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If Mr. Alderson waits until the trading deadline, he'll be making trades for the 2016 baseball season. I wonder who Sandy will send to fall ball in Arizona. Dying to read about that.

The Mets have absolutely zero offense. Pointing the finger at the manager or individual players, might relieve the frustration, briefly. The critical failure was Alderson's road map to success....pitching, pitching, pitching. Maybe Mr. Alderson doesn't follow baseball closely but generally speaking in order to win a game, the team would have to score at least one run. Scoring runs requires the ability to hit the ball. Does Sandy's offense rely on getting four consecutive walks? The Mets don't score any runs and don't hit the ball...How can you ever win a game without scoring runs?

Free agency is not going to help. Signing free agents in the off season is not a strength for Sandy. Trivia question: Who was Sandy's best free agent signing. (Colon?) The Wilpons don't have any money to overpay for a quality free agent. It will take an massive overpay by the next GM 'cause no one is going to play for the Mets.

Longer term, the Wilpons must consider selling the team.

The only approach that has any chance of succeeding is to trade the current crop of pitchers for the best AA players available. Note to Mr. Alderson's successor: Not just pitchers, a mix of pitchers and hitters and even some fielders (Sandy, ask Terry C about hiiters and fielders). Send Harvey to the Red Sox and take two or three of their best AA players. Send DeGrom to LA for the same thing. Maybe Thor heads to Minnesota. (Scandinavians are popular there.)

Is Alderson the worst GM in baseball?
 
If Mr. Alderson waits until the trading deadline, he'll be making trades for the 2016 baseball season. I wonder who Sandy will send to fall ball in Arizona. Dying to read about that.

The Mets have absolutely zero offense. Pointing the finger at the manager or individual players, might relieve the frustration, briefly. The critical failure was Alderson's road map to success....pitching, pitching, pitching. Maybe Mr. Alderson doesn't follow baseball closely but generally speaking in order to win a game, the team would have to score at least one run. Scoring runs requires the ability to hit the ball. Does Sandy's offense rely on getting four consecutive walks? The Mets don't score any runs and don't hit the ball...How can you ever win a game without scoring runs?

Free agency is not going to help. Signing free agents in the off season is not a strength for Sandy. Trivia question: Who was Sandy's best free agent signing. (Colon?) The Wilpons don't have any money to overpay for a quality free agent. It will take an massive overpay by the next GM 'cause no one is going to play for the Mets.

Longer term, the Wilpons must consider selling the team.

The only approach that has any chance of succeeding is to trade the current crop of pitchers for the best AA players available. Note to Mr. Alderson's successor: Not just pitchers, a mix of pitchers and hitters and even some fielders (Sandy, ask Terry C about hiiters and fielders). Send Harvey to the Red Sox and take two or three of their best AA players. Send DeGrom to LA for the same thing. Maybe Thor heads to Minnesota. (Scandinavians are popular there.)

Is Alderson the worst GM in baseball?
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Your soliloquies on the Mets are a bore. You are trolling us with your prattle. Please start a Yankee thread in order to discuss your favorite team.
 
Went to my 1st game in 78. Doug Flyn, Joe Youngblood, Elliot Maddox, Tim Foli. etc. This Met team is worse to watch then those late 70's early 80's teams.

By time trading deadline comes, instead of getting a bat, team will be trading Murphy, Duda, Colon and Niese for prospects.
 
Sandy runs his mouth about not panicking... The team f'ing sucks, has the best starting rotation in the league and is at .500.
 
Went to my 1st game in 78. Doug Flyn, Joe Youngblood, Elliot Maddox, Tim Foli. etc. This Met team is worse to watch then those late 70's early 80's teams.

By time trading deadline comes, instead of getting a bat, team will be trading Murphy, Duda, Colon and Niese for prospects.
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There have been some pretty awful Met's teams. This isn't one of them.

The lineup is atrocious, but to be fair has been decimated by injury also. The pitching staff has the potential to be as good as the 86, 73, 69 Mets. Right now you could buy a ticket for any game without cherry picking, and could see a gem of a pitching performance.

What bother me most about the lineup, is that back as early as 67, when Seaver pitched, the team elevated their play around him. Defense stiffened, and meager bats would scratch out a couple of runs that he would make hold up. He wasn't far off his peak when traded to the Reds, yet his ERA was much higher with them. Why? Because he didn't have to live on the black of the plate when you have 8-1 leads. This Mets lineup and squad does not elevate their play for anyone.

