Kansas St., Sat., Dec. 7, 11:30am, FOX
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Tang seems like a really good guy. Hope Kansas State does well this year because that will be good for us but also because he's a guy who is easy to root for.
DK do you have the link to this or any chance you could dm me the picture without the markups?
Its on the Apple Sports app. Highly recommend it: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/apple-sports/id6446788829
Thanks!
Larry Wright
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People can like whoever they want. Carmine liked Avery Patterson. Mase JR liked Mase JR. Marillac liked Geno. Those were 3 of the worst players we have ever had.
People can like Dunlap. The Dunlap can shoot thing is what confounds me. At this point if people claimed he was the he best dunker on the team I would be more ok with that.
People can like Dunlap. The Dunlap can shoot thing is what confounds me. At this point if people claimed he was the he best dunker on the team I would be more ok with that.
I can't believe Avery Patterson played here almost 20 years ago. Time flies by.
LOL. Many On this board, myself included, caught a glimpse of Walter Berry on the broadcast yesterday. Guys 1985 is almost 40 years ago. Yikes.
Walter looked good though. Happy to see some of our guys still supporting the Program. Like to see them come around.
Rocket
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If that were the case then Carnesecca arena would be standing room only with Astoria Greeks scooping up tickets to see Lefty gets his 2 minutes per game.
The reason some fans cheer for Brady is because they still believe the hype about his long range shooting ability. He has it, yes, but obviously that must be in practices.
It even fools Pitino!
Yesterday Hausen showed us what we hoped Brady would be. Maybe we make that acquisition next season and Brady plays for Lavin at San Diego.
Hausen showed a lot more than just being a spot up shooter offensively IMO.If that were the case then Carnesecca arena would be standing room only with Astoria Greeks scooping up tickets to see Lefty gets his 2 minutes per game.
The reason some fans cheer for Brady is because they still believe the hype about his long range shooting ability. He has it, yes, but obviously that must be in practices.
It even fools Pitino!
Yesterday Hausen showed us what we hoped Brady would be. Maybe we make that acquisition next season and Brady plays for Lavin at San Diego.
carmineabbatiello
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Ain't happening.$$$.
Yesterday was electric. I have never seen Carnesecca Arena like that before . Anyone I spoke to that was around for our glory years told me that’s how it use to be for every game. We need to get back to that
Tremendous job by our student section. Our fan base can be so powerful just gotta keep winning . Only year 2 of the new era , we’re coming . We are ….
Tremendous job by our student section. Our fan base can be so powerful just gotta keep winning . Only year 2 of the new era , we’re coming . We are ….
SJUDave
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He drove the lane, put the ball on the floor, and hit tough shots...he was wildly impressive
It’s too bad we didn’t play Kansas instead of Kansas State . They list their 2nd game of the week to Missouri .
They won’t be Number 1 this week
They won’t be Number 1 this week
So - and not intended as being argumentative, just something that stuck out to me - In 19 minutes while scoring 3 points and collecting zero assists and zero rebounds Dunlap was -1. In 22 minutes while scoring 5 points and with 9 (!) rebounds and 3 assists Smith was +1.
What do we make of that? Defense? Who they were on the floor with and when?
Plus/minus in basketball has always been a strange stat to me. My own back-of-the-envelope method is to give you the points you score, one point for positive things that relate to possession (rebounds, steals), minus one point for negative things that relate to possession (turnovers), and two points for things that relate directly to points (assists, blocks). Obviously that doesn't consider many aspects of defense.
But by my (totally amateur) metric, on that stats above Dunlap would get a 3 and Smith would get a 20 (17 point difference) but the plus/minus is a 2 point difference. Does that mean Dunlap's defense is a plus 15 as compared to Smith? Not to my eye, which is all I have for defense (since I am not sold on any of the defense metrics I've seen).
There are so many advanced metrics in basketball these days that I don't know what to make of anything. But I've always felt that plus/minus is overrated in basketball. Hockey is another story.
I think our Society and Sports fans in particular have gone Bat SH-T crazy over statistics .
In Baseball it has come to rule the playing of the game . Hitters who can barely hit 220 and strike out over 100 times and hit 40 home runs are regarded as Stars .
Back in the day , when Baseball flourished , a 220 hitter would be in the Minors , not the Majors . No matter how many HR’s he hit .
Same with Pitching today . Guys who pitch 5 innings and get a no decision are praised .
Tom Seaver , Bob Gibson , Koufax , and countless others would laugh at a 5 inning pitcher .
Strikeouts , Wins , Losses , Innings pitched , are still and should be the definitive measurement of the Skill of the Pitcher .
We are heading to a point where Pitchers today aren’t going to Win 100 games .
Basketball Stats to me , are the same as they have been for 100 years . Scoring average , Rebounds, Assists , Steals Blocks , minutes played are
still the gold standard for evaluating performance
Hockey is a whole different case and I’m
Not going to get into that .