[quote="Las Vegan" post=300228]Just a couple of comments re this subject.
A well thought out staffing plan would have the head coach hire three assistants who can both contribute at practice/games and have a niche in the recruiting efforts. That's the way most schools do it.
Let's get rid of this "special advisor" spot. If a young/inexperienced coach feels in need of a mentor, have one of your three assistants fill that role. Louie Orr functions in that role for Ewing[/quote]

What does eliminating a position do to strengthen the staff? Should they eliminate Grad Assistants and strength coaches as well, I mean STJ does have $$$ disadvantages right? Good thing they got rid of Zendon, oh wait he wasn’t paid. PS Ewing does have a former player, Jonathan Wallace, in the Special Assistant role.[/quote]

I know you're a travel agent, but you know mitch's whereabouts since april? I'm not disputing it, just amazed at the gps locations our fans have of our staff.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=300255][quote="austour" post=300251][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300167]A more involved Mitch can only help but he’d be a huge asset also recruiting. The wealth of knowledge he posssrs as well Mullin omg if utilized would be ridiculous. Still night not translate to wins but it can’t hurt[/quote]

Pardon my ignorance but what wealth of knowledge does Mitch possess. His claim to fame is being a great basketball player. What's his pertinent experience for the position of special assistant much less associate HC? Where did he acquire this wealth of knowledge. Sitting home watching TV and signing autographs in the 13 years of inactivity between retirement and joining Chris on the staff? At least Chris stayed attached to the game.

[quote="Beast of the East" post=300191]
We've also speculated a ton about this being a 12 month a year commitment. If that were completely true, how could a coach commit to coaching Olympic or national teams without hurting his own program, or spend time with family.
[/quote]
Dude, the season ended in early March and he returned in what, early September? That’s 6 months off. He was not active during the live recruiting periods in April and July, that would have been only 5 weeks of work if he went at it non stop. And to say his absence from the informal summer workouts is excusable is ludicrous. I think the only thing we all agree he should be good at is skill development and what better time to do that than during the summer when the coaches can only interact with a few players at a time anyway. Say he did that for a couple weeks in August. He’d still have had all of May and June off. SMDH
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=300197]Those who have criticized Mitch for nearly everything , except eating in the Cafeteria have a double standard when it comes to their evaluation of the Staff . Matt A has done a commendable job in recruiting . No argument there . But, does Matt attend practice and spend time Coaching Clarke on setting baseline Screens ? Or , assisting Simon on his free throws ? How about Matt working with Shamorie on fast break dunks ? Why not ? Because Matt isn’t a BB Coach or former Athlete and because his Job is Recruiting , not Coaching . Why can’t the critics cut Mitch the same break , since he does work with the Players on individual skills . As many have said , Chris Mullin is the only one who is in the position of evaluating Mitch Richmond and his contributions . Posters on here ? Hardly ![/quote]

To this the only response, besides laughter, is that at least by all accounts Matt has succeeded in what he was supposed to do since everyone keeps telling me this is the most talented roster in years if not decades. Compared to the crap product the “coaches” have put on the court the past 3 years especially. I will not, hoever, denigrate any specific players by pointing out the lack of improvement in certain analytics of the team to prove a point. Oh and he always seems to be working, and I’m sure he’s at practices when he’s not on the road recruiting.
[quote="Las Vegan" post=300228]Just a couple of comments re this subject.
A well thought out staffing plan would have the head coach hire three assistants who can both contribute at practice/games and have a niche in the recruiting efforts. That's the way most schools do it.
Let's get rid of this "special advisor" spot. If a young/inexperienced coach feels in need of a mentor, have one of your three assistants fill that role. Louie Orr functions in that role for Ewing[/quote]

What does eliminating a position do to strengthen the staff? Should they eliminate Grad Assistants and strength coaches as well, I mean STJ does have $$$ disadvantages right? Good thing they got rid of Zendon, oh wait he wasn’t paid. PS Ewing does have a former player, Jonathan Wallace, in the Special Assistant role.[/quote]

I know you're a travel agent, but you know mitch's whereabouts since april? I'm not disputing it, just amazed at the gps locations our fans have of our staff.[/quote]


Travel Agent? You know nothing, Beast East.
 
