Lavin parting ways with St.John's

[MJDinkins]

It's official. Regardless of what the decision will be, this could have been handled better.

We have several open scholarships and two players deciding whether to return. It is also getting ridiculously late in the recruiting cycle and we blew off an entire week. We have also furthered the perception that the program is a circus show. (see J. Rothstein's piece today)

President Bobby did NOT step up. Guess we will "just let it play out".

JF its been less than a week since we were eliminated. I'll assume the school did not start a dialogue till this week. I'm also gonna assume that the school and Lavin have a difference of opinion as to Lavin's worth and to the type of extension he deserves. Pres Bobby may very well have this as a priority but this may just take a bit more time then any of us would like.

Understood. However, if that's the case, you come out with a statement that provides a sense of stability and order. Something like......"The university is in negotiations with Coach Lavin, as we look forward to him guiding our program beyond his current contract" This would help with recruits, their families and handlers. If negotiations then fall through, so be it.

Still, this all should have been worked out weeks ago. If the administration was unsure about Lavin and wanted to see how the season ended, then why are we extending him? After all, he ended the season with a drug suspension, three awful losses and a lackluster recruiting class.

My feeling is that Lavin did just barely enough for the school to offer him an extension which heavily protects them. Maybe no CO incident and/or a W or 2 in the tournament and its a different story. Lavin in all likelihood feels he deserves way more than what the school is offering.. And that's where they stand. By early next week this has to come to a head.

That's imaginable.

 

[Mean Gene]

I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

Mussini to St. John's is very, much in play! We're still probably a few months away before hearing anything definitive.

For the one's writing off the 2015 recruiting class.... Currently, the class would leave us in a serious jam. Write it off as when it's been finalized. Still some "if's," per the class, but we're definitely in the "thick of things" when it comes to Diallo, Papagiannis, and Mussini. If they aren't a part of the class, and we're without Jordan and Obekpa, then it'll be ugly.

Otherwise, let's see how the class materializes. By the way, along with Sampson, the three above-mentioned players would give us four high-level recruits.

If Jordan and CO stay, which I think they will, then a class of Sampson, Doughty, Thompkins, Diallo and Papagiiannis would be excellent. we would have a very good team next year. If Mussini is a real question mark I will take the kid Randall, I like his size for a PG at 6'4. Add Albigovic, ADR and Felix. that's an NCAA team. Fingers crossed.

 

[thakid]

It's official. Regardless of what the decision will be, this could have been handled better.

We have several open scholarships and two players deciding whether to return. It is also getting ridiculously late in the recruiting cycle and we blew off an entire week. We have also furthered the perception that the program is a circus show. (see J. Rothstein's piece today)

President Bobby did NOT step up. Guess we will "just let it play out".

JF its been less than a week since we were eliminated. I'll assume the school did not start a dialogue till this week. I'm also gonna assume that the school and Lavin have a difference of opinion as to Lavin's worth and to the type of extension he deserves. Pres Bobby may very well have this as a priority but this may just take a bit more time then any of us would like.

Understood. However, if that's the case, you come out with a statement that provides a sense of stability and order. Something like......"The university is in negotiations with Coach Lavin, as we look forward to him guiding our program beyond his current contract" This would help with recruits, their families and handlers. If negotiations then fall through, so be it.

Still, this all should have been worked out weeks ago. If the administration was unsure about Lavin and wanted to see how the season ended, then why are we extending him? After all, he ended the season with a drug suspension, three awful losses and a lackluster recruiting class.

My feeling is that Lavin did just barely enough for the school to offer him an extension which heavily protects them. Maybe no CO incident and/or a W or 2 in the tournament and its a different story. Lavin in all likelihood feels he deserves way more than what the school is offering.. And that's where they stand. By early next week this has to come to a head.

This must have a resolution of no later than Tuesday of next week. If we have a coaching opening we need to have it before the final four and be ready to interview and/or offer candidates. New coach has to be in the week of the national title game. No later. Earlier would be better but can't be later. Also lavin should be armed w an extension to effectively recruit by then if they are keeping him. This needs to be resolved one way or the other ASAP.

 

[Marillac]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

 

[Redmen88]

I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

Mussini to St. John's is very, much in play! We're still probably a few months away before hearing anything definitive.

