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[quote="Paultzman" post=329489]Impressive D by UNCG against high powered Wofford. Wes Miller, former Tarheel can coach.[/quote]

They played great D, but their O has gone south since about the 8 minute mark. Looks like the bubble teams are going to breathe a sigh of relief.
 
GO WOFFORD!!!

UNCG should be out. They were the fifth team "out" heading into today.
 
Really happy Hofstra pulled that game out. To me that move to the CAA has sucked for them Will be rooting hard for them tomorrow night

Any chance that's a 2 bid league this year if they dont win tomorrow ?
 
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[quote="SJU61982" post=329493][quote="Paultzman" post=329489]Impressive D by UNCG against high powered Wofford. Wes Miller, former Tarheel can coach.[/quote]

They played great D, but their O has gone south since about the 8 minute mark. Looks like the bubble teams are going to breathe a sigh of relief.[/quote]
Clearly struggling offensively
 
UNCG has a 0.0% chance of making the tournament. Nothing to see here.
 
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[quote="Paultzman" post=329489]Impressive D by UNCG against high powered Wofford. Wes Miller, former Tarheel can coach.[/quote]
I’ve been very impressed by their defense. They actually will play 3 different defenses on one defensive set. Ultimately, they stopped scoring,and that will lead to their defeat.
 
Been watching this game closely, if we make it in the tourney as a 10/11. They are a possible first round matchup.

Not worried about them in the least, Simon can shut their scorer down easily.
 
[quote="Adam" post=329401][quote="redken" post=329400]Too tired to read most the preceding posts, but as of today, we're seventh in a very down conference that doesn't deserve more than four invites. And on top of that, a good number of our early season wins came against cupcakes, so our overall record is inflated and misleading, and our BE wins against Nova and Marquette no longer look as impressive as they once did. Granted, three wins the BE tourney should get us a NCAA bid, but based on how this team has been playing lately, chances of that happening are slim and none.[/quote]

Fortunately the NCAA doesn't care what place we are in, how many invites the BE "deserves", or how we finish. They don't consider any of that. Our 3 wins against Nova and Marquette are all still Q1.

1 win and we're a luck. Only way we aren't is if all the bracketologists are completely off, or if there are an unusually high number of bid thieves.[/quote]
Live and learn! I hate to sound like a grouchy old-timer -- which, no doubt I am -- but at times these bracketologists make no sense to me. Face it: The BE sucks this year, and doesn't deserve more than four bids, regardless of their formulas. And the fact that we're in seventh place and have been absolutely awful of late -- like watching a plane slowly fall to ground, as one poster aptly put -- and can still get a bid with one more win is absurd -- and I've lived and died with this team since it starred Leroy Ellis and Kevin Loughery. I'll be there Wednesday night and I'll be rooting my butt off, but again, if this team doesn't win three tournament games, they simply don't belong in the Big Dance.
 
[quote="redken" post=329509][quote="Adam" post=329401][quote="redken" post=329400]Too tired to read most the preceding posts, but as of today, we're seventh in a very down conference that doesn't deserve more than four invites. And on top of that, a good number of our early season wins came against cupcakes, so our overall record is inflated and misleading, and our BE wins against Nova and Marquette no longer look as impressive as they once did. Granted, three wins the BE tourney should get us a NCAA bid, but based on how this team has been playing lately, chances of that happening are slim and none.[/quote]

Fortunately the NCAA doesn't care what place we are in, how many invites the BE "deserves", or how we finish. They don't consider any of that. Our 3 wins against Nova and Marquette are all still Q1.

1 win and we're a luck. Only way we aren't is if all the bracketologists are completely off, or if there are an unusually high number of bid thieves.[/quote]n
Live and learn! I hate to sound like a grouchy old-timer -- which, no doubt I am -- but at times these bracketologists make no sense to me. Face it: The BE sucks this year, and doesn't deserve more than four bids, regardless of their formulas. And the fact that we're in seventh place and have been absolutely awful of late -- like watching a plane slowly fall to ground, as one poster aptly put -- and can still get a bid with one more win is absurd -- and I've lived and died with this team since it starred Leroy Ellis and Kevin Loughery. I'll be there Wednesday night and I'll be rooting my butt off, but again, if this team doesn't win three tournament games, they simply don't belong in the Big Dance.
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I’d say 21-12 overall and 9-11 in the BEC, that has waged fratricidal war against fellow members this year, deserves a Dance Card.
As I posted y’day, 1 game separates Nova from Marquette, 1 game separates 4 3rd finishers fro in 7th Place and 1 game seaparates us from the bottom 3 tied teams.
So, yes, I’m disappointed with the team’s finish in conference but Tournament Time triggers a new season.
Beat DePaul and ‘print’ that dance card imo.
 
redken- okay, you can say the Big East doesn't deserve any more than 4 bids, but then who deserves the 4th bid over us? Currently Nova, Marquette and Seton Hall are locks. We are projected by most as "in" the field right now. Creighton is in the first 4 out, while Georgetown is in the first 8 out. No way anybody else (besides Nova/Hall/Marq) deserves it over us at this point.

The Big East this year is the first 10+ teams conference in history where every team will finish above .500. That means nearly all of our away games count as Q1 (vs top 75), and we've won a few of those. Numbers don't lie and we have far more Q1 wins than pretty much the entire bubble. Q1 wins are extremely important to the Committee, and we have them. Regardless of how you feel about the league, those projecting us "in" have very valid reasons for doing so.
 
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Answering the subject query: Yes, we are a lock.

The Q1 record is sufficient to cover-up the blemishes. And the committee, for better or worse, no longer places weight on conference record or how a team finishes.

Our flawed team has done just enough to make it. I hope we do not waste the opportunity.
 
Potential upcoming bid thieves (teams that have no business dancing but win their conference tournament):

WCC: Very unlikely. As long as Gonzaga wins the finals tomorrow, there shouldn't be any issues. St. Mary's is the 7th team "out" on BM (Bracket Matrix) and highly doubtful they'll get an at large.
MW: Unlikely. Nevada is a lock, while Utah St is basically a lock (currently a 10 seed- ahead of us). Tournament has yet to start. Root for Nevada followed by Utah St.
MAC: Toss up. Buffalo is the only MAC lock. Toledo is the 6th team "out" on BM. Tournament has yet to start. Root for Buffalo.
A10: Toss up. VCU is basically a lock, and nobody else is getting an at large. Tournament has yet to start. Root for VCU.
AAC: Very unlikely.
ACC: No chance.
Big 12: No chance.
Big East: Unlikely.
Big Ten: No chance.
Pac 12: Toss up. Washington is the only "lock" while Arizona St is currently a 12 seed on BM (below us). Root for Washington.
SEC: No chance.

Overall, I expect about 2 bid thieves. That'd push us down from our current BM position of 8th team in to 6th team in. Also, expect a few other teams to pass us if they win a game or two in their tournament and we lose to DePaul.

Prediction (same as it's been the past few weeks): If we lose to DePaul, we'll make the Tournament but end up in Dayton as one of the last 4 in.
 
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[quote="redken" post=329509]
Live and learn! I hate to sound like a grouchy old-timer -- which, no doubt I am -- but at times these bracketologists make no sense to me. Face it: The BE sucks this year, and doesn't deserve more than four bids, regardless of their formulas. And the fact that we're in seventh place and have been absolutely awful of late -- like watching a plane slowly fall to ground, as one poster aptly put -- and can still get a bid with one more win is absurd -- and I've lived and died with this team since it starred Leroy Ellis and Kevin Loughery. I'll be there Wednesday night and I'll be rooting my butt off, but again, if this team doesn't win three tournament games, they simply don't belong in the Big Dance.[/quote]

Here's my response to that...I know it's easy to be down on our team and our resume (few are more frustrated than I am by the underwhelming conference performance), but look at the other teams below us on the bubble right now, per BracketMatrix.com:

11 TCU - 19-12, NET 47, SOS 35, Q1 3-8, Q2 5-4, Q3&4 11-0; Best Win: @Iowa State; Worst Loss: @WVU

11 NC St. - 21-10, NET 32, SOS 214 (DESPITE PLAYING IN THE ACC!!!), Q1 2-8, Q2 6-0, Q3&4 13-2; Best Win: v. Auburn; Worst Loss: v. Ga. Tech

