Monte, while I generally agree, there are exceptions. I would take Chris Mack in an instant, he has proven he can be extremely successful in the Big East. Other than that exception, I prefer the relatively young, successful mid-major option.
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ronm
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I also do not want anyone with no recruiting experience. That would eliminate some former NBA players.
According to ESPN in 2002:RSCI #26.
Ingram was RSCI #28. Lenny Cooke was #25 that year.
Omar Cooke was #11. Darius Miles was #3 that year.
AG was #23. Barkeley was #29 that year.
Not as easy to find data pre RSCI/1999.
Lenny Cooke was #2
Darryl Hill was #21
Elijah Ingram Was #24
Recruiting: Top 100
ESPN.com's Mark Mayemura and David Benezra update their top high school seniors.
www.espn.com
In 2011: Steve Lavin was extremely active
Dom Pointer was #25
Jakarr Sampson was #32
Mo Harkless was #39
Jamal Branch was #51
D'Angelo Harrison was #64
Norvel Pelle was #77
Amir Garrett was #99
ESPN Basketball Recruiting - Player Rankings
Where do the nation basketball recruits rank? Check out the player rankings on RecruitingNation.com
Justin Simon was #37 2015 http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2015/order/true
Mustapha Heron was #25 2016
Shamorie Ponds was #37 2016 http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true
Yeah, I was using RSCI which takes the top 8 or so ranking services and creates a consensus average to weed out outliers. Individual services can vary greatly. I also only looked at top 25 or close. Dom was 35, Mo 38, Jakarr 40. FWIW Rivals had Norvel at 20. Many of those services don't rank 5th year players or didn't in the old days so Showtime doesn't show up there. I also didn't consider guys who were recruited elsewhere and transferred in, they transferred for a reason. 247 also has a consensus alongside their individual rankings but was unsure how far they went back.
L J S A
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Smart didn't get fired. Miller wasn't fired for being a retread loser.
true that Smart was not fired but he may have been if he did not resign since he had a six season losing conference record in the Big 12 Conference at UTexas and had only a 55% overall record.
That said, the guy is an excellent coach. I wish he was at StJohn’s.
L J S A
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There is absolutely no way to sell a guy to the school or the general public less than half a year after being arrested for assaulting his girlfriend.
Ray Morgan
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Heron was a five star. The rest were all 4 stars, although maybe Simon a 5 star on some services. The 2011 Lavin recruits were all 4 stars. How he did it IDK, and probably none of us want to know. He had a complete barren roster, and could offer immediate playing time. That helped. Turned out that Dom and Garrett, and to a lesser extent Jakarr, were 5 star athletes and 3 star basketball players when they entered college. Shamorie a 4 star. Cooke. like Darius Miles and Pelle, never made it here. When there are issues with a player, the blue bloods back off and the non blue bloods swoop in. I think Rysheed was a 5 star. Way more talent recruited over the years that I remember. Anyone know what year the star rating system went into effect?According to ESPN in 2002:
Lenny Cooke was #2
Darryl Hill was #21
Elijah Ingram Was #24
Recruiting: Top 100
ESPN.com's Mark Mayemura and David Benezra update their top high school seniors.www.espn.com
In 2011: Steve Lavin was extremely active
Dom Pointer was #25
Jakarr Sampson was #32
Mo Harkless was #39
Jamal Branch was #51
D'Angelo Harrison was #64
Norvel Pelle was #77
Amir Garrett was #99
ESPN Basketball Recruiting - Player Rankings
Where do the nation basketball recruits rank? Check out the player rankings on RecruitingNation.comwww.espn.com
Justin Simon was #37 2015 http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2015/order/true
Mustapha Heron was #25 2016
Shamorie Ponds was #37 2016 http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true
I am. The 1980’s was the greatest decade. Not to mention I spent money on shampoo and gel.
Lots of gel as I have been told...
He was not fired but they did not exactly fight for him when he was offered the Marquette job. I think they even waived his buyout.
Keep in mind he was coming off a season in which Texas swept Kansas and was a 3 seed in the NCAA Tournament (although were upset in the opening round 3/14 game). Guys who get 3 seeds are hardly fired after that season.
But yes Texas was not exactly devastated when he found another job.
I watched their whole tournament game in 2021 against #14 Abilene Christian (this was because I had Texas going to the final four on a few of my NCAA pool brackets). It was a game that if you watched it, was almost unwatchable basketball. It was a brutally poorly played game, possibly only exceeded by the ineptitude of the referees. After the loss, I went on the Texas website because it was so shockingly bad and looked at what the comments of their posters were about Shaka's coaching acumen. FYI the comments were akin to what our posters are currently saying about Mike Anderson. I did not watch a ton of Texas basketball under Shaka, but he was not very popular at the end of his tenure based on what I read.
NCJ at the right price, with no guarantees, I would roll the dice with Mack. He's got to have to reprove himself before the school throws big bucks at him. Otherwise let him go reprove himself somewhere else. Enough with the stupid business decisions by this administration
Come on LJSA, I mean it's not as though be shot and killed someone. Oh wait..
Miller wasn't fired for his teams performance. I'll give you Smart. There are always exceptions. Still don't like it.
L J S A
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In hindsight, we should have Beard listed as a final three candidate, because Pitino looks like the highest order of angel compared to him. We could have Gregg Marshall in there, and he'd at least look like an archangel.
Larry Wright
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Post today said we will have new coach next year FWIW
Where?
As SJU79 noted, Mike will not be back I sense. Also very much agree Cragg is not on any hot seat.