[quote="austour" post=300256][quote="Beast of the East" post=300255][quote="austour" post=300251][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300167]A more involved Mitch can only help but he’d be a huge asset also recruiting. The wealth of knowledge he posssrs as well Mullin omg if utilized would be ridiculous. Still night not translate to wins but it can’t hurt[/quote]

Pardon my ignorance but what wealth of knowledge does Mitch possess. His claim to fame is being a great basketball player. What's his pertinent experience for the position of special assistant much less associate HC? Where did he acquire this wealth of knowledge. Sitting home watching TV and signing autographs in the 13 years of inactivity between retirement and joining Chris on the staff? At least Chris stayed attached to the game.

[quote="Beast of the East" post=300191]
We've also speculated a ton about this being a 12 month a year commitment. If that were completely true, how could a coach commit to coaching Olympic or national teams without hurting his own program, or spend time with family.
[/quote]
Dude, the season ended in early March and he returned in what, early September? That’s 6 months off. He was not active during the live recruiting periods in April and July, that would have been only 5 weeks of work if he went at it non stop. And to say his absence from the informal summer workouts is excusable is ludicrous. I think the only thing we all agree he should be good at is skill development and what better time to do that than during the summer when the coaches can only interact with a few players at a time anyway. Say he did that for a couple weeks in August. He’d still have had all of May and June off. SMDH
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=300197]Those who have criticized Mitch for nearly everything , except eating in the Cafeteria have a double standard when it comes to their evaluation of the Staff . Matt A has done a commendable job in recruiting . No argument there . But, does Matt attend practice and spend time Coaching Clarke on setting baseline Screens ? Or , assisting Simon on his free throws ? How about Matt working with Shamorie on fast break dunks ? Why not ? Because Matt isn’t a BB Coach or former Athlete and because his Job is Recruiting , not Coaching . Why can’t the critics cut Mitch the same break , since he does work with the Players on individual skills . As many have said , Chris Mullin is the only one who is in the position of evaluating Mitch Richmond and his contributions . Posters on here ? Hardly ![/quote]

To this the only response, besides laughter, is that at least by all accounts Matt has succeeded in what he was supposed to do since everyone keeps telling me this is the most talented roster in years if not decades. Compared to the crap product the “coaches” have put on the court the past 3 years especially. I will not, hoever, denigrate any specific players by pointing out the lack of improvement in certain analytics of the team to prove a point. Oh and he always seems to be working, and I’m sure he’s at practices when he’s not on the road recruiting.
[quote="Las Vegan" post=300228]Just a couple of comments re this subject.
A well thought out staffing plan would have the head coach hire three assistants who can both contribute at practice/games and have a niche in the recruiting efforts. That's the way most schools do it.
Let's get rid of this "special advisor" spot. If a young/inexperienced coach feels in need of a mentor, have one of your three assistants fill that role. Louie Orr functions in that role for Ewing[/quote]

What does eliminating a position do to strengthen the staff? Should they eliminate Grad Assistants and strength coaches as well, I mean STJ does have $$$ disadvantages right? Good thing they got rid of Zendon, oh wait he wasn’t paid. PS Ewing does have a former player, Jonathan Wallace, in the Special Assistant role.[/quote]

I know you're a travel agent, but you know mitch's whereabouts since april? I'm not disputing it, just amazed at the gps locations our fans have of our staff.[/quote]


Travel Agent? You know nothing, Beast East.[/quote]
Lol, i remember that austour meant australian tours. Doesn't matter and i don't care, but i do know Mullin was on campus this summer even as respected posters were saying he was in california, at the very same time Paul's son was interviewing him at sju. So there is just a ton of misinformation.

Don't get me wrong. Our staff has yet to prove they can produce a winning program, but this could be the year.
 