11 Florida - 17-14, NET 33, SOS 39, Q1 3-11, Q2 3-1, Q3&4 11-2; Best Win: at LSU; Worst Loss: v. Georgia

12 ASU - 21-9, NET 67, SOS 71, Q1 3-3, Q2 8-2, Q3&4 10-2 (includes 2 Q4 losses); Best Win: v. Kansas; Worst Loss: v. Princeton; v. Wash State

12 Temple - 23-8, NET 50, SOS 78, Q1 2-6, Q2 6-1, Q3&4 15-1; Best Win: v. Houston; Worst Loss: v. Penn

12 Clemson - 19-12. NET 35, SOS 33, Q1 1-9, Q2 6-3, Q3&4 12-0; Best Win: v. Va. Tech; Worst Loss: @Miami

12 Ohio State - 18-13, NET 55, SOS 59, Q1 4-9, Q2 4-3, Q3&4 10-1; Best Win: at Cincinnati; Worst Loss v. Illinois

First Four Out:

Indiana - 17-14, NET 51, SOS 53, Q1 6-9, Q2 2-5, Q3&4 9-0; Best Win: @Mich St.; Worst Loss: @Rutgers

Belmont - 25-5, Net 45, SOS 194, Q1 2-2. Q2 3-1; Q3&4 20-2; Best Win @Murray St.; Worst Loss: @Green Bay (220 NET)

Creighton - 17-13, NET 54, SOS 14, Q1 3-10, Q2 6-3, Q3&4 8-0; Best Win: @Marq; Worst Loss: v. St. John's (weird, but true)

Alabama - 17-14, NET 58, SOS 23, Q1 2-9, Q2 7-3, Q3&4 8-2; Best Win: v. Kentucky; Worst Loss: v. Georgia State

Next Four Out:

UNC-Greensboro - 26-6, NET 57, SOS 101, Q1 2-6, Q2 2-0, Q3 5-0, Q4 17-0; Best Win: v. Furman (neutral floor; conf. tourney); Worst Loss: @Furman (so really, no bad losses)

Toledo - 24-6, NET 60, SOS 117, Q1 0-2, Q2 4-0, Q3&4 20-4; Best Win: v. UC Irvine (neutral floor); Worst Loss: @E. Mich

St. Mary's - 21-11, NET 37, SOS 28, Q1 1-6, Q2 2-3, Q3&4 18-2; Best Win: @New Mexico St.; Worst Loss: @Pepperdine or v. Harvard

Georgetown - 19-12, NET 76, SOS 79, Q1 5-6, Q2 6-4, Q3&4 8-2; Best Win: @Marq; Worst Loss: Loyola-Marymount (neutral floor)

Bonus Resumes (the 2 lines above ours):

10 Minnesota - 19-12, NET 56, SOS 42, Q1 3-9, Q2 7-3, Q3&4 9-0; Best Win: @Wisconsin; Worst Loss: @BC

10 Texas - 16-15, NET 39, SOS 6, Q1 5-9. Q2 4-5, Q3&4 7-1; Best Win: v. UNC (neutral floor); Worst Loss: v. Radford

Johnnies Resume:

20-11, NET 66, SOS 75, Q1 5-6; Q2 5-3, Q3&4 10-2; Best Win: @Marq; Worst Loss: v. DePaul


So here's the question...if you include Texas & Minnesota, that's 18 teams for 10 NCAA berths right now (barring any bid thieves), so which of those teams, actually have better resumes than us? Are there 10 teams from that group with better resumes than us, cause that's what would have to happen to drop us out of the tournament?
 
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Hofstra about to go down to Northeastern in the CAA Finals.

Don't think this is a stolen bid, though. The Pride's resume just is not strong enough for that. At least their season continues with the NIT.
 
Man, if Gonzaga loses this I will be rooting hard against them during March Madness. Of course they choose this game to play poorly.
 
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[quote="Adam" post=329745]Man, if Gonzaga loses this I will be rooting hard against them during March Madness. Of course they choose this game to play poorly.[/quote]

I think that last shot by St. Mary's did it. This just wasn't Gonzaga's night.
 
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