Lavin Commentary Rutgers Game

[Moose]

I also thought he looked good tonight and thought his smile was because he was happy we won.

LETS GIVE LAV CREDIT He kept the program progressing and he is a nice person

Please for the love of God

LETS LEAVE GOD OUT OF THIS

Why? It's a thread about Satan.

Goodness. Give the guy a break. The Lavin era is over. He's a decent guy. Let's not call him satan.

It was a joke. (sort of)

But I will say this. Last night, seeing Felix Balamou, two emotions keep running through my mind: (1) shocked --in a good way --that he that kind of tenaciousness and rebounding ability against D1 talent and (2) incredibly sad/angered that Lavin pissed away a year of his eligibility, just so he could let Rysheed Jordan and Jakarr Sampson know who's boss. Not the act of a "decent" guy.

Obviously that move sucked. That's why I didn't say he was a good guy or a great guy. He's just a decent guy. Classy on camera, well spoken, the seniors that just graduated loved him, he's nice to the fans. Not a bright basketball coach, which showed when he cost Felix and year of eligibility (and showed when with the way our teams played over the years), but as a person he seems ok.

I don't know how else to word it. I was for him getting fired. I wanted him gone. But I'm not gonna bash the dude personally. I basically grew up watching that Harrison through the years. I was 14 when they arrived. I worship those guys. And they don't have a bad thing to say about Lavin as a man, so I'm not gonna bash him either

Its not a question of Lavin necessarily. Its jut there are some who still put him on a godly pedestal and for the life of me I can't figure out how blind they are to what he was doing here. I can live without ever saying another word about him but when I see some of the praise he gets it infuriates me.

 

[Jack Williams]

Moose I see what you mean. (Not quoting your post cause the quotes were getting long). People think he had a much better coaching career here than he actually did.

If we are talking about him as a coach, I'm not gonna support him.

On the other hand people who didn't like him as a coach can get pretty personal and deep when critiquing the job he did. That's where I come to his defenses because I dont think its nessecary

 

[we are sju]

I am pretty neutral when it comes to Lavin. Did not think he was a good coach and found him irritating and in a word a poser.With that being said he was the third most successful coach of the program since I have been a fan and though I am all in on Mullin, don't understand the hatred?

Norm hatred I can understand. Jarvis though personally I don't feel it, I can understand. Lavin I kind of just shrug off.

 

[paultzman]

I also thought he looked good tonight and thought his smile was because he was happy we won.

LETS GIVE LAV CREDIT He kept the program progressing and he is a nice person

Please for the love of God

LETS LEAVE GOD OUT OF THIS

Why? It's a thread about Satan.

Goodness. Give the guy a break. The Lavin era is over. He's a decent guy. Let's not call him satan.

It was a joke. (sort of)

But I will say this. Last night, seeing Felix Balamou, two emotions keep running through my mind: (1) shocked --in a good way --that he that kind of tenaciousness and rebounding ability against D1 talent and (2) incredibly sad/angered that Lavin pissed away a year of his eligibility, just so he could let Rysheed Jordan and Jakarr Sampson know who's boss. Not the act of a "decent" guy.

Obviously that move sucked. That's why I didn't say he was a good guy or a great guy. He's just a decent guy. Classy on camera, well spoken, the seniors that just graduated loved him, he's nice to the fans. Not a bright basketball coach, which showed when he cost Felix and year of eligibility (and showed when with the way our teams played over the years), but as a person he seems ok.

I don't know how else to word it. I was for him getting fired. I wanted him gone. But I'm not gonna bash the dude personally. I basically grew up watching that Harrison through the years. I was 14 when they arrived. I worship those guys. And they don't have a bad thing to say about Lavin as a man, so I'm not gonna bash him either

Its not a question of Lavin necessarily. Its jut there are some who still put him on a godly pedestal and for the life of me I can't figure out how blind they are to what he was doing here. I can live without ever saying another word about him but when I see some of the praise he gets it infuriates me.

But with due respect, do you think your responses will alter their thinking or just make you feel better?

 

[usguard]

I also thought he looked good tonight and thought his smile was because he was happy we won.

LETS GIVE LAV CREDIT He kept the program progressing and he is a nice person

Please for the love of God

LETS LEAVE GOD OUT OF THIS

Why? It's a thread about Satan.

Goodness. Give the guy a break. The Lavin era is over. He's a decent guy. Let's not call him satan.

