carmineabbatiello
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Was it written in stone on Mount Sinai that Kadary and Mormon can't start/play together? Let's get our best players out there together and see where the chips fall.
Kadary
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I know that Posh was the epitome of a warrior and you had to spend more time telling him to get off the floor than to get on it, so I understand how endearing that is. And I also understand how frustratingly annoying it is that Kadary is not that guy to get on the floor.
So I offer these stats just to show that Kadary, perhaps underperforming by a large margin, is still producing at a quality level.
Posh last year at sju
10.2 pts 3.9 rebs 4.2 asts 2 stls 2.9 TO
40% fg 23% 3fg
Kadary thru 10 games
10.4 pts 5.2 rebs 4.9 asts 1.4 stls 2.5 TO
46% fg 25% 3fg
If 10 5 5 with a block and a steal and a half were garbage, there would be a lot more garbage.
Fair, but return on NIL investment for Kadary to date is disappointing, but best to judge over a more substantial period of time I guess.
Is Shaka on the LMF “acquired taste” possibility list?
It's disappointing but far from what people are saying here. We would've gotten blown out against Baylor, lose to Georgia, and New Mexico/K-State would've been a much tougher game.
that video was tongue in cheek, as you can see in my post on previous page on this thread I clearly appreciate some of what Kadary brings to the team.
Admittedly, having a little fun messing with LMF and Marillac because they forced us Danissheads to defend him from a lot of crap last year. Now their guy is on the hot seat
MugCostanza
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We lost to Georgia because of Kadary. We win that game if he was sick that day
Quite the assumption IMO. Him playing poorly doesnt mean we would have had other guys step up in his absence.
I don't believe that at all. The entire team played like garbage.
He's on the "empty calories" list with Daniss Jenkins.Is Shaka on the LMF “acquired taste” possibility list?
We lost because the team shot 31% from the field and 10% from 3 point land. Georgia shot 49% and 41%. It was still only a one possession loss.
FWIW, these numbers may be arbitrary, but Kadary is the ONLY player in the country averaging:
4.5+ assists, 5+ rebounds, and at least 1 block & 1 steal
4.5+ assists, 5+ rebounds, and at least 1 block & 1 steal
Don't even think its a bold prediction but this thread will look silly in no time. Kadary does a lot of things no one else can do, especially late in games. I also think Pitino seeing that he shouldn't be a 35+ minutes per game guy, and instead hovering around 30/most of it without Smith, will enable Kadary to further unlock this team.
I would not say past time since conference play has not started yet. BUT, I would say we could conceivably be undefeated at this juncture had he played at the excepted level. Maybe expectations were not realistic, or maybe the fit is not quite right. BUT, there has been an obvious and material drop off from his past production. Aside from production though, more concerning is the seeming lack of intensity or urgency, and hard play. Maybe this is just his personality, and not knowing him, maybe this was to be expected. I don't know.
I also don't get why some are seeming to take it personally when the obvious is pointed out: he is not performing as expected. This is not a kid who we all have gotten warm and fuzzy about after 2 or 3 years on the team. He's basically a mercenary, playing semi-pro ball, who has come here for big NIL to do a job. He is probably a great kid, but we certainly as fans can and should hope and expect that he play with energy, pride and to his potential, as demonstrated by past performance. Critiquing his play to date does not equate to calling him out as a bad kid or teammate. It just states the obvious.
In any event, there's lots of season to be played and I hope he plays better than he has. If so, watch out. If not, we'll still have a good season, but won't reach our potential.
With respect this was posted less than 24 hours ago. And FWIW I think Al is a great poster. But I wouldn’t call it taking it personal as much as just defending one our own players.
“Richmond is slow, lazy, can't shoot past 10 feet, can't finish at the rim, is a turnover machine, and plays lousy defense. He throws more bad passes than good passes. Other than that he's an all-American candidate to some.”
MugCostanza
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Wouldn't have needed another guy to step up. Would have just needed them to be a net zero and not a huge negative.
That wasn't a game we lost by double digits. We were right in it at the end. If we replaced Kadary's 35 mins of 1-8 shooting, 2 Assists, 3 Turnovers with a replacement level player we win that game.
You can say the same about Deivon Smith who went 1-7, Wilcher who went 1-6, Dunlap 0-4, Scott 2-11 from 3pt.
The whole team looked totally gassed and out of it. Kadary was not an exception at all, the entire team looked it (except for Zuby).
We probably need more distance to properly assess that game, but I think the staff walked right into a trap. In the NBA, people call it a "scheduled loss" -- basically, a game that is likely a loss because of the schedule (usually back-to-back away games, three games in four days, etc.)
The most revealing thing to me is that Pitino really doesn't seem flustered by most of what this board is flustered by. "More than ready" offensively for Big East play? Pitino's pumped about his roster and squad.
I said on another post that I thought that was harsh, so I agree with that.