classof2010
Well-known member
Hoping the chase lounge or the downstairs of stout is open!
MICHIGAN (@MSG), Mon., Nov. 13, 6:30p, FS-1
- Thread starter Knight
- Start date
ManhattAn1
Active member
Charging $98 to get in by the school initially was a terrible decision, not sure who they were fooling. Now they cut the tickets in half and individuals are not aware.
They should provide a deal for younger kids in HS. Back in the day it was $20 for HS kids with a GO card. School did not plan properly with ticket prices if they really wanted to sell the game out
They should provide a deal for younger kids in HS. Back in the day it was $20 for HS kids with a GO card. School did not plan properly with ticket prices if they really wanted to sell the game out
$100 avg × 10K = $1M
$50 × 20K capacity = $1M
Not saying we'd sell out at $50, but the optics are much better and the revenue and costs would not be much different.
Once demand is there, prices can and should go up accordingly.
$50 × 20K capacity = $1M
Not saying we'd sell out at $50, but the optics are much better and the revenue and costs would not be much different.
Once demand is there, prices can and should go up accordingly.
Last edited:
I was at the game behind the basket for the Dwight hardy layup! One of my best Johnnie's memories live!
Right. It's easy to chastise fans, and I have my tickets, but for kicks I have been monitoring this game on Ticketmaster and things have been all over the place. If the school rather set high prices to see who bites and put overall revenue over seats sold that is their right. But don't tell me to step in now and buy extra tickets at the last minute and hand them out on my block because of how the event was priced.
classof2010
Well-known member
I dunno if this is true but a buddy mine said during the mid-80s at the Garden the Knicks did student tickets. My buddy said he’d go all the time to watch the King teams.
I was at that game as well Tommy. It was a Saturday game and went out for food and drinks afterwards. Watching the yinzers choke down the beer and burger after that game was fantastic. Of course they whined that Hardy stepped out on the baseline (he did) made it even sweeter.
Of course those moments have been far and few between for guys like my sons age. (Almost 30) He has many memories of losing to Gonzaga, Villanova by 30 at BE tourney etc. Exactly why we need Pitino and the boys to post some W’s to stoke the fire for SJU hoops.
Probably very true. People think the NBA and the Garden have been sold out since the beginning of time. NOT TRUE. I went to games with Sugar Ray Richardson and Ray Williams with attendance of 12,000 or less. Pre Magic and Bird the NBA was struggling.
I can say that when I was at Archbishop Molloy my brother was a Junior player on the varsity and they played a game PRIOR to a Knicks game and we had tickets In the upper deck. Hardly capacity when the Knicks played pre Patrick Ewing.
SJUDave
Well-known member
It absolutely is considering the coaching hire you made, the market you're in, the capacity of the legendary building you're in, the opponent brand name, the level of alleged excitement. I can keep going. Lets not sugar coat this, anything under like 15k is disappointing and I'm sure you'd hear that from people in the athletic department as well.
Back in the day a house cost 10,000 and $20 was 1/4 of a mortgage payment. They didn't spend $20 million to hire a coach to fill the building with $20 tickets at a substantial loss. They are putting out a major college product and pricing is commensurate.
For years our fans and I am one of them, called SJU mom and pop. Now they go shopping on the top shelf for a Pitino, are committed to pay players NIL money well above $2 million per year, and now our fans are complaining about the price of a ticket for a squad built to play tournament basketball?
If we listed all the complaints about the program in the past few years, including playing too many games at CA, and line them up with the the school accomplished in just about 6 months, I think we'd find that most of the reasons listed for not attending Monday's game are incompatible with what is happening here. Deep($) roster, HOF ($) coach, big time venue($) and now out fans want the school to sell discount tickets. It just doesn't make sense. We clamored for everything that is happening and now the complaints are the schedule is inconvenient, the game time isn't good, they haven't proven enough yet, and it's too expensive.
To me at least, if we just do 10,000 for this game, in no way do I expect us to sell out all Big East games - not even close. That's not on the school, it's on us.
