MICHIGAN (@MSG), Mon., Nov. 13, 6:30p, FS-1

Mean Gene said:
I’m watching Michigan vs Youngstown St. now. Tarris Reed and Nkamhoua are two 6’9 - 6’10 guys both a solid 250. We’re going to have to work hard to keep them off the boards. They play them together. Soriano and Ledlum will have their work cut out for them. Going to need something from Zuby also.
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I’m watching the Michigan game as well. Not sure if it’s good or bad that they play tonight and SJU doesn’t play this weekend.
 
I’m surprised more tickets haven’t been sold but also wonder how they are being sold. Some of the 100s were just released, and most of the rest of the 100s were sold. I’m sure there are elitists who will only sit in the 100s, and you can also be sure people are not going to go back and check Ticketmaster every day to see if anything changed.

As was also mentioned above, the pricing within the 200s seems bizarre too and all over the place. I was hoping for a big crowd, sounds like this game won’t get it done. Based on those issues I would say it’s a combination of it’s still early in the season, the normal fan is in wait and see mode, and the ticketing has been mismanaged.

Too bad.
 
Also, and I’m saying this as someone who much rather attend a game in person and is going Monday. Every game on TV has to negatively effect ticket sales, and all schools have to do is give up their TV contracts and that problem is solved. Yes, that’s a joke.

The schools want the TV money, they have to live with that trade off.
 
Beasts of the East said:
No. Not close to 15000, not cliose to 11,000 as of a few days ago. Sales have been dismal for a team like ours.

Back in the 80s only a few games were televised. If you wanted to see us play you had to come to games. Now with TVs with 50-90 inch screens and all games televised even ardent fans watch at home.
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I can confirm this, unfortunately. Not sure what it's at as of today, but your numbers as of a few days ago are in the ballpark. People thought the Rick Pitino hire would cure all, and do so immediately. It hopefully will long term, or if we get hot later in the year, but the notion so many had that this fan base would just flip a switch and pony up has not been the case. At all, from a ticket sale perspective, from an NIL donation perspective, etc etc. It's unfortunate but true, this fan base is beaten up but even when given "what they want" in the coach hire, it still isn't enough.

Just win
 
SJUDave said:
I can confirm this, unfortunately. Not sure what it's at as of today, but your numbers as of a few days ago are in the ballpark. People thought the Rick Pitino hire would cure all, and do so immediately. It hopefully will long term, or if we get hot later in the year, but the notion so many had that this fan base would just flip a switch and pony up has not been the case. At all, from a ticket sale perspective, from an NIL donation perspective, etc etc. It's unfortunate but true, this fan base is beaten up but even when given "what they want" in the coach hire, it still isn't enough.

Just win
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Patience. Nearly 25 years of neglect has eroded the fanbase. Plus a Monday night this early in the season will keep numbers down. Casual fans probably don't even know the season has started.
 
I'm not even sure what age bracket is the problem, but there are ways around that -- mostly by skipping them completely.

Capture the age bracket that came after them by running a bring your ______ (older kids? grandkids?) free promotion to games that are lagging in attendance. The older fans won't be here forever. Utilize (and appreciate) them while you can by letting them get loved ones in free.

And give grammar schools free tickets.

Give NYPD/FDNY free tickets, and make sure to acknowledge them. Local military bases too. People eat that stuff up.

Winning is actually the hardest part. Creating pre-buzz and getting butts in the seats really isn't that hard if you get even remotely creative.
 
SJUDave said:
I can confirm this, unfortunately. Not sure what it's at as of today, but your numbers as of a few days ago are in the ballpark. People thought the Rick Pitino hire would cure all, and do so immediately. It hopefully will long term, or if we get hot later in the year, but the notion so many had that this fan base would just flip a switch and pony up has not been the case. At all, from a ticket sale perspective, from an NIL donation perspective, etc etc. It's unfortunate but true, this fan base is beaten up but even when given "what they want" in the coach hire, it still isn't enough.

Just win
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at a macro level, the economy is really tough right now. the country has been dealing with inflation for almost 2 years. the talk of a recession isn't going away. there's more debt build-up. people have less in their savings. and the wars in ukraine and middle-east, make everything around us very shaky.

unfortunately for us, that likely means people are being much more cautious with disposable income.

it's just bad timing.

as for the michigan game, man it's a monday. first day of the work week. you can't really bring kids to the game. and for many it's also WFH now on monday's. so trecking to city from queens or long island on a monday night sucks. i live in the city so it's great for me. but i'll trek to queens too any night of the week. but we're diehards...

anyway, i expect it to be a good crowd with great energy.

go johnnies!!
 
redmen4life said:
at a macro level, the economy is really tough right now. the country has been dealing with inflation for almost 2 years. the talk of a recession isn't going away. there's more debt build-up. people have less in their savings. and the wars in ukraine and middle-east, make everything around us very shaky.

unfortunately for us, that likely means people are being much more cautious with disposable income.

it's just bad timing.

as for the michigan game, man it's a monday. first day of the work week. you can't really bring kids to the game. and for many it's also WFH now on monday's. so trecking to city from queens or long island on a monday night sucks. i live in the city so it's great for me. but i'll trek to queens too any night of the week. but we're diehards...

anyway, i expect it to be a good crowd with great energy.

go johnnies!!
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Another issue is that tickets sold in bulk to secondary retailers (scalpers) are making prices to many game prohibitive to the average income family. It’s not uncommon to see tickets on the secondary market to several Garden games priced in the three to five hundred dollar range.
 
I think our expectations for Garden sellouts are not realistic. Even the 84-85 team had trouble filling the building without a significant number of opposing teams fans. Syracuse and Georgetown games were packed but many rooting for the other team. For example they played UCLA that year and only about 15000 fans. The average NY sports fan is not ready to come out and support this team yet. It will take time and realistically with all the new parts the team might not have great success initially. Coach Pitino knows and understands this as a New Yorker. Patience my friends.
 
Nkamhoua was a 10.8/5/2 guy in his fourth year in the Tennessee program last season. I'm not saying we don't have to guard him, but I really doubt he became 10 ppg better in his fifth season of college ball.

I expect 13 and 6 and limited impact from him against us.
 
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