When I was at SJU, there was just Louie and John Kresse for 20 scholarship players, and Kresse had to coach the frosh team. I think the new AD will let the year play out, and if, at that point, he wants another assistant coach, I hope it is to replace Richmond, not in addition to him.
The school has financial issues and the athletic dept. owes Rohssen through next year. If a head coach and three assistants can't be successful, then hiring another coach probably won't be the remedy.
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=300227][quote="Class of 72" post=300225]

Regardless of this season's record the possibility remains that Mullin and staff may end up with one 3 star junior college guard and none of the intended 2019 targets. From a recruiting standpoint that would be an abysmal failure for any Big East team.
Like last year's wins over Villanova and Duke, the signing of Figueroa and Heron may be timing and last minute luck. THAT is not recruiting for long term success.
After a while you will run out of spaghetti to throw against the wall.[/quote]

Let’s talk facts, something this board finds abhorrent.
Slice was let go after year one of a six year contract.
Slice was owed $3,000,000.00 by SJU.
No donor has stepped up to cover the shortfall.
The school is on an austerity program.
There is not an additional $3,000,000.00 to hire another top notch recruiter /AC.
It is not a case of not wanting to fix the broken cylinder , it is a case of a lack of funds to fix the broken cylinder.
I believe it is called Title IX where sports teams have to be treated somewhat equally, well the men are not getting extra funds to replace Slice and the women’s program is also not getting extra funds.
As for the 2019 Class we have a 4* sitting out this year as well as a 2* who was the rookie of the year in his conference, so please no one should say that our 2019 class may consist of only a 3* jc guard, as that is just false.
Now am I happy that the first 2 of the 3 available ships for 2019 were given to transfers, no i was not. I was hoping for a class of high level high school recruits. But I will wait to see how things play out prior to shitting on the staff every other post.
We may be pleasantly surprised.

In the interim can we please try to stick to facts as opposed to wild conjecture and speculation ?[/quote]
Title IX I do not believe pertains to coaches salaries. At Bama men's football and hoop coaches make approx a total of 13 million per. No way they are evening out women's coaches salaries. Also it is not unheard of for a head coach to divert some of his own salary to an assistant and at 2 million per and with his so far poor results it may be a wise long term investment for Mullin to make if indeed there are school budget restraints and given it was his mistake with Slice to begin with. Halftime over back to football.
 
[quote="bamafan" post=300260][quote="redmannorth" post=300227][quote="Class of 72" post=300225]

Regardless of this season's record the possibility remains that Mullin and staff may end up with one 3 star junior college guard and none of the intended 2019 targets. From a recruiting standpoint that would be an abysmal failure for any Big East team.
Like last year's wins over Villanova and Duke, the signing of Figueroa and Heron may be timing and last minute luck. THAT is not recruiting for long term success.
After a while you will run out of spaghetti to throw against the wall.[/quote]

Let’s talk facts, something this board finds abhorrent.
Slice was let go after year one of a six year contract.
Slice was owed $3,000,000.00 by SJU.
No donor has stepped up to cover the shortfall.
The school is on an austerity program.
There is not an additional $3,000,000.00 to hire another top notch recruiter /AC.
It is not a case of not wanting to fix the broken cylinder , it is a case of a lack of funds to fix the broken cylinder.
I believe it is called Title IX where sports teams have to be treated somewhat equally, well the men are not getting extra funds to replace Slice and the women’s program is also not getting extra funds.
As for the 2019 Class we have a 4* sitting out this year as well as a 2* who was the rookie of the year in his conference, so please no one should say that our 2019 class may consist of only a 3* jc guard, as that is just false.
Now am I happy that the first 2 of the 3 available ships for 2019 were given to transfers, no i was not. I was hoping for a class of high level high school recruits. But I will wait to see how things play out prior to shitting on the staff every other post.
We may be pleasantly surprised.

In the interim can we please try to stick to facts as opposed to wild conjecture and speculation ?[/quote]
Title IX I do not believe pertains to coaches salaries. At Bama men's football and hoop coaches make approx a total of 13 million per. No way they are evening out women's coaches salaries. Also it is not unheard of for a head coach to divert some of his own salary to an assistant and at 2 million per and with his so far poor results it may be a wise long term investment for Mullin to make if indeed there are school budget restraints and given it was his mistake with Slice to begin with. Halftime over back to football.[/quote]

How much of the $13 million is paid by the school and how much by alumni, fundraising, etc. , endowment ?
 