For the one's writing off the 2015 recruiting class.... Currently, the class would leave us in a serious jam. Write it off as when it's been finalized. Still some "if's," per the class, but we're definitely in the "thick of things" when it comes to Diallo, Papagiannis, and Mussini. If they aren't a part of the class, and we're without Jordan and Obekpa, then it'll be ugly.

Otherwise, let's see how the class materializes. By the way, along with Sampson, the three above-mentioned players would give us four high-level recruits.

If Jordan and CO stay, which I think they will, then a class of Sampson, Doughty, Thompkins, Diallo and Papagiiannis would be excellent. we would have a very good team next year. If Mussini is a real question mark I will take the kid Randall, I like his size for a PG at 6'4. Add Albigovic, ADR and Felix. that's an NCAA team. Fingers crossed.

We were a tournament team this year. Why the enthusiasm? What do you support mediocrity? Just joking, I would like to see that lineup also.

 

[JohnnyFan]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes, gives him more and more leverage.

 

[Marillac]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

 

[monte]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes, gives him more and more leverage.

But who's to say that there were not internal discussions before this week? In fact I would be extremely surprised if there were not. Maybe they had a few options ready depending on how the season ended, and then presented the best one(for them) to Lavin this week. My guess is that is exactly what happened. For as much as an urgency as there is from a basketball perspective, less then one week is not a very long time when it comes to negotiating a multi-million dollar contract extension.

 

[monte]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

 

[Andrew]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

We don't have time to wait for him.

 

[monte]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

We don't have time to wait for him.

WE don't have a choice

 

[JohnnyFan]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

I honestly don't know who to blame. I don't know enough about the organization and cannot decipher who is making decisions. I do know that, to both fans and the casual observer, the university does not come off as having their act together. That is not a good thing.

I also know that we are going to suffer the same Lavin nonsense for another 5 years. Does anyone actually believe that, after a lifetime in basketball, Lavin is going to change?

 

[monte]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

I honestly don't know who to blame. I don't know enough about the organization and cannot decipher who is making decisions. I do know that, to both fans and the casual observer, the university does not come off as having their act together. That is not a good thing.

I also know that we are going to suffer the same Lavin nonsense for another 5 years. Does anyone actually believe that, after a lifetime in basketball, Lavin is going to change?

Yes there are people who think that with the right assistant coaches, with a contract extension to motivate him, with another year of experience under his belt, etc. etc. etc., that he will change. I do not happen to be one of those people. What you've seen with Lavin is what you'll continue to see. So be prepared for more of the same if they come to an agreement on an extension.

 

[JohnnyFan]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

I honestly don't know who to blame. I don't know enough about the organization and cannot decipher who is making decisions. I do know that, to both fans and the casual observer, the university does not come off as having their act together. That is not a good thing.

I also know that we are going to suffer the same Lavin nonsense for another 5 years. Does anyone actually believe that, after a lifetime in basketball, Lavin is going to change?

Yes there are people who think that with the right assistant coaches, with a contract extension to motivate him, with another year of experience under his belt, etc. etc. etc., that he will change. I do not happen to be one of those people. What you've seen with Lavin is what you'll continue to see. So be prepared for more of the same if they come to an agreement on an extension.

Absolutely agree.

 

[simplyred]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

I honestly don't know who to blame. I don't know enough about the organization and cannot decipher who is making decisions. I do know that, to both fans and the casual observer, the university does not come off as having their act together. That is not a good thing.

I also know that we are going to suffer the same Lavin nonsense for another 5 years. Does anyone actually believe that, after a lifetime in basketball, Lavin is going to change?

I'm actually hoping he repeats his past pattern. #1 and #2 ranked recruiting classes, Sweet 16's and Elite 8's.

 

[JohnnyFan]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

I honestly don't know who to blame. I don't know enough about the organization and cannot decipher who is making decisions. I do know that, to both fans and the casual observer, the university does not come off as having their act together. That is not a good thing.

I also know that we are going to suffer the same Lavin nonsense for another 5 years. Does anyone actually believe that, after a lifetime in basketball, Lavin is going to change?

I'm actually hoping he repeats his past pattern. #1 and #2 ranked recruiting classes, Sweet 16's and Elite 8's.

And with that........I am going to bed.

 

[redken]

Maybe the administration did not know what direction they wanted to go in and just wanted to talk it over and look at all options? Is that so hard to believe. In that situation, you can't announce "we are thinking things over." It gives Lavin an opportunity to seal the deal by getting a commitment from Diallo or another big time recruit and perhaps some opportunity to gauge the interest of candidates through back channels.