There is so much to like about Harvey, DeGrom, Syndergaard, and now Matz that the future is incredibly bright.

Hopefully Wright still has a career left, Travis doesn't prove to be injury prone, and getting a bat or two to protect Duda will result in an overall productive lineup.

The biggest negatives of course, are the Wilpons. There are no Neil Allen for Keith Hernandez trades on the horizon. Perhaps they can pick up an Ellis Valentine, or some other guy who was great before getting beaned
 
If Mr. Alderson waits until the trading deadline, he'll be making trades for the 2016 baseball season. I wonder who Sandy will send to fall ball in Arizona. Dying to read about that.

The Mets have absolutely zero offense. Pointing the finger at the manager or individual players, might relieve the frustration, briefly. The critical failure was Alderson's road map to success....pitching, pitching, pitching. Maybe Mr. Alderson doesn't follow baseball closely but generally speaking in order to win a game, the team would have to score at least one run. Scoring runs requires the ability to hit the ball. Does Sandy's offense rely on getting four consecutive walks? The Mets don't score any runs and don't hit the ball...How can you ever win a game without scoring runs?

Free agency is not going to help. Signing free agents in the off season is not a strength for Sandy. Trivia question: Who was Sandy's best free agent signing. (Colon?) The Wilpons don't have any money to overpay for a quality free agent. It will take an massive overpay by the next GM 'cause no one is going to play for the Mets.

Longer term, the Wilpons must consider selling the team.

The only approach that has any chance of succeeding is to trade the current crop of pitchers for the best AA players available. Note to Mr. Alderson's successor: Not just pitchers, a mix of pitchers and hitters and even some fielders (Sandy, ask Terry C about hiiters and fielders). Send Harvey to the Red Sox and take two or three of their best AA players. Send DeGrom to LA for the same thing. Maybe Thor heads to Minnesota. (Scandinavians are popular there.)

Is Alderson the worst GM in baseball?
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Are you kidding? Alderson is a blessing. When he took over our farm system was a bigger disaster than the terrible Mets. We have had a top 5 farm system the last three years because of him.

He rapes every team he trades with:

RA Dickey - SYNDERGAARD, d"Arnaud, and Becerra (will be top 3 prospect by next year)
Marlon Byrd - Dilson Herrera (future all-star) and Vic Black (automatic young reliever)
Carlos Beltran - Zach Wheeler

He drafts well: Nimmo and Cecchini looking good and Conforto is a lock that will debut this summer. Even Dom Smith, who I wasn't too big on last year, is tearing it up this year as one of the youngest guys at high-A (.300 with 50 RBI and 25 doubles in just 66 games

The Mets have had a good bullpen maybe 1-2 years in my lifetime before Alderson...when everyone comes back from DL, we'll have the best 'pen in the NL.

The only area he hasn't been great is free agency and that is because he is handcuffed by the Coupons. Do you really think he wanted Granderson or Cuddyer #1 the last two years. No way. Ownership simply won't pay for top talent, so he has to nickel and dime his way around it.
 
If Mr. Alderson waits until the trading deadline, he'll be making trades for the 2016 baseball season. I wonder who Sandy will send to fall ball in Arizona. Dying to read about that.

The Mets have absolutely zero offense. Pointing the finger at the manager or individual players, might relieve the frustration, briefly. The critical failure was Alderson's road map to success....pitching, pitching, pitching. Maybe Mr. Alderson doesn't follow baseball closely but generally speaking in order to win a game, the team would have to score at least one run. Scoring runs requires the ability to hit the ball. Does Sandy's offense rely on getting four consecutive walks? The Mets don't score any runs and don't hit the ball...How can you ever win a game without scoring runs?

Free agency is not going to help. Signing free agents in the off season is not a strength for Sandy. Trivia question: Who was Sandy's best free agent signing. (Colon?) The Wilpons don't have any money to overpay for a quality free agent. It will take an massive overpay by the next GM 'cause no one is going to play for the Mets.

Longer term, the Wilpons must consider selling the team.

The only approach that has any chance of succeeding is to trade the current crop of pitchers for the best AA players available. Note to Mr. Alderson's successor: Not just pitchers, a mix of pitchers and hitters and even some fielders (Sandy, ask Terry C about hiiters and fielders). Send Harvey to the Red Sox and take two or three of their best AA players. Send DeGrom to LA for the same thing. Maybe Thor heads to Minnesota. (Scandinavians are popular there.)

