Kadary
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Moose
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You eternal optimist
Maybe I should have said “assumed” v assume
MugCostanza
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Pretty much every important metric is down from last season and check out how bad they are in the 3 tier A+B games (New Mexico, Baylor, Georgia). To me, the numbers indicate he's not adjusting well to not being the focal point of the offense every game. That was a concern with the roster construction heading into the season and something Pitino is going to have to figure out
Moose
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Wow that chart is like nerd heaven. Good stuff.
Kadary with his best game against Harvard.
Not sure that he has the ball initiating offense enough when Smith plays with him. Need Smith for speed of play and looks at open 3’s, but need Kadary to do what only he can do in the lane.
Can Pitino figure out a way to get the best out of both of them, or is this the Island of Misfit Toys? Need the best of both to be top 3 in league and Dance this year. No evidence yet that they can play together.
Exactly. It's tough to play with 2 PGs who operate at different speeds. Either make Kadary the SF and let Smith run a fast-break offense or make Smith instant offense off the bench, give Kadary the ball in the middle of the floor, and let him score or break defenses with the pass which is what he does well.
The "eh let's play them both and things will work out" approach is not promising thus far.
hnkcolumbia
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I still don't understand why they don't have Kadary flash to the foul line and feed him. He is unstoppable from there without doubling or tripling him and then he'd get a ton of assists or get to the foul line. Are they saving this for the Big East or something?
Rothstein on Kadary;
“Kadary Richmond has quietly regained his old form”
“This guy was a non-factor when St. John’s lost to Georgia by three on Nov. 24th in the Bahamas as he tallied just three points, four rebounds, and two assists. In the two games since Richmond has returned to the form that made him college basketball’s most coveted transfer during the offseason. During that span, the 6-6 guard has averaged 15.5 points, 7.0 rebounds, 4.0 assists, and 3.0 blocks while shooting an impressive 13-25 from the field. The Red Storm can’t come close to reaching their ceiling this season unless Richmond is one of the best players in the Big East. Rick Pitino’s will take a 7-2 record into tonight’s game against Bryant at Carnesecca Arena (7 PM ET, CBS Sports Network)”
“Kadary Richmond has quietly regained his old form”
“This guy was a non-factor when St. John’s lost to Georgia by three on Nov. 24th in the Bahamas as he tallied just three points, four rebounds, and two assists. In the two games since Richmond has returned to the form that made him college basketball’s most coveted transfer during the offseason. During that span, the 6-6 guard has averaged 15.5 points, 7.0 rebounds, 4.0 assists, and 3.0 blocks while shooting an impressive 13-25 from the field. The Red Storm can’t come close to reaching their ceiling this season unless Richmond is one of the best players in the Big East. Rick Pitino’s will take a 7-2 record into tonight’s game against Bryant at Carnesecca Arena (7 PM ET, CBS Sports Network)”
tom in salem
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Rothstein?
As in Jon
tom in salem
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tom in salem
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I was being facetious. He's the worst.
Too often we refer to posters who criticize as “haters”. To me Kadary has value with his bullying style getting to the rim, his mid range game, rebounding and drawing fouls. As a hybrid, I think he has value and a successful history helping win games.
All that aside on a team blessed w aggressive guys like Zuby, Smith, Scott, it seems fair to wonder about KR’s defense, hustling for loose balls and being a bit cavalier at times. I never thought he was a PG. That may warrant some coaching creativity to maximize his role. We all want him to succeed and just value the ball more, stick to a mid range game, hustle and defend better.
All that aside on a team blessed w aggressive guys like Zuby, Smith, Scott, it seems fair to wonder about KR’s defense, hustling for loose balls and being a bit cavalier at times. I never thought he was a PG. That may warrant some coaching creativity to maximize his role. We all want him to succeed and just value the ball more, stick to a mid range game, hustle and defend better.
Bit of a conundrum with KR... its clear he has amazing vision and his ability to get to the hoop his top notch.... but i feel we will see smart defenders really sag off him... he is 0 threat beyond the foul line...
i love the ball in his hand in the half court... but think we will see defenses start to give him a ton of space...
i love the ball in his hand in the half court... but think we will see defenses start to give him a ton of space...
I think I'd go with option #2.
Kadary seems to get better as the game goes along. Almost like he needs to figure out what the other defense is trying to do, so not playing him may not do much good (especially with Smith's propensity to foul, due to his aggressive nature).
I wish he'd make the adjustment a little faster, but when he does, he seems to turn it on.
Personally, I can make peace with Kadary’s offensive limitations because I think the positives he brings on that side of the ball are extremely valuable. Like you said, great vision and passing ability. His midrange jumper has been dropping at a decent rate last handful of games. He has some shifty moves to get to the cup, though his finishing on the interior could be better.
I just want to see him give a sh*t on defense. He only seems to care about swiping for the ball and getting steals. And yea, steals are nice, but the way he plays defense it’s like he is replacing defensive effort with lazy steal attempts. I know how much Rick cares about defense and I do believe it’s starting to piss him off. Broadcast showed him picking on Kadary a few times last night
He has a very idiosyncratic approach to the game. There's a ton of old-man-game in him. If you are looking for dunks, threes and highlight-reel plays you are likely to be disappointed. But he is almost invariably productive ways that both do and don't show up in the stat sheet and will do his best (and usually succeed) to deliver in the spots you need him to deliver.
No argument that he's an acquired taste and in fairness his performance has been very up and down so far as SJU. But I think that it will be more up as he settles in and also when league play starts. I guess we'll see.
Mullins Revenge
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Kadary is a solid player for us. He has limitations but so does everyone on our team.
Is it disappointing that hes not an nba talent? Yes, I think we all thought we were getting that. Unfortunately, hes not close to that.
But he is a solid D1 basketball player and is a big piece for us if we want to have a successful season.
Is it disappointing that hes not an nba talent? Yes, I think we all thought we were getting that. Unfortunately, hes not close to that.
But he is a solid D1 basketball player and is a big piece for us if we want to have a successful season.