Jermaine Lawrence

Take Jakarr for example. He likely would have been better served spending this season terrorizing the rim, showcasing his quick hops on the offensive glass and ability to use his length and athleticism in transition. Make the jumper out to 15 feet (which he can) enough to get NBA teams thinking that with work they can extend him to 20 feet, at least enough that it is worth taking a shot on his length and athleticism.
By spending so much of this season - especially early - floating on the perimeter all he did was highlight how he's not ready to do that, and as a consequence he often looked less impressive than simply sticking to what he does well.
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well said. bottom line it is a team game. you play well within the team for the team and let that do the talking. these kids so worried about showcasing themselves instead of playing as a member of a team, are invariably destined for D-league. Some good examples of being a star who let the game come instead of showcasing themselves: Wiggins at Kansas and Criston at Xavier
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What about the coaches who allow them to do so?
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I don't want to pick on Jakarr. However he said as much himself so it is a good example. Not sure that you can fault Lavin on this as he appeared to attempt to reign in both Jakarr and Obekpa as well as DH last season. In the case of Jakarr, this is a kid with a Hollywood smile and when you hear him talk and you think that he is a good kid, with a good attitude that is well grounded. You don't think prima dona. He made bad choices and didn't listen or play within the game plan. He was ROY and definitely NBA potential. Lavin wanted to run the offense through Jakarr but we needed him on both ends of the floor not just prepping his 3pointer for the NBA. His best games where he looked most NBA ready was when he was playing hard nosed defense. But the fact that he only chose to do that a couple of times the entire season against big name players like McDermott was a big problem. I don't care how much money you make after college. It is a special time whether you are an athlete or not. When you don't appreciate it and are just looking at the future, you are missing out.
 
The simple fact is that many 25 or top 50 PFs might not even make the top 250 ranked purely as a SF. Hakim Warrick was 6'8 and skinny as can be, but the kid was picked in the first round without ever playing on the perimeter in college--he attempted just nine treys prior to his senior year. Jared Dudly was more of a wing than Lawrence or Sampson will ever be, but he made it to the NBA because of his tougness near the basket. Nobody wants a 6'9 kid launching threes and living on the perimeter. You already have two guards out there and a SF.
 
Sampson attempted 5 3-pointers all season.
He's not hakeem Warrick because he's not as good of a rebounder or defender. It's not that he didn't try to be.

I don't buy this bull that he was showcasing himself, all players showcase ! But he played very much within the system that Lavin had. He may have worked on his 3s and ball handling in practice, but he didn't try to act like a perimeter player once the games started. That's a myth.

What he did do is act like a black hole on offense. He doesn't have good court vision and doesn't pass out of double teams enough. But that's not the same as what he's being accused of.
 
Sampson attempted 5 3-pointers all season.
He's not hakeem Warrick because he's not as good of a rebounder or defender. It's not that he didn't try to be.

I don't buy this bull that he was showcasing himself, all players showcase ! But he played very much within the system that Lavin had. He may have worked on his 3s and ball handling in practice, but he didn't try to act like a perimeter player once the games started. That's a myth.

What he did do is act like a black hole on offense. He doesn't have good court vision and doesn't pass out of double teams enough. But that's not the same as what he's being accused of.
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you're right desco its not the same thing. Im just not sure whats worse though.
 
Sampson attempted 5 3-pointers all season.
He's not hakeem Warrick because he's not as good of a rebounder or defender. It's not that he didn't try to be.

I don't buy this bull that he was showcasing himself, all players showcase ! But he played very much within the system that Lavin had. He may have worked on his 3s and ball handling in practice, but he didn't try to act like a perimeter player once the games started. That's a myth.

What he did do is act like a black hole on offense. He doesn't have good court vision and doesn't pass out of double teams enough. But that's not the same as what he's being accused of.
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You are correct about the threes, but how many 17 footers did he launch compared to Warrick? Two guys with nearly identical size and talent and look how one utilized it. I loved Sampson facing up from the mid and low post...just like where Warrick did 90% of his damage. He was too quick and acrobatic to be guarded consistently. Did he go to that when we needed offense? No. He took deep two after deep two regardless of the situation, score, or shot clock. When your PF takes the same shot one of your guards could be taking, you lose a rebounder. When you factor in the lost rebounding and the higher rate of turnovers and offensive fouls from Sampson compared to D'Lo or Jordan, all of a sudden that 39% chance of falling looks even worse.

In fairness to Sampson, he would have been a lot better with a kid like Thomas on the court with him and Obekpa, but he needs to realize his role on a team. He should have been top 5 in the country in offensive rebounds.
 
Sampson attempted 5 3-pointers all season.
He's not hakeem Warrick because he's not as good of a rebounder or defender. It's not that he didn't try to be.

I don't buy this bull that he was showcasing himself, all players showcase ! But he played very much within the system that Lavin had. He may have worked on his 3s and ball handling in practice, but he didn't try to act like a perimeter player once the games started. That's a myth.

What he did do is act like a black hole on offense. He doesn't have good court vision and doesn't pass out of double teams enough. But that's not the same as what he's being accused of.
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You are correct about the threes, but how many 17 footers did he launch compared to Warrick? Two guys with nearly identical size and talent and look how one utilized it. I loved Sampson facing up from the mid and low post...just like where Warrick did 90% of his damage. He was too quick and acrobatic to be guarded consistently. Did he go to that when we needed offense? No. He took deep two after deep two regardless of the situation, score, or shot clock. When your PF takes the same shot one of your guards could be taking, you lose a rebounder. When you factor in the lost rebounding and the higher rate of turnovers and offensive fouls from Sampson compared to D'Lo or Jordan, all of a sudden that 39% chance of falling looks even worse.