Is Alderson the worst GM in baseball?
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Are you kidding? Alderson is a blessing. When he took over our farm system was a bigger disaster than the terrible Mets. We have had a top 5 farm system the last three years because of him.

He rapes every team he trades with:

RA Dickey - SYNDERGAARD, d"Arnaud, and Becerra (will be top 3 prospect by next year)
Marlon Byrd - Dilson Herrera (future all-star) and Vic Black (automatic young reliever)
Carlos Beltran - Zach Wheeler

He drafts well: Nimmo and Cecchini looking good and Conforto is a lock that will debut this summer. Even Dom Smith, who I wasn't too big on last year, is tearing it up this year as one of the youngest guys at high-A (.300 with 50 RBI and 25 doubles in just 66 games

The Mets have had a good bullpen maybe 1-2 years in my lifetime before Alderson...when everyone comes back from DL, we'll have the best 'pen in the NL.

The only area he hasn't been great is free agency and that is because he is handcuffed by the Coupons. Do you really think he wanted Granderson or Cuddyer #1 the last two years. No way. Ownership simply won't pay for top talent, so he has to nickel and dime his way around it.
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I gotta disagree on the farm system and I used to not like Omar but look at the pitchers we got with him
 
Omar wasn't terrible. But Sandy is a very good GM, he's just not being given the resources to supplement the home-grown guys he has.

It's not as if he didn't want to sign Nelson Cruz or Cano the year before. He can't. He's hamstrung.
 
Omar wasn't terrible. But Sandy is a very good GM, he's just not being given the resources to supplement the home-grown guys he has.

It's not as if he didn't want to sign Nelson Cruz or Cano the year before. He can't. He's hamstrung.
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Thank God we didn't sign Cano. That would have ruined us for the next 10 yrs :)

I said it at the time. No way did he deserve that type of money.
 
Omar wasn't terrible. But Sandy is a very good GM, he's just not being given the resources to supplement the home-grown guys he has.

It's not as if he didn't want to sign Nelson Cruz or Cano the year before. He can't. He's hamstrung.
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Thank God we didn't sign Cano. That would have ruined us for the next 10 yrs :)

I said it at the time. No way did he deserve that type of money.
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Sure he did Mike. He was a perennial MVP candidate for 5 straight seasons.. 2010-14

He was aided by a good lineup and the short porch, but he'll bounce back. He's too good of a hitter.
 
Omar wasn't terrible. But Sandy is a very good GM, he's just not being given the resources to supplement the home-grown guys he has.

It's not as if he didn't want to sign Nelson Cruz or Cano the year before. He can't. He's hamstrung.
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Thank God we didn't sign Cano. That would have ruined us for the next 10 yrs :)

I said it at the time. No way did he deserve that type of money.
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Sure he did Mike. He was a perennial MVP candidate for 5 straight seasons.. 2010-14

He was aided by a good lineup and the short porch, but he'll bounce back. He's too good of a hitter.
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he will be 33 this year. He kept his average up last yr but his home runs got cut in half and his rbi's went down over 20% from what he was averaging. This year is a debacle.

He can get his average up sure but no way he ever achieves his short porch production again unless he got traded back to the yankees or colorado.

Even though I'm a met fan I was glad the yanks didn't resign him. Hate these long contracts when players get over 30 most of the time.

at least with that money the only way he will be sleepless in seattle is from counting his bucks :)

Now I just gotta hope the coupons buck up for a player in the offseason because by the time Sandy pulls the trigger it might as well be to fire Collins
 
If Mr. Alderson waits until the trading deadline, he'll be making trades for the 2016 baseball season. I wonder who Sandy will send to fall ball in Arizona. Dying to read about that.

The Mets have absolutely zero offense. Pointing the finger at the manager or individual players, might relieve the frustration, briefly. The critical failure was Alderson's road map to success....pitching, pitching, pitching. Maybe Mr. Alderson doesn't follow baseball closely but generally speaking in order to win a game, the team would have to score at least one run. Scoring runs requires the ability to hit the ball. Does Sandy's offense rely on getting four consecutive walks? The Mets don't score any runs and don't hit the ball...How can you ever win a game without scoring runs?