All fair Beast..But we are 1-0
Its too early
Its too early
For some reason I think I remember a shot of this play showing his heal was hovering over the baseline but he didn’t put it down. Could be a false memory, idk
Attendance for a product that has not been in demand for decades does not flip instantaneously for any of the reasons you cited; there is an uptick in sales for the Pitino hire but winning is the one and only criteria for the increased attendance some of you were expecting and that doesn’t happen until games are played and won. Period, end of story.
It was close. Call went our way. For once.
SummerHoops
Active member
Believe the ticket department/athletic department could’ve been more “proactive” instead of “reactive” in terms of filling seats for the Michigan game.
There was an ample amount of time given here to creatively find ways to fill MSG for Pitinos first game at the garden. I think our fans will show at a respectable level, but really believe the ticket department has opportunities to move the needle a bit more with certain things.
IMO it’s okay to take “one step back” to take two steps forward. A sold out MSG at $50 per ticket is a much more pleasurable experience than a 10k filled arena at $100 a ticket. Then from there you can increase prices. I know we have a HOF coach, talented roster, etc. but my preference would be to build some momentum with the city and community before we start charging $100 a ticket. I think we’d all agree we’d like create a big time atmosphere from the get go! Hopefully we can do that on Monday. Go johnnies
There was an ample amount of time given here to creatively find ways to fill MSG for Pitinos first game at the garden. I think our fans will show at a respectable level, but really believe the ticket department has opportunities to move the needle a bit more with certain things.
IMO it’s okay to take “one step back” to take two steps forward. A sold out MSG at $50 per ticket is a much more pleasurable experience than a 10k filled arena at $100 a ticket. Then from there you can increase prices. I know we have a HOF coach, talented roster, etc. but my preference would be to build some momentum with the city and community before we start charging $100 a ticket. I think we’d all agree we’d like create a big time atmosphere from the get go! Hopefully we can do that on Monday. Go johnnies
ManhattAn1
Active member
Charging $98 is alienating kids between 16-21who would go on their own.
The fact they cut the price from 98-44 acknowledges they have no idea what they are doing. I agree with idraft, people shouldn’t have to buy extra tickets to hand out when the school messed up the pricing plan for this game. I would be pissed as hell if I spent $98 a month ago and now tickets in the same section are $44. That’s how you lose future customers!
Do the Mets, Jets, Giants, Yankees, Knicks, Rangers, Islanders price that way for 16-21 year olds? How many non students 21 and under would go to games. SJU already steeply discounts sju student tix at MSG and it is free at CA for students. We've given away tickets for years to church groups, cyo, cub scouts, girl scouts etc, and I think it has negligible impact on building a fan base.
Cutting prices on the same tickets? I'm not sure they've done that but I would take it up with Melissa at the SJU ticket office. It's valid but not unheard of as the Mets often discount tickets during the season with no recompense to those who bought prior to the ticket deals.
I don't think anyone is complaining about the price. They just aren't buying. Which seems to be upsetting people with ties to the school. Sorry, and everyone has a right to their opinion, but $100 for the upper level of MSG for regular SJU games does not seem like a good entertainment value to me and I wouldn't pay it. And I'm far from a casual, I have only missed one game in seven years.
The idea that those prices would work seems crazy to me. And I'm always out and about in NYC. SJU games, Mets games, Broadway shows and concerts. Our goal as a couple is two of those things per week, every week. So, I know what things cost and what is a rip-off.
It's not on us. SJU has a product and has to know how to price it. If I like the price point, I buy - if not - I don't. I don't owe SJU anything. No different than the competing entertainment products above. I would like to see Gutenberg, but so far, I am not willing to pay what it is being listed for. If it comes down, I will go. Maybe it won't as overall they can get the price they are charging. Then I miss it. That's how things work.
SJU priced this at a price point that made most people say, "thanks, but no thanks." If anyone in the athletic department is upset than they should take it up with whoever set the pricing, not the customers.
I agree the single game pricing just doesn’t make much sense to me (and I overpay for season tickets anyway). 200s probably shouldn’t be more than $50 and the endzone/corner 200s should be closer to $25. I’m. It sure how many people it’s keeping away, but the school has now dropped the prices to that range—just hope it’s not too late to draw a nice crowd