It's still been less than a week. One thing is for sure, no decision that will be made will be easy.

I agree that it is a possibility, but it is a poor approach. Serious internal discussions should have been taking place well before the season's end. He has been here for 5 years, they know what he is and what he isn't.

By the way, Lavin is no fool. Every day that passes give him more and more leverage.

We live and die with this team and five random Redmen.comer's could not come to a unanimous decision in six days. You think a new president and AD-less athletic department can? This decision--right or wrong as it may be--will likely be the single biggest factor for how Bobby is perceived and later remembered as president of St. John's University. That might be more of an indictment on the sad state of college athletics, but we all know it's the truth--especially at St. John's.

For all we know, the ball could be in Lavin's court and he may be asking for time to decide. Why are you guys automatically blaming the Pres and administration?

I honestly don't know who to blame. I don't know enough about the organization and cannot decipher who is making decisions. I do know that, to both fans and the casual observer, the university does not come off as having their act together. That is not a good thing.

I also know that we are going to suffer the same Lavin nonsense for another 5 years. Does anyone actually believe that, after a lifetime in basketball, Lavin is going to change?

I'm actually hoping he repeats his past pattern. #1 and #2 ranked recruiting classes, Sweet 16's and Elite 8's.

And with that........I am going to bed.

Marillac: I assure you, it's not with me.

 

[beast of the east]

Sometimes it's not easy to find your groove when you get pulled from the game right away. Then you don't see the floor in a game again for a month. If Felix was thrown into the fire like PG4 was as a frosh and got a guaranteed 30 plus a game, you'd see a difference in Felix' game... Lavin had his favs and they saw the minutes even when they should not have

I was surprised that Balamou didn't get any burn in the tournament game. Was that due to his injury?

Had nothing to do with an injury...very upset about it.... I personally would've put him in b4 jdr.. Granted I'd put keady in b4 jdr

If i'm not mistaken, hours before the game at the pre game reception Lavin mentioned that FB's ankle was bothering him. If he was ready to go probably could have used him. But overall, anyone who was 7 or above on depth chart has no beefs because all in all they did not play well when given a chance to grab serious minutes in the rotation. Not a single one of them would garner any interest by a major conference team should they decide to leave.

 

[bamafan]

whatever you want to fault Lavin for if CJ and FB are complaining they've got no legs to stand on. They had a bunch of opportunities to shine and we really could have used both of them. CJ is one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched at St John's. He looks like he's bored and got better things to do every time he's on the floor. How many rebounds did CJ stand and watch, or two footers did FB miss when they got PT? I thought a lot higher of FB coming into this season than most but he really did not maximize his opportunities and that is on him. In a season where we were desperate for muscle, CJ was a limp noodle.

Respectfully disagree when it comes to FB... I saw him play a few times at osna...The kid has BE skills... He is probably the fastest on the court at any given time and has the best hops at any given time... He is very raw.. Hasn't been playing anywhere near as long as some of these other guys. Coaching and consistency is what would take FB to another level in his game. Neither of which he has received so far at St Johns... I agree with you on CJ though...

Well Lavin did do FB a solid by burning his redshirt season last year. So there is that.

 

[bamafan]

I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

Mussini to St. John's is very, much in play! We're still probably a few months away before hearing anything definitive.

For the one's writing off the 2015 recruiting class.... Currently, the class would leave us in a serious jam. Write it off as when it's been finalized. Still some "if's," per the class, but we're definitely in the "thick of things" when it comes to Diallo, Papagiannis, and Mussini. If they aren't a part of the class, and we're without Jordan and Obekpa, then it'll be ugly.

Otherwise, let's see how the class materializes. By the way, along with Sampson, the three above-mentioned players would give us four high-level recruits.

If Jordan and CO stay, which I think they will, then a class of Sampson, Doughty, Thompkins, Diallo and Papagiiannis would be excellent. we would have a very good team next year. If Mussini is a real question mark I will take the kid Randall, I like his size for a PG at 6'4. Add Albigovic, ADR and Felix. that's an NCAA team. Fingers crossed.

Agree team would have good personnel. But a whole new, young team coached by Lavin is doubtful for an NCAA bid. Can you imagine the experimenting and tinkering Lavin would do with that team? Jell by the following season, maybe.