[quote="redmannorth" post=300227][quote="Class of 72" post=300225]

Regardless of this season's record the possibility remains that Mullin and staff may end up with one 3 star junior college guard and none of the intended 2019 targets. From a recruiting standpoint that would be an abysmal failure for any Big East team.
Like last year's wins over Villanova and Duke, the signing of Figueroa and Heron may be timing and last minute luck. THAT is not recruiting for long term success.
After a while you will run out of spaghetti to throw against the wall.[/quote]

Let’s talk facts, something this board finds abhorrent.
Slice was let go after year one of a six year contract.
Slice was owed $3,000,000.00 by SJU.
No donor has stepped up to cover the shortfall.
The school is on an austerity program.
There is not an additional $3,000,000.00 to hire another top notch recruiter /AC.
It is not a case of not wanting to fix the broken cylinder , it is a case of a lack of funds to fix the broken cylinder.
I believe it is called Title IX where sports teams have to be treated somewhat equally, well the men are not getting extra funds to replace Slice and the women’s program is also not getting extra funds.
As for the 2019 Class we have a 4* sitting out this year as well as a 2* who was the rookie of the year in his conference, so please no one should say that our 2019 class may consist of only a 3* jc guard, as that is just false.
Now am I happy that the first 2 of the 3 available ships for 2019 were given to transfers, no i was not. I was hoping for a class of high level high school recruits. But I will wait to see how things play out prior to shitting on the staff every other post.
We may be pleasantly surprised.

In the interim can we please try to stick to facts as opposed to wild conjecture and speculation ?[/quote]

OK North I may have exaggerated with the spaghetti. This is St. John's and we would never run out of spaghetti.;)
However, the facts do point to poor decision making with regard to the Slice salary conundrum. We have been hearing about austerity measures since this president took control of the finances. Apparently St. John's and especially Chris Mullin did not take those measures into account while trying to stage an unlawful termination. Barely 10 months prior to feud between coaches Mullin had no problem with St. John's breaking the austerity initiative to hire Slice. That difference should have been renegotiated with Mullin as he was a major factor in the contractual issue. Mullin and his agent could have split the difference so we would not be in the position we are in right now. I didn't see any effort to help alma mater by Mullin in this regard.
As for the 2019 recruiting class, we have been discussing and anticipating this class since the first year of this regime. You, me and no one with common sense would be happy to trade anyone in this class for the two question marks that took up two of those vacancies. Especially since neither is a big man. The actual recruiting facts are we don't have any targets we have been pursuing for 3 years now in the fold. NONE! This staff is either incredibly stupid or just lazy if they trade 2 star lower level projects for any of the local talent that I am familiar with.
One of the reasons we look so unorganized in these early season games is we are always integrating transfers in live game situations. Some will not transition fast enough and the possible game losses make securing an NCAA bid more challenging. I expect 2 or 3 departures after this season. I don't think we are in a good position with any of our original targets. Transfers and last minute spaghetti will never lead to consistency.
 
The 2019 recruiting season is not over, why don't we wait until April or May to judge it? Just to remind everyone, it was April or so when we landed Figgy who has three years of eligibility and gives all signs of being a four star level recruit. It was not luck to get him, it was a wonderful coup by our leading recruiter. I am looking forward to a great and fun year. If it doesn't turn out that way, time to bash the staff then.
 
[quote="austour" post=300251][quote="mjmaherjr" post=300167]A more involved Mitch can only help but he’d be a huge asset also recruiting. The wealth of knowledge he posssrs as well Mullin omg if utilized would be ridiculous. Still night not translate to wins but it can’t hurt[/quote]

Pardon my ignorance but what wealth of knowledge does Mitch possess. His claim to fame is being a great basketball player. What's his pertinent experience for the position of special assistant much less associate HC? Where did he acquire this wealth of knowledge. Sitting home watching TV and signing autographs in the 13 years of inactivity between retirement and joining Chris on the staff? At least Chris stayed attached to the game.