Free agency is not going to help. Signing free agents in the off season is not a strength for Sandy. Trivia question: Who was Sandy's best free agent signing. (Colon?) The Wilpons don't have any money to overpay for a quality free agent. It will take an massive overpay by the next GM 'cause no one is going to play for the Mets.

Longer term, the Wilpons must consider selling the team.

The only approach that has any chance of succeeding is to trade the current crop of pitchers for the best AA players available. Note to Mr. Alderson's successor: Not just pitchers, a mix of pitchers and hitters and even some fielders (Sandy, ask Terry C about hiiters and fielders). Send Harvey to the Red Sox and take two or three of their best AA players. Send DeGrom to LA for the same thing. Maybe Thor heads to Minnesota. (Scandinavians are popular there.)

Is Alderson the worst GM in baseball?
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Are you kidding? Alderson is a blessing. When he took over our farm system was a bigger disaster than the terrible Mets. We have had a top 5 farm system the last three years because of him.

He rapes every team he trades with:

RA Dickey - SYNDERGAARD, d"Arnaud, and Becerra (will be top 3 prospect by next year)
Marlon Byrd - Dilson Herrera (future all-star) and Vic Black (automatic young reliever)
Carlos Beltran - Zach Wheeler

He drafts well: Nimmo and Cecchini looking good and Conforto is a lock that will debut this summer. Even Dom Smith, who I wasn't too big on last year, is tearing it up this year as one of the youngest guys at high-A (.300 with 50 RBI and 25 doubles in just 66 games

The Mets have had a good bullpen maybe 1-2 years in my lifetime before Alderson...when everyone comes back from DL, we'll have the best 'pen in the NL.

The only area he hasn't been great is free agency and that is because he is handcuffed by the Coupons. Do you really think he wanted Granderson or Cuddyer #1 the last two years. No way. Ownership simply won't pay for top talent, so he has to nickel and dime his way around it.
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I gotta disagree on the farm system and I used to not like Omar but look at the pitchers we got with him
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Minaya looks better with each passing month. Still, before he had some diamonds in the rough like deGrom, Duda, and Lagares develop, the Mets farm system was not ranked high and it was pretty weak. Take Lagares, he was acquired in 2007 and didn't start until 2013.

During Minaya's sixth year as GM, the only positional starter he was responsible coming through the minors via trade/draft/international signing was Murphy. Pelfrey was the only starting pitcher. Fernando Martinez and Bobby Parnell also saw some time. That is an extremely weak group.

Alderson in year six has: Thor, Wheeler, d'Arnaud, Plawecki, Herrera, Montero, and soon to be Conforto and perhaps even Nimmo. There are also some quality guys like Fulmer and Reynolds that could contribute now if given the opportunity. I know I'd rather have Alderson's guys over Minaya's.
 
If Mr. Alderson waits until the trading deadline, he'll be making trades for the 2016 baseball season. I wonder who Sandy will send to fall ball in Arizona. Dying to read about that.

The Mets have absolutely zero offense. Pointing the finger at the manager or individual players, might relieve the frustration, briefly. The critical failure was Alderson's road map to success....pitching, pitching, pitching. Maybe Mr. Alderson doesn't follow baseball closely but generally speaking in order to win a game, the team would have to score at least one run. Scoring runs requires the ability to hit the ball. Does Sandy's offense rely on getting four consecutive walks? The Mets don't score any runs and don't hit the ball...How can you ever win a game without scoring runs?

Free agency is not going to help. Signing free agents in the off season is not a strength for Sandy. Trivia question: Who was Sandy's best free agent signing. (Colon?) The Wilpons don't have any money to overpay for a quality free agent. It will take an massive overpay by the next GM 'cause no one is going to play for the Mets.

Longer term, the Wilpons must consider selling the team.

The only approach that has any chance of succeeding is to trade the current crop of pitchers for the best AA players available. Note to Mr. Alderson's successor: Not just pitchers, a mix of pitchers and hitters and even some fielders (Sandy, ask Terry C about hiiters and fielders). Send Harvey to the Red Sox and take two or three of their best AA players. Send DeGrom to LA for the same thing. Maybe Thor heads to Minnesota. (Scandinavians are popular there.)

Is Alderson the worst GM in baseball?
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Are you kidding? Alderson is a blessing. When he took over our farm system was a bigger disaster than the terrible Mets. We have had a top 5 farm system the last three years because of him.