In fairness to Sampson, he would have been a lot better with a kid like Thomas on the court with him and Obekpa, but he needs to realize his role on a team. He should have been top 5 in the country in offensive rebounds.
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You're right, he did take too many long 2s. And as we know that's the worst shot you can take in terms of percentage and reward. And as I said, he was a "selfish" player when he got his hands on the ball. It's not as if he was a facilitator. I just think all this talk of him working on his sf skills is just white noise. Things that him and his agent think nba gms want to hear. Not too much proof that he actually did it in games.

But I agree he took too many long 2s. But tell me, when have we run a set that has a post - up option?
In - and - out with Harrison behind the 3pt line?
That literally never happens in our offense. It's high pick n roll, and if that's not there. .. well, make something happen. I think jakarr, obekpa, and even Gift could've scored more in the post.
 
Actually, most people/organizations comply when law enforcement asks them not to take action which might compromise a criminal investigation.
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Explain to me how NOT playing 3 potential defendants in a basketball game that is completely unrelated to the accusation impedes their investigation?
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It might not have. Could be favorable treatment for the hometown basketball team. My point is simply that when the police make such a request, people usually comply. I personally don't agree with such a delay in taking action.
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I understand cooperation with law enforcement but I cannot believe this is true.
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Matt Prehm @Prehmmr247 · 14h
EPD tells @KEZI9 they didn't say UO couldn't suspend players or not play them in NCAA games. So...why did UO Prez not tell Altman?

Again I understand cooperating with law enforcement when they ask you to do something. My point is what purpose would it serve to have or not have them play in a basketball game and then why would the police want or not want that.
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My last point about this. See Eugene PD spokesperson quote on the idea that the Police would care whether they play in a game or not:

Eugene PD spokesperson Melinda McLaughlin told me on Wednesday that the department did ask the UO to delay its administrative review. However she also said, "Police are not going to be concerned about who participates in a sporting event."

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...o_its_a_cover-up_at_the.html#incart_most-read
 
@bkoch: #bearcats Mick Cronin confirmed today that Jermaine Lawrence has asked for and will be granted his release from UC. @ENQSports
 
@bkoch: #bearcats Mick Cronin confirmed today that Jermaine Lawrence has asked for and will be granted his release from UC. @ENQSports
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Maybe I'm off base, but I just can't see a Top 35 recruit going to Manhattan, where he'll play against the likes of Quinnipiac and Monmouth--as opposed to playing against the likes of Villanova and Georgetown. If he wants to be close to home, I think it's down to us and Seton Hall.
 
@bkoch: #bearcats Mick Cronin confirmed today that Jermaine Lawrence has asked for and will be granted his release from UC. @ENQSports
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Maybe I'm off base, but I just can't see a Top 35 recruit going to Manhattan, where he'll play against the likes of Quinnipiac and Monmouth--as opposed to playing against the likes of Villanova and Georgetown. If he wants to be close to home, I think it's down to us and Seton Hall.
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Are you guessing?

SHU is not in play for Jermaine.
 
@bkoch: #bearcats Mick Cronin confirmed today that Jermaine Lawrence has asked for and will be granted his release from UC. @ENQSports
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Maybe I'm off base, but I just can't see a Top 35 recruit going to Manhattan, where he'll play against the likes of Quinnipiac and Monmouth--as opposed to playing against the likes of Villanova and Georgetown. If he wants to be close to home, I think it's down to us and Seton Hall.
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Are you guessing?

SHU is not in play for Jermaine.
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SHU is just speculation on my behalf, but I can't imagine why wouldn't they go after him. Do you know for a fact that they are not in play?
 
This Cincinnati blog thinks that it's all about JL wanting to play SF, and Cronin and staff telling him he's a power forward.

"The nub of the issue would appear to be about the position that Lawrence was playing for the Bearcats. In his heart of hearts it seems that Lawrence views himself as a small forward, and wants to play as a small forward. The staff sees him as a power forward and wants him to develop in that direction. It would appear that Jermaine is convinced that he is the next Kevin Durant, and will do his best to go somewhere that will let him try to be the next KD. That's ultimately what this is about."


http://www.downthedrive.com/2014/5/9/5701628/a-different-take-on-the-jermaine-lawrence-transfer
 
This Cincinnati blog thinks that it's all about JL wanting to play SF, and Cronin and staff telling him he's a power forward.

"The nub of the issue would appear to be about the position that Lawrence was playing for the Bearcats. In his heart of hearts it seems that Lawrence views himself as a small forward, and wants to play as a small forward. The staff sees him as a power forward and wants him to develop in that direction. It would appear that Jermaine is convinced that he is the next Kevin Durant, and will do his best to go somewhere that will let him try to be the next KD. That's ultimately what this is about."


http://www.downthedrive.com/2014/5/9/5701628/a-different-take-on-the-jermaine-lawrence-transfer
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Yeah, posted that earlier in the thread and I think if true, it really works in our favor. Whether people think he should be a SF or not, we definitely have a hole there and thus can dangle the prospect of tons of minutes at that position and/or PF. If you think that Seton Hall is our main rival for him (which may or may not be the case) they have a top 50 PF in Delgado coming in for 2014 and two 3-star SF's Rodriguez and Sanogo.
 
This Cