Marcellus in Portal

[lawmanfan]

IMHO it's ridiculous to blame the coach for players exercising their hall pass.

I mean, just look around the country.  I guess three-quarters of the coaches suck, and the other quarter will suck at some point in the next few weeks when their players hit the portal too?

As the man said - c'mon, man!

 

[JackofVirginia]

Really surprised Williams is leaving. Hell, he surely got plenty of playing time under CMA. Maybe after we got Smith he saw his starting in his senior year disappear. Could have used a good sixth man. Good luck to a nice kid.

 

[Moose]

What I just don't get is kids transfer and posters come out of the woodwork blaming the coach.  Is the coach supposed to keep an unhappy kid around?  Is coach supposed to start them as Seniors because they are Seniors? I wished Greg and Marcellus well.  They gave us 3 years and want to try something else.  

Funny how nobody blames kids for leaving, because they are 'kids', right?  Can't have it both ways.

I don't hide in the woodwork. I have praised CMA plenty over the past 2  years, but how you and others can absolve him of blame for this mass exodus  is beyond me. The buck stops with the coach, and while it's way to soon to pass judgement on next year's team, what's going on right now is extremely worrisome. And rest assured, if he does not replace the defectors with better players, we will once again be on the outside looking in on selection Sunday. And I'm sure if that happens, a lot of our fan base will blame the system and the kids who left as the reason. 


 

You've been here all year.  This week thought has been a blast from the past for me by quite a few.

But I still am not understanding your take.  It's worrisome that 6 kids left.  2 didnt play a lick.  2 were hated by most of the fan base and 2 were fan favorites from the last coach who while contributors weren't going to start next year (their last year technically).  I'd be more worried if a coach begged some of them to stay to have unhappy kids on the bench. 

I was very critical of Anderson during the year.  Mostly about his in game coaching, rotations, etc.  In terms of roster management again call me crazy but if a kid wants to leave tough to beg them to return unless they are your top 3-4 players. 

 

[SJU14]

How many transfer from Villanova?

Let's compare a perennial NCAA team that has won National Championships.
Talk about apples and oranges.

Have you seen Syracuse the last few days.  And they played the 2nd week of the tournament.  How would you feel then?  Fire Boeheim?

Great that you pointed out Villanova, since Cole Swider annouced his intentions to transfer today, a big man shooting 40% from 3 for them. And agree about Cuse. The amount of blow back on Boeheim in the last 2 days because of Kadary Richmond's transfer is way more than we have seen here.

 

[Amaseinyourface]

What I just don't get is kids transfer and posters come out of the woodwork blaming the coach.  Is the coach supposed to keep an unhappy kid around?  Is coach supposed to start them as Seniors because they are Seniors? I wished Greg and Marcellus well.  They gave us 3 years and want to try something else.  

Funny how nobody blames kids for leaving, because they are 'kids', right?  Can't have it both ways.

I don't hide in the woodwork. I have praised CMA plenty over the past 2  years, but how you and others can absolve him of blame for this mass exodus  is beyond me. The buck stops with the coach, and while it's way to soon to pass judgement on next year's team, what's going on right now is extremely worrisome. And rest assured, if he does not replace the defectors with better players, we will once again be on the outside looking in on selection Sunday. And I'm sure if that happens, a lot of our fan base will blame the system and the kids who left as the reason. 



 

You've been here all year.  This week thought has been a blast from the past for me by quite a few.

But I still am not understanding your take.  It's worrisome that 6 kids left.  2 didnt play a lick.  2 were hated by most of the fan base and 2 were fan favorites from the last coach who while contributors weren't going to start next year (their last year technically).  I'd be more worried if a coach begged some of them to stay to have unhappy kids on the bench. 

I was very critical of Anderson during the year.  Mostly about his in game coaching, rotations, etc.  In terms of roster management again call me crazy but if a kid wants to leave tough to beg them to return unless they are your top 3-4 players. 

I blame you and your damn 4/4 post!!

 

[Red Drum]

Maybe I care more about the program than you. Stop with the excuses. You can’t  be happy with what’s going on with kids leaving us in droves for years. Go ahead. Fire another salvo and be content with mediocrity.

 

[Mullins Revenge]

https://twitter.com/nypost_brazille/status/1377355569858629632?s=21

Its not rocket science.  The Duke was one of the best players on the team and their were nights he played under 20 minutes.  Inexcusable!

This one falls on the coach for not playing his best guys.  Wasting time with Cole out there etc.

 

[Moose]

Maybe I care more about the program than you. Stop with the excuses. You can’t  be happy with what’s going on with kids leaving us in droves for years. Go ahead. Fire another salvo and be content with mediocrity.

So Mr. I Care More About the Program
What do you suggest we do?
Fire another coach?
Drop down to the Patriot League?
Ankle bracelets on the kids to ensure they stay 4 years?

I would truly sincerely love to hear

 

[lawmanfan]

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[monte]

What I just don't get is kids transfer and posters come out of the woodwork blaming the coach.  Is the coach supposed to keep an unhappy kid around?  Is coach supposed to start them as Seniors because they are Seniors? I wished Greg and Marcellus well.  They gave us 3 years and want to try something else.  

Funny how nobody blames kids for leaving, because they are 'kids', right?  Can't have it both ways.

I don't hide in the woodwork. I have praised CMA plenty over the past 2  years, but how you and others can absolve him of blame for this mass exodus  is beyond me. The buck stops with the coach, and while it's way to soon to pass judgement on next year's team, what's going on right now is extremely worrisome. And rest assured, if he does not replace the defectors with better players, we will once again be on the outside looking in on selection Sunday. And I'm sure if that happens, a lot of our fan base will blame the system and the kids who left as the reason. 




 

You've been here all year.  This week thought has been a blast from the past for me by quite a few.

But I still am not understanding your take.  It's worrisome that 6 kids left.  2 didnt play a lick.  2 were hated by most of the fan base and 2 were fan favorites from the last coach who while contributors weren't going to start next year (their last year technically).  I'd be more worried if a coach begged some of them to stay to have unhappy kids on the bench. 

I was very critical of Anderson during the year.  Mostly about his in game coaching, rotations, etc.  In terms of roster management again call me crazy but if a kid wants to leave tough to beg them to return unless they are your top 3-4 players. 

All valid points, but

-it's a coaches job to establish a connection with his players and get them to buy in to doing what's best for the team. It isn't always going to work, but it's got to work with most kids if a coach is going to be successful. 

-CMA's system does not lend itself to high roster turnover 

-Our program has been in rebuilding mode for years. CMA was supposed to be creating a new culture and establishing some stability. This  "mass exodus"(as it was described in the Post) only lends itself to the perception that our program continues to be in shambles. Now, whether that's true or not is debatable, but the perception of it is not good for many reasons. 

-Individually none of the departures is a huge loss, but collectively they are. 

Again, if CMA goes out and gets better talent, and puts together a tournament  team next year, then all will be forgotten. But that is a very tall task based on where we stand right now. 

-

 

 

[Moose]

Good post Monte.

I agree with a lot of that.  The transfers don't change the end goal.  Still needs to be dance next year.  He's now given a complete team of his guys.  He's hit on his guys (Julian, Posh, Wusu) and missed on his guys (Cole, Moore, McGriff to lesser extent).  

 

[monte]

Good post Monte.

I agree with a lot of that.  The transfers don't change the end goal.  Still needs to be dance next year.  He's now given a complete team of his guys.  He's hit on his guys (Julian, Posh, Wusu) and missed on his guys (Cole, Moore, McGriff to lesser extent).  

Thanks Moose. As I've said before , this program rebuild won't necessarily be a straight line up. We may show some improvement next year and still come up a little short of the tournament. I'm ok with that if the groundwork is laid for the future. What I can't take is coming up short next year, and then having another mass exodus and us having to rebuild yet again for the following year. That's just a treadmill that well never get off. Maybe that's just the way college ball will be moving forward, but that won't bode well for the future of our program and for CMA. I just can't see us  ever being consistently  successful again if these are the new(permanent)  rules of engagement. 

 

 

[room112]

Maybe I care more about the program than you. Stop with the excuses. You can’t  be happy with what’s going on with kids leaving us in droves for years. Go ahead. Fire another salvo and be content with mediocrity.

So Mr. I Care More About the Program
What do you suggest we do?
Fire another coach?
Drop down to the Patriot League?
Ankle bracelets on the kids to ensure they stay 4 years?

I would truly sincerely love to hear

If Jeff Smith cared more about the team than we do, he'd have more than 104 posts on this board /media/kunena/emoticons/tongue.png

 

[Money]

https://twitter.com/nypost_brazille/status/1377355569858629632?s=21

Its not rocket science.  The Duke was one of the best players on the team and their were nights he played under 20 minutes.  Inexcusable!