It was a joke. (sort of)

But I will say this. Last night, seeing Felix Balamou, two emotions keep running through my mind: (1) shocked --in a good way --that he that kind of tenaciousness and rebounding ability against D1 talent and (2) incredibly sad/angered that Lavin pissed away a year of his eligibility, just so he could let Rysheed Jordan and Jakarr Sampson know who's boss. Not the act of a "decent" guy.

Obviously that move sucked. That's why I didn't say he was a good guy or a great guy. He's just a decent guy. Classy on camera, well spoken, the seniors that just graduated loved him, he's nice to the fans. Not a bright basketball coach, which showed when he cost Felix and year of eligibility (and showed when with the way our teams played over the years), but as a person he seems ok.

I don't know how else to word it. I was for him getting fired. I wanted him gone. But I'm not gonna bash the dude personally. I basically grew up watching that Harrison through the years. I was 14 when they arrived. I worship those guys. And they don't have a bad thing to say about Lavin as a man, so I'm not gonna bash him either

Its not a question of Lavin necessarily. Its jut there are some who still put him on a godly pedestal and for the life of me I can't figure out how blind they are to what he was doing here. I can live without ever saying another word about him but when I see some of the praise he gets it infuriates me.

We can not put him on a pedestal he left a lot to be desired. I for one was hugely disappointed WE ALL HAVE TOO MANY GOOD THINGS TO TALK ABOUT NOW

 

[Moose]

I also thought he looked good tonight and thought his smile was because he was happy we won.

LETS GIVE LAV CREDIT He kept the program progressing and he is a nice person

Please for the love of God

LETS LEAVE GOD OUT OF THIS

Why? It's a thread about Satan.

Goodness. Give the guy a break. The Lavin era is over. He's a decent guy. Let's not call him satan.

It was a joke. (sort of)

But I will say this. Last night, seeing Felix Balamou, two emotions keep running through my mind: (1) shocked --in a good way --that he that kind of tenaciousness and rebounding ability against D1 talent and (2) incredibly sad/angered that Lavin pissed away a year of his eligibility, just so he could let Rysheed Jordan and Jakarr Sampson know who's boss. Not the act of a "decent" guy.

Obviously that move sucked. That's why I didn't say he was a good guy or a great guy. He's just a decent guy. Classy on camera, well spoken, the seniors that just graduated loved him, he's nice to the fans. Not a bright basketball coach, which showed when he cost Felix and year of eligibility (and showed when with the way our teams played over the years), but as a person he seems ok.

I don't know how else to word it. I was for him getting fired. I wanted him gone. But I'm not gonna bash the dude personally. I basically grew up watching that Harrison through the years. I was 14 when they arrived. I worship those guys. And they don't have a bad thing to say about Lavin as a man, so I'm not gonna bash him either

Its not a question of Lavin necessarily. Its jut there are some who still put him on a godly pedestal and for the life of me I can't figure out how blind they are to what he was doing here. I can live without ever saying another word about him but when I see some of the praise he gets it infuriates me.

But with due respect, do you think your responses will alter their thinking or just make you feel better?

Such an antagonist.

To answer you're question- both

 

[mkras99]

Usguard - please stop posting in all caps.

Thanks.

 

[we are sju]

Usguard - please stop posting in all caps.

Thanks.

Did Realfan ever post on this site? Whatever happened to him?

 

[MainMan]

I remember when Lav took us to Alaska and we won. That was great.

 

[TRabinowitz]

I remember when Lav took us to Alaska and we won. That was great.

Mike Dunlap took us to Alaska and won.

 

[we are sju]

I don't care what anyone says, I will always be grateful to Lavin for bringing respectability back to the program. For all his faults you can't deny that. During Norm years I would have bet the school discontinued the program before we ever made a tourney again. Games were unwatchable.

 

[1and1sju]

I also thought he looked good tonight and thought his smile was because he was happy we won.

LETS GIVE LAV CREDIT He kept the program progressing and he is a nice person

Please for the love of God

LETS LEAVE GOD OUT OF THIS

Why? It's a thread about Satan.

Goodness. Give the guy a break. The Lavin era is over. He's a decent guy. Let's not call him satan.

When I want to insult Satan, I call him "Lavs".

 

[1and1sju]

In other commenting related news, I was stuck in traffic for much of the first half last night.
Why does Brandon Tierney insist on referring to Chris as "Mully"? Where the hell did that come from?

 

[fun]

I am pretty neutral when it comes to Lavin. Did not think he was a good coach and found him irritating and in a word a poser.With that being said he was the third most successful coach of the program since I have been a fan and though I am all in on Mullin, don't understand the hatred?

Norm hatred I can understand. Jarvis though personally I don't feel it, I can understand. Lavin I kind of just shrug off.

It's pretty simple. Norm was a good guy who was a bad coach. Lavin is an awful human being and a mediocre coach. At least Norm tried. Lavin never did. And the whole time he wasn't trying he sat around whining because everyone wasn't as pleased with him as he is with himself.

 

[Red.Fans]

When I want to insult Satan, I call him "Lavs".

Seems like a bit of a double standard there Desco when you have given the Mullin staff a complete pass on their choice of shoes.

 

[1and1sju]

When I want to insult Satan, I call him "Lavs".

Seems like a bit of a double standard there Desco when you have given the Mullin staff a complete pass on their choice of shoes.

I'm giving them some time to find their way Paul. I need a fall, winter, spring to see their full ensembles before I can give a detailed fashion critique. Let's see if they break out anything funky for Maui.
I'm guessing golf/polo shirt for Mullin, but you never know. They could surprise us and all wear board shorts with Hawaiian shirts.

 

[ManhattAn1]

Awful human being?
That is way beyond harsh. He did and does a lot for kids with cancer. Ton of people came up to him last night he signed autographs took pictures. Sounds like a real terrible guy.

And Rabinowitz - grow up, you go to games and act like a 2 year old behind the bench. More in life than college basketball suggest you get out more.

 

[paultzman]

K

When I want to insult Satan, I call him "Lavs".

Seems like a bit of a double standard there Desco when you have given the Mullin staff a complete pass on their choice of shoes.

I'm giving them some time to find their way Paul. I need a fall, winter, spring to see their full ensembles before I can give a detailed fashion critique. Let's see if they break out anything funky for Maui.
I'm guessing golf/polo shirt for Mullin, but you never know. They could surprise us and all wear board shorts with Hawaiian shirts.

Matt in a thong evokes a chuckle.

 

[we are sju]

I am pretty neutral when it comes to Lavin. Did not think he was a good coach and found him irritating and in a word a poser.With that being said he was the third most successful coach of the program since I have been a fan and though I am all in on Mullin, don't understand the hatred?

Norm hatred I can understand. Jarvis though personally I don't feel it, I can understand. Lavin I kind of just shrug off.

It's pretty simple. Norm was a good guy who was a bad coach. Lavin is an awful human being and a mediocre coach. At least Norm tried. Lavin never did. And the whole time he wasn't trying he sat around whining because everyone wasn't as pleased with him as he is with himself.

Never understood the "nice guy" thing. In old BEB days when people would use that excuse for him I would want to smash the computer into my face. I am a nice guy but I don't think I should be coaching SJU basketball.

But again niceness not high on my lists of qualities in a basketball coach. Heck I liked Elite 8 team so much Jarvis gets a hatred pass from me.

 

[fun]

I am pretty neutral when it comes to Lavin. Did not think he was a good coach and found him irritating and in a word a poser.With that being said he was the third most successful coach of the program since I have been a fan and though I am all in on Mullin, don't understand the hatred?

Norm hatred I can understand. Jarvis though personally I don't feel it, I can understand. Lavin I kind of just shrug off.

It's pretty simple. Norm was a good guy who was a bad coach. Lavin is an awful human being and a mediocre coach. At least Norm tried. Lavin never did. And the whole time he wasn't trying he sat around whining because everyone wasn't as pleased with him as he is with himself.

Never understood the "nice guy" thing. In old BEB days when people would use that excuse for him I would want to smash the computer into my face. I am a nice guy but I don't think I should be coaching SJU basketball.

But again niceness not high on my lists of qualities in a basketball coach. Heck I liked Elite 8 team so much Jarvis gets a hatred pass from me.

I don't think see it as making an excuse. Norm, nice guy, bad coach, should not have been retained for being the former and should have been fired for being the latter. But that he was a bad coach doesn't mean he didn't have any redeeming qualities. Just like being a winning coach doesn't make Bob Knight a good guy. Lavin though is a simply fraud, both as a coach and as a person. He makes my skin crawl.