Lavin parting ways with St.John's

I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

We'll all see when it's official. If deal done then why are they keeping it a secret?
Atleast we should all know by tomorrow morning or I guess he sent you bs.

I mean if it's a done deal, sju won't let us know?
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

I like it!

Caution
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

This sounds quite legit, especially his reference to Papagiannis.
His coming is knowledge that's quite privy.
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

Front court of Obekpa, Papa New Guinea and diallo would be pretty sick. Add the Italian kid and sheed and we're in pretty good shape
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

We'll all see when it's official. If deal done then why are they keeping it a secret?
Atleast we should all know by tomorrow morning or I guess he sent you bs.

I mean if it's a done deal, sju won't let us know?

It could be bs but his text did say they are negotiating so why announce something that is not finalized.
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

I like it!

Caution

I read Paultz picture avatar language like others used to read DLO's body language. I find myself looking everyday to see what pic Paultz has put up to get a clue as to what's happening :)
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

Front court of Obekpa, Papa New Guinea and diallo would be pretty sick. Add the Italian kid and sheed and we're in pretty good shape

With ADR possibly coming off the bench, that's a lot of size.
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

We'll all see when it's official. If deal done then why are they keeping it a secret?
Atleast we should all know by tomorrow morning or I guess he sent you bs.

I mean if it's a done deal, sju won't let us know?

It could be bs but his text did say they are negotiating so why announce something that is not finalized.

I mean the thing is, usually schools float out some type of vote of confidence to the coach if they're planning to bring him back. That's not saying you're wrong or anything, but this whole thing is just a bit weird.

Today we've had two different sources who are very confident, one saying he will get fired and one saying he will get extended. This is just crazy.
 
whatever you want to fault Lavin for if CJ and FB are complaining they've got no legs to stand on. They had a bunch of opportunities to shine and we really could have used both of them. CJ is one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched at St John's. He looks like he's bored and got better things to do every time he's on the floor. How many rebounds did CJ stand and watch, or two footers did FB miss when they got PT? I thought a lot higher of FB coming into this season than most but he really did not maximize his opportunities and that is on him. In a season where we were desperate for muscle, CJ was a limp noodle.
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

We'll all see when it's official. If deal done then why are they keeping it a secret?
Atleast we should all know by tomorrow morning or I guess he sent you bs.

I mean if it's a done deal, sju won't let us know?

It could be bs but his text did say they are negotiating so why announce something that is not finalized.

I mean the thing is, usually schools float out some type of vote of confidence to the coach if they're planning to bring him back. That's not saying you're wrong or anything, but this whole thing is just a bit weird.

Today we've had two different sources who are very confident, one saying he will get fired and one saying he will get extended. This is just crazy.

I agree 100%, doesn't make sense but since we all need some type of professional help for being so loyal to this program I thought I would share and add to the fun.
 
Sometimes it's not easy to find your groove when you get pulled from the game right away. Then you don't see the floor in a game again for a month. If Felix was thrown into the fire like PG4 was as a frosh and got a guaranteed 30 plus a game, you'd see a difference in Felix' game... Lavin had his favs and they saw the minutes even when they should not have

I was surprised that Balamou didn't get any burn in the tournament game. Was that due to his injury?

He has not been able to develop into a player that could fill the need of the moment.
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

I like it!

Caution

I read Paultz picture avatar language like others used to read DLO's body language. I find myself looking everyday to see what pic Paultz has put up to get a clue as to what's happening :)

Paultz, the people have got to know, is he waving hello or goodbye?
 
In Lavins defense he does seem to have a really special relationship with the seniors

He does. Maybe he's not on great terms with all these bench players

Or maybe they're unhappy about playing time

Thats why its really important to identify and then recruit kids who can actually contribute at this level. It does no one any good to bring kids in who are better suited for much lower level of competition.

Problem is no one knows -- regardless of scouting hype and guru rankings -- who will "actually contribute at this level." We were all disappointed when 5-star Jermaine Lawrence picked Manhattan over St. John's after an abysmal freshman season at Cincinnati. Who knew that his time at Manhattan would be even worse, putting up insignificant stats and then being dropped for the final six games or so of the season for violating team rules (sound familiar?). And many of us wanted Jon Severe, another highly touted local kid, who's been a total -- and disruptive -- bust at Fordham (let alone at the BE level). And five-star Isaiah Whitehead has proved to be anything but a one-and-done talent. Bottom line: Identifying talent isn't such an easy thing to do; and sometimes taking kids who are projected as being "better suited" for a lower level of play turn out to be hidden gems.
 
And for what it's worth, I also just got a text saying that there's been "no word on Monasch" but that "a lot people prefer Ed Kull who was former assistant AD and now works as the Acting VP for Institutional Advancement".

There, I am done being the messenger :woohoo:
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

I like it!

Caution

I read Paultz picture avatar language like others used to read DLO's body language. I find myself looking everyday to see what pic Paultz has put up to get a clue as to what's happening :)

Paultz, the people have got to know, is he waving hello or goodbye?

Or 5 years as another poster noted. :)
 
Sometimes it's not easy to find your groove when you get pulled from the game right away. Then you don't see the floor in a game again for a month. If Felix was thrown into the fire like PG4 was as a frosh and got a guaranteed 30 plus a game, you'd see a difference in Felix' game... Lavin had his favs and they saw the minutes even when they should not have

I was surprised that Balamou didn't get any burn in the tournament game. Was that due to his injury?

Had nothing to do with an injury...very upset about it.... I personally would've put him in b4 jdr.. Granted I'd put keady in b4 jdr
 
I'm cutting and pasting a text I just received from someone who has been reliable with his info in the past. I'm not vouching for it, just sharing what I just got in a text.

"Lavin deal done in principle. Today's twitter rumors bull shit. Negotiating length, terms of extension. Diallo down to Iowa State and SJU. Johnnies in very good shape for Papagiannis. Sju waffling on Lavin is perception vs reality"

And for what it's worth he also sent me this;

"Sju signee Samir Doughty named philly public school player of the year.
sju commit Brandon Sampson Louisiana 1A outstanding player of the year."

We'll all see when it's official. If deal done then why are they keeping it a secret?
Atleast we should all know by tomorrow morning or I guess he sent you bs.

I mean if it's a done deal, sju won't let us know?

It could be bs but his text did say they are negotiating so why announce something that is not finalized.

They could let every sju fan know that he's coming back or not, then say that they are working out a few minor things on the contract.
 
With total disregard for what is being said and by who, my thought is Lavin is getting extended just by following this process and using a bit of common sense.

If they were going to fire him, it would be done. I have NEVER heard of an administration calling a coach in for an hour and a half to allow him to try and talk his way out of losing his job. It just doesn't work that way. The decision is done, you call him in, break the news, then you announce it to let people know St. John's is hiring, and you start the search for a new coach. The fact this is taking so long is that the only thing they are negotiating is Lavin's extension. When somebody is fired it is usually all business, it is not this drawn out.
 
It's official. Regardless of what the decision will be, this could have been handled better.

We have several open scholarships and two players deciding whether to return. It is also getting ridiculously late in the recruiting cycle and we blew off an entire week. We have also furthered the perception that the program is a circus show. (see J. Rothstein's piece today)

President Bobby did NOT step up. Guess we will "just let it play out".
 
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