This one falls on the coach for not playing his best guys.  Wasting time with Cole out there etc.

AHHH AHHH AHHH!  One of the best players on the team.  Are you serious?
this from the guy who changed his handle because one of the best players on the team sucked so bad for a huge stretch of games!  Just stop already
 

 

[WillyDilly]

https://twitter.com/nypost_brazille/status/1377355569858629632?s=21

Its not rocket science.  The Duke was one of the best players on the team and their were nights he played under 20 minutes.  Inexcusable!

This one falls on the coach for not playing his best guys.  Wasting time with Cole out there etc.


Your love affair with him is rather disturbing.   But with his transfer, does that mean you are becoming a fan of his new school?!?!
 

 

[Section3]

That sucks man.  But I do not blame him.  Coach didnt play him enough.  Guy should have been out there 30 minutes a game.

Was ridiculous.

got what he earned. When he played well he got PT...when he didn’t play well he sat...not the type of talent that plays unconditionally

 

[Section3]

Absolutely incredible.  I have no idea as to who is even on the team anymore.  The train is officially off the rails.  We might be better and we might be worse but I cannot continue to support this program.  A lack of stability indicates issues are running deeper than we all imagined.  I really like CMA but not sure what the heck is going on.  I get these were not his recruited players but the lack of any stability bothers me.  Pittsburgh situation looks way better than ours presently.

Are you aware that 74 teams have 5+ transfers...not an issue exclusive to SJ...a player who thinks he should get 35 minutes and 12 shots is going to consider it

 

[Section3]

I think am thankful guys like Greg and Marcellus stuck around the two years they did under CMA instead of bolting immediately. Which would have left us in alot worse of a spot than we are now. 

And, hopefully, they are thankful for the opportunities that he gave them that put them in a position to explore options. . .will be really interesting to see if they stay at the Power 6 level in which case they will be fortunate to match the opportunity they had here.

 

[Mean Gene]

How many transfer from Villanova?

Good point Jeff. Only 1 I believe.

 

[Section3]

What I just don't get is kids transfer and posters come out of the woodwork blaming the coach.  Is the coach supposed to keep an unhappy kid around?  Is coach supposed to start them as Seniors because they are Seniors? I wished Greg and Marcellus well.  They gave us 3 years and want to try something else.  

Funny how nobody blames kids for leaving, because they are 'kids', right?  Can't have it both ways.

I don't hide in the woodwork. I have praised CMA plenty over the past 2  years, but how you and others can absolve him of blame for this mass exodus  is beyond me. The buck stops with the coach, and while it's way to soon to pass judgement on next year's team, what's going on right now is extremely worrisome. And rest assured, if he does not replace the defectors with better players, we will once again be on the outside looking in on selection Sunday. And I'm sure if that happens, a lot of our fan base will blame the system and the kids who left as the reason. 





 

You've been here all year.  This week thought has been a blast from the past for me by quite a few.

But I still am not understanding your take.  It's worrisome that 6 kids left.  2 didnt play a lick.  2 were hated by most of the fan base and 2 were fan favorites from the last coach who while contributors weren't going to start next year (their last year technically).  I'd be more worried if a coach begged some of them to stay to have unhappy kids on the bench. 

I was very critical of Anderson during the year.  Mostly about his in game coaching, rotations, etc.  In terms of roster management again call me crazy but if a kid wants to leave tough to beg them to return unless they are your top 3-4 players. 

All valid points, but

-it's a coaches job to establish a connection with his players and get them to buy in to doing what's best for the team. It isn't always going to work, but it's got to work with most kids if a coach is going to be successful. 

-CMA's system does not lend itself to high roster turnover 

-Our program has been in rebuilding mode for years. CMA was supposed to be creating a new culture and establishing some stability. This  "mass exodus"(as it was described in the Post) only lends itself to the perception that our program continues to be in shambles. Now, whether that's true or not is debatable, but the perception of it is not good for many reasons. 

-Individually none of the departures is a huge loss, but collectively they are. 

Again, if CMA goes out and gets better talent, and puts together a tournament  team next year, then all will be forgotten. But that is a very tall task based on where we stand right now. 

-


 

Losing the players in 2021 is not his fault
Not replacing with better would be