Lavin parting ways with St.John's

Funny thing is when I read the name Bobby in these threads, I am not sure if it means Bobby Gempesaw, Bobby Hurley, or Bobby Gonzalez.
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Bobby Gonzalez! You must have a wildly low opinion of the administration.
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You're are right. I should have used a saner choice like Bobby Brown.
 
Everyone seems to think replacement will be Mullin. Compared to other names, I guess I would be ok with that. My concern would be recruiting. Everyone seems to think he brings Slice with him, but since Kentucky is in the middle of going 40-0, does Slice know he is part of package? And if yes, when did these discussions take place, as Kentucky is you know still playing.
 
The haters like to say he won with Norm's players. The funny thing about this is that these are the same people who say Lavin is a horrible in game coach. How is this logical in any way?
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Two teams full of seniors, two NCAA appearances. See also math, do the.
 
I am in what I believe to be the mostly silent majority(as evidenced by the poll) that wants Lavin to come back. I believe he has improved our program during the time he has been here and he has won enough games to warrant continuing the job. He has also handled his job with class and helped most of our players mature.

I don't care what the length of the extension is, as long as it's not too long, but I do think he deserves one. I understand some of the points that people who want him fired make such as use of timeouts, lack of depth on this years team, still waiting on recruits for next year and in game coaching. As far as his use of timeouts, even though I don't like it, it did work for him at times and many good coaches use timeouts in the same way. As far as depth on this years team, If Keith Thomas was eligible there was more than enough depth on this team and I don't think Lavin had any way of knowing about the academic issues. As far as next year, we have a top recruit in Sampson, Jordan and/or Obekpa might come back, we should have ADR, I like what I saw from Amar and Stewart, Lavin has signed a couple other scorers and is still in the running for other top recruits. Regarding in game coaching, I think his teams play very good defense overall and I think the offense has improved steadily in the last few years.

The haters like to say he won with Norm's players. The funny thing about this is that these are the same people who say Lavin is a horrible in game coach. How is this logical in any way?

People point to the UCLA fans that thought he was a horrible coach. I believe this is the loud minority(just like on this board) who hated him. Most times when I speak to rational fans of other teams, including UCLA they think Lavin is a good coach and a good guy and they are shocked when I tell them that alot of SJU fans want him gone. The same UCLA fans that wanted him gone are probably the ones who want Alford gone despite a surprising Sweet 16.
Speaking of Alford, he is the only coach in the sweet 16 that has been at his current job for less than 4 years. This is because winning programs are usually stable programs. Look at all the coaching changes in the last few years and note how low of a percentage of them turned out well.
We shouldn't be throwing away the progress we made as a program this year due to a loss to a very good SDSU team without Obekpa and one bad loss in the BET to a team that was tough to beat 3 times. Besides that we had a very good year overall and certainly an exciting one as a fan with many big wins.
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If we're going by the Redmen.com poll, then yes, 65% want Lavin to get an extension, while the other 35% voted no.

I am one of those in the 35%. I do not hate Steve Lavin. I have absolutely nothing personal against Steve Lavin. And I would say that 99% of the 35% feel the same way (with the exception of a few). Just because we want to go in a different direction doesn't mean we hate the guy. As Michael said, "it's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business."
 
Well if he is out, i thank him for taking a shot at bringing us back. And would of been nice to have Diallo, Mussini Sampson, Daughty next year. Now we can rebuild for 3 years not make the tourney and do this again in 2020.
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Sad day for program if true. They better hit a home run on the next coach if this is the case or many of the haters will have regrets.
 
Pre extension/parting ways drama I was told in Charlotte (by SJU personnel) that Chris Mullin is interested in the job. I never believed it but I guess there might be some truth to that.

-2 NCAA tourneys
-2 20+ win seasons
-2 NBA players

I don't care some of you don't like him. If we were to be under .500 next year I understand but now??? Not a right decision in my view.
 
Who is the agent? I would not want him as my agent with such a loud mouth.and no consideration for his client's confidentailty.
 
Funny thing is when I read the name Bobby in these threads, I am not sure if it means Bobby Gempesaw, Bobby Hurley, or Bobby Gonzalez.
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Bobby Gonzalez! You must have a wildly low opinion of the administration.
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You're are right. I should have used a saner choice like Bobby Brown.
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Paul what's your personal take in this if you can offer one - I'm disappointed if he's gone. I'm having an emotional flashback to when Fran F (not the same person/situation of course) was out of here.
Sad if true.
 
The Slice thing could make sense if Calipari is heading to the NBA but I would think he would have more lucrative options. I still live in the 80's so Mullin would make sense to me.
 
Who is the agent? I would not want him as my agent with such a loud mouth.and no consideration for his client's confidentailty.
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He may have been given the green light to leak the story thus scooping the speculators who had been getting it wrong.
 
with threads like this the site is going off the rails, where is your source buddy? don't say crap like this without a source.

I would bet this is BS. google just posted 2 days ago that his "sources" said monasch was fired. If this turns out to be crap I don't want a guy like this posting
 
Who is the agent? I would not want him as my agent with such a loud mouth.and no consideration for his client's confidentailty.
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He may have been given the green light to leak the story thus scooping the speculators who had been getting it wrong.
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So he leaked it to some dude who posts on a SJU fan board? No offense, but if there was strategic value to leaking it, Mr. Magoo would not have been the recipient.
 
The Slice thing could make sense if Calipari is heading to the NBA but I would think he would have more lucrative options. I still live in the 80's so Mullin would make sense to me.
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Totally agree about Slice. As for Mullin, can't see him taking the job if offered.
 
Funny thing is when I read the name Bobby in these threads, I am not sure if it means Bobby Gempesaw, Bobby Hurley, or Bobby Gonzalez.
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Bobby Gonzalez! You must have a wildly low opinion of the administration.
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You're are right. I should have used a saner choice like Bobby Brown.
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Paul what's your personal take in this if you can offer one - I'm disappointed if he's gone. I'm having an emotional flashback to when Fran F (not the same person/situation of course) was out of here.
Sad if true.
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I was disappointed in Lavin because I thought he had a higher ceiling and things started out so well with recruiting, however it makes sense to feel a little sad if you are sane. He got us to two NCAA's and there seems to be some good in him. Either way I wish him the best.
 
with threads like this the site is going off the rails, where is your source buddy? don't say crap like this without a source.

I would bet this is BS. google just posted 2 days ago that his "sources" said monasch was fired. If this turns out to be crap I don't want a guy like this posting
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Agreed. Just post that you are hearing he may be fired but have no confirmation. Don't go and start a new thread. I just logged in and thought it was a definite decision and breaking news it's just more BS speculation
 
Pre extension/parting ways drama I was told in Charlotte (by SJU personnel) that Chris Mullin is interested in the job. I never believed it but I guess there might be some truth to that.

-2 NCAA tourneys
-2 20+ win seasons
-2 NBA players

I don't care some of you don't like him. If we were to be under .500 next year I understand but now??? Not a right decision in my view.
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I agree the body of work from Lavin wasnt bad at all, but I think the fanbase would be pumped up if Mullin was the coach, I just don't really believe he is interested. Unless they hire a home-run letting Lavin go seems like a mistake.
 
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