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Lavin parting ways with St.John's
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boo haarvey
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Source please?
billthetruth
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St. John's is clueless.
Give Roberts 6 years without a sniff of making NCAA tournament and get rid of a guy that makes it.
They are going to get lambasted in the national media.
They better have a more than adequate replacement in mind!!!
Bobby better get this one right
Give Roberts 6 years without a sniff of making NCAA tournament and get rid of a guy that makes it.
They are going to get lambasted in the national media.
They better have a more than adequate replacement in mind!!!
Bobby better get this one right
boo haarvey
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I agree 100 percent. They better have a replacement lined up immediately or we're not going to be able to field a team next year. I'm sorry -- I've been a life long fan, but I have never been so down on the program. I really am beginning to think the administration is inept. I hope I'm proven very wrong. I will gladly eat my words and never stop loving the program, but I am astounded at how poorly this has been handled.
we are sju
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With SJU nothing ever adds up. 1 plus 1 doesn't even equal 2
stjohnschris
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would like to know the source, and maybe a question mark at the end of the headline (from the mods) until it is in fact true.
ErickTheRed
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Well if he is out, i thank him for taking a shot at bringing us back. And would of been nice to have Diallo, Mussini Sampson, Daughty next year. Now we can rebuild for 3 years not make the tourney and do this again in 2020.
boo haarvey
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That sounds like a pretty reliable source. Is he a personal friend of yours?
redmen2014champs
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I am in what I believe to be the mostly silent majority(as evidenced by the poll) that wants Lavin to come back. I believe he has improved our program during the time he has been here and he has won enough games to warrant continuing the job. He has also handled his job with class and helped most of our players mature.
I don't care what the length of the extension is, as long as it's not too long, but I do think he deserves one. I understand some of the points that people who want him fired make such as use of timeouts, lack of depth on this years team, still waiting on recruits for next year and in game coaching. As far as his use of timeouts, even though I don't like it, it did work for him at times and many good coaches use timeouts in the same way. As far as depth on this years team, If Keith Thomas was eligible there was more than enough depth on this team and I don't think Lavin had any way of knowing about the academic issues. As far as next year, we have a top recruit in Sampson, Jordan and/or Obekpa might come back, we should have ADR, I like what I saw from Amar and Stewart, Lavin has signed a couple other scorers and is still in the running for other top recruits. Regarding in game coaching, I think his teams play very good defense overall and I think the offense has improved steadily in the last few years.
The haters like to say he won with Norm's players. The funny thing about this is that these are the same people who say Lavin is a horrible in game coach. How is this logical in any way?
People point to the UCLA fans that thought he was a horrible coach. I believe this is the loud minority(just like on this board) who hated him. Most times when I speak to rational fans of other teams, including UCLA they think Lavin is a good coach and a good guy and they are shocked when I tell them that alot of SJU fans want him gone. The same UCLA fans that wanted him gone are probably the ones who want Alford gone despite a surprising Sweet 16.
Speaking of Alford, he is the only coach in the sweet 16 that has been at his current job for less than 4 years. This is because winning programs are usually stable programs. Look at all the coaching changes in the last few years and note how low of a percentage of them turned out well.
We shouldn't be throwing away the progress we made as a program this year due to a loss to a very good SDSU team without Obekpa and one bad loss in the BET to a team that was tough to beat 3 times. Besides that we had a very good year overall and certainly an exciting one as a fan with many big wins.
I don't care what the length of the extension is, as long as it's not too long, but I do think he deserves one. I understand some of the points that people who want him fired make such as use of timeouts, lack of depth on this years team, still waiting on recruits for next year and in game coaching. As far as his use of timeouts, even though I don't like it, it did work for him at times and many good coaches use timeouts in the same way. As far as depth on this years team, If Keith Thomas was eligible there was more than enough depth on this team and I don't think Lavin had any way of knowing about the academic issues. As far as next year, we have a top recruit in Sampson, Jordan and/or Obekpa might come back, we should have ADR, I like what I saw from Amar and Stewart, Lavin has signed a couple other scorers and is still in the running for other top recruits. Regarding in game coaching, I think his teams play very good defense overall and I think the offense has improved steadily in the last few years.
The haters like to say he won with Norm's players. The funny thing about this is that these are the same people who say Lavin is a horrible in game coach. How is this logical in any way?
People point to the UCLA fans that thought he was a horrible coach. I believe this is the loud minority(just like on this board) who hated him. Most times when I speak to rational fans of other teams, including UCLA they think Lavin is a good coach and a good guy and they are shocked when I tell them that alot of SJU fans want him gone. The same UCLA fans that wanted him gone are probably the ones who want Alford gone despite a surprising Sweet 16.
Speaking of Alford, he is the only coach in the sweet 16 that has been at his current job for less than 4 years. This is because winning programs are usually stable programs. Look at all the coaching changes in the last few years and note how low of a percentage of them turned out well.
We shouldn't be throwing away the progress we made as a program this year due to a loss to a very good SDSU team without Obekpa and one bad loss in the BET to a team that was tough to beat 3 times. Besides that we had a very good year overall and certainly an exciting one as a fan with many big wins.