He rapes every team he trades with:

RA Dickey - SYNDERGAARD, d"Arnaud, and Becerra (will be top 3 prospect by next year)
Marlon Byrd - Dilson Herrera (future all-star) and Vic Black (automatic young reliever)
Carlos Beltran - Zach Wheeler

He drafts well: Nimmo and Cecchini looking good and Conforto is a lock that will debut this summer. Even Dom Smith, who I wasn't too big on last year, is tearing it up this year as one of the youngest guys at high-A (.300 with 50 RBI and 25 doubles in just 66 games

The Mets have had a good bullpen maybe 1-2 years in my lifetime before Alderson...when everyone comes back from DL, we'll have the best 'pen in the NL.

The only area he hasn't been great is free agency and that is because he is handcuffed by the Coupons. Do you really think he wanted Granderson or Cuddyer #1 the last two years. No way. Ownership simply won't pay for top talent, so he has to nickel and dime his way around it.
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I gotta disagree on the farm system and I used to not like Omar but look at the pitchers we got with him
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Minaya looks better with each passing month. Still, before he had some diamonds in the rough like deGrom, Duda, and Lagares develop, the Mets farm system was not ranked high and it was pretty weak. Take Lagares, he was acquired in 2007 and didn't start until 2013.

During Minaya's sixth year as GM, the only positional starter he was responsible coming through the minors via trade/draft/international signing was Murphy. Pelfrey was the only starting pitcher. Fernando Martinez and Bobby Parnell also saw some time. That is an extremely weak group.

Alderson in year six has: Thor, Wheeler, d'Arnaud, Plawecki, Herrera, Montero, and soon to be Conforto and perhaps even Nimmo. There are also some quality guys like Fulmer and Reynolds that could contribute now if given the opportunity. I know I'd rather have Alderson's guys over Minaya's.
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True, I'd take Sandy's guys over Omars, and I'm a Sandy fan ... but they had different instructions and gameplans. Sandy was told to cut salary a d build the farm.
Omar had valuable prospects that we dealt away, humber, carlos gomez etc even pelfrey is pitching well now
and Sandy benefited from compensation round draft picks. Omar was doing the opposite. He was losing draft picks because we had signed big free agents.

I'm not choosing one over the other, just saying they had different marching orders.
 
If Mr. Alderson waits until the trading deadline, he'll be making trades for the 2016 baseball season. I wonder who Sandy will send to fall ball in Arizona. Dying to read about that.

The Mets have absolutely zero offense. Pointing the finger at the manager or individual players, might relieve the frustration, briefly. The critical failure was Alderson's road map to success....pitching, pitching, pitching. Maybe Mr. Alderson doesn't follow baseball closely but generally speaking in order to win a game, the team would have to score at least one run. Scoring runs requires the ability to hit the ball. Does Sandy's offense rely on getting four consecutive walks? The Mets don't score any runs and don't hit the ball...How can you ever win a game without scoring runs?

Free agency is not going to help. Signing free agents in the off season is not a strength for Sandy. Trivia question: Who was Sandy's best free agent signing. (Colon?) The Wilpons don't have any money to overpay for a quality free agent. It will take an massive overpay by the next GM 'cause no one is going to play for the Mets.

Longer term, the Wilpons must consider selling the team.

The only approach that has any chance of succeeding is to trade the current crop of pitchers for the best AA players available. Note to Mr. Alderson's successor: Not just pitchers, a mix of pitchers and hitters and even some fielders (Sandy, ask Terry C about hiiters and fielders). Send Harvey to the Red Sox and take two or three of their best AA players. Send DeGrom to LA for the same thing. Maybe Thor heads to Minnesota. (Scandinavians are popular there.)

Is Alderson the worst GM in baseball?
Click to expand...

Are you kidding? Alderson is a blessing. When he took over our farm system was a bigger disaster than the terrible Mets. We have had a top 5 farm system the last three years because of him.

He rapes every team he trades with:

RA Dickey - SYNDERGAARD, d"Arnaud, and Becerra (will be top 3 prospect by next year)
Marlon Byrd - Dilson Herrera (future all-star) and Vic Black (automatic young reliever)
Carlos Beltran - Zach Wheeler

He drafts well: Nimmo and Cecchini looking good and Conforto is a lock that will debut this summer. Even Dom Smith, who I wasn't too big on last year, is tearing it up this year as one of the youngest guys at high-A (.300 with 50 RBI and 25 doubles in just 66 games

The Mets have had a good bullpen maybe 1-2 years in my lifetime before Alderson...when everyone comes back from DL, we'll have the best 'pen in the NL.