[quote="Beast of the East" post=300191]
We've also speculated a ton about this being a 12 month a year commitment. If that were completely true, how could a coach commit to coaching Olympic or national teams without hurting his own program, or spend time with family.
[/quote]
Dude, the season ended in early March and he returned in what, early September? That’s 6 months off. He was not active during the live recruiting periods in April and July, that would have been only 5 weeks of work if he went at it non stop. And to say his absence from the informal summer workouts is excusable is ludicrous. I think the only thing we all agree he should be good at is skill development and what better time to do that than during the summer when the coaches can only interact with a few players at a time anyway. Say he did that for a couple weeks in August. He’d still have had all of May and June off. SMDH
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=300197]Those who have criticized Mitch for nearly everything , except eating in the Cafeteria have a double standard when it comes to their evaluation of the Staff . Matt A has done a commendable job in recruiting . No argument there . But, does Matt attend practice and spend time Coaching Clarke on setting baseline Screens ? Or , assisting Simon on his free throws ? How about Matt working with Shamorie on fast break dunks ? Why not ? Because Matt isn’t a BB Coach or former Athlete and because his Job is Recruiting , not Coaching . Why can’t the critics cut Mitch the same break , since he does work with the Players on individual skills . As many have said , Chris Mullin is the only one who is in the position of evaluating Mitch Richmond and his contributions . Posters on here ? Hardly ![/quote]

To this the only response, besides laughter, is that at least by all accounts Matt has succeeded in what he was supposed to do since everyone keeps telling me this is the most talented roster in years if not decades. Compared to the crap product the “coaches” have put on the court the past 3 years especially. I will not, hoever, denigrate any specific players by pointing out the lack of improvement in certain analytics of the team to prove a point. Oh and he always seems to be working, and I’m sure he’s at practices when he’s not on the road recruiting.
[quote="Las Vegan" post=300228]Just a couple of comments re this subject.
A well thought out staffing plan would have the head coach hire three assistants who can both contribute at practice/games and have a niche in the recruiting efforts. That's the way most schools do it.
Let's get rid of this "special advisor" spot. If a young/inexperienced coach feels in need of a mentor, have one of your three assistants fill that role. Louie Orr functions in that role for Ewing[/quote]

What does eliminating a position do to strengthen the staff? Should they eliminate Grad Assistants and strength coaches as well, I mean STJ does have $$$ disadvantages right? Good thing they got rid of Zendon, oh wait he wasn’t paid. PS Ewing does have a former player, Jonathan Wallace, in the Special Assistant role.[/quote]

let me start my response by saying I f'ing hate you. ............ I have no clue how to respond to multiple posts so I wish Trump upon you for life :)

That being said to be fair I was all for hiring Mitch. I loved the idea. Thought he would be awesome hire. Saw Mullins presser and loved things even more. Didnt think things would be the opposite. Am I happy with recruiting HS kids ? Hell no. I couldn't be more disappointed. But if someone wants to use the rationale that " is this the most talented paper on team since Jarvis " well I think they are right

Truth be told regardless of how things play out this season I can see potentially where next season is worse returning player wise than Lavin Sweatsuit * Jarvis

But who cares. This season I'm just hoping for the best
 
And on the other end of the spectrum let just take one big argument off the table

Mullin makes 2 million per year. I make fraction of that. If you want to succeed then take a pay cut and pay someone. I do that just for my assistant so I can take off 5 weeks a year

Worst excuse in the world is we have no budget. If you want to win then you do what you have to do. It's not like we are paying 100k
 
[quote="ron s m" post=300275]Especially since Mullin hardly needs the money![/quote] agreed with that but I dont expect him to work for free

But to keep things in perspective if you make 1million per year and cough up 250k you are still making 750k.

So the money constraint is completely out the window as far as I'm concerned

Either you want to win or you dont

Now Mullin very well might think he can win with this staff. After this year it's on him
 
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