The only area he hasn't been great is free agency and that is because he is handcuffed by the Coupons. Do you really think he wanted Granderson or Cuddyer #1 the last two years. No way. Ownership simply won't pay for top talent, so he has to nickel and dime his way around it.
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I gotta disagree on the farm system and I used to not like Omar but look at the pitchers we got with him
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Minaya looks better with each passing month. Still, before he had some diamonds in the rough like deGrom, Duda, and Lagares develop, the Mets farm system was not ranked high and it was pretty weak. Take Lagares, he was acquired in 2007 and didn't start until 2013.

During Minaya's sixth year as GM, the only positional starter he was responsible coming through the minors via trade/draft/international signing was Murphy. Pelfrey was the only starting pitcher. Fernando Martinez and Bobby Parnell also saw some time. That is an extremely weak group.

Alderson in year six has: Thor, Wheeler, d'Arnaud, Plawecki, Herrera, Montero, and soon to be Conforto and perhaps even Nimmo. There are also some quality guys like Fulmer and Reynolds that could contribute now if given the opportunity. I know I'd rather have Alderson's guys over Minaya's.
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True, I'd take Sandy's guys over Omars, and I'm a Sandy fan ... but they had different instructions and gameplans. Sandy was told to cut salary a d build the farm.
Omar had valuable prospects that we dealt away, humber, carlos gomez etc even pelfrey is pitching well now
and Sandy benefited from compensation round draft picks. Omar was doing the opposite. He was losing draft picks because we had signed big free agents.

I'm not choosing one over the other, just saying they had different marching orders.
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Tough to argue that. The different situations make it tough to compare. To be clear, though, I'm not knocking Minaya. I am just backing up Alderson. He had the unenviable task of taking over a team with no bullpen, an aging core, young stars he couldn't retain due to salary constraints, and a weak farm system outside of a few guys at the top. To put this team within one bat from the playoffs and give us a top five farm system in five years is really impressive considering where we were when he took over.

I think Frazier would be the guy to give us a Piazza-like lift.
 
Omar wasn't terrible. But Sandy is a very good GM, he's just not being given the resources to supplement the home-grown guys he has.

It's not as if he didn't want to sign Nelson Cruz or Cano the year before. He can't. He's hamstrung.
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He is? Great, now maybe he can sit out for 6 weeks and let someone with baseball ability take over. Can't stand his smart ass smirks and comments. (city of panic)
 
Omar wasn't terrible. But Sandy is a very good GM, he's just not being given the resources to supplement the home-grown guys he has.

It's not as if he didn't want to sign Nelson Cruz or Cano the year before. He can't. He's hamstrung.
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He is? Great, now maybe he can sit out for 6 weeks and let someone with baseball ability take over. Can't stand his smart ass smirks and comments. (city of panic)
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Definitely too harsh. The Mets are in terrific shape the next 6-7 years. Not only is the core of starting pitchers all 24-26 (deGrom oldest at 27, Thor youngest at 22) with very few innings on their arms (mostly due to Tommy John surgeries all-around), but the bullpen is also very young and extremely promising. Familia is a flat-out stud: 2-0, 1 hold, 22/24 in save opportunities, 1.16 ERA, and only 25 years old. Mejia induced some panic last year, but he was something like 33/36 in save opportunities in his first year as a closer and is only 25 and will be back this week. Vic Black was automatic last year and he's only 27. Gilmartin is very good and only 25. Edgin is just 29. Leathersich is a top prospect out the of the pen will only be 25 this month. Logan Verrett is 25 and has only let one run in his last six appearances (12.1 innings) and has a 0.96 ERA with the Mets this season. Almost verything Alderson touches in the bullpen turns to gold.

People are crazy to discount Flores, as I've been saying forever now. The kid is 23 with three seasons of MLB experience and already has one of the best bats of any shortstop in all of baseball and can play a very good defensivesecond base as well. .260 average right now and he's be the most clutch hitter we've had this season. 25-30 homers and a .280 average with average defense when he hits his prime is nasty for a short stop.

Lagares is locked up for a long time under a great deal. Herrera, I feel, will be an all-star in 2-3 years (or sooner) and is only 21. Conforto is a lock to hit .290+ and 20 homers. Nimmo looks better every year.

The Mets just need one legit All-Star caliber bat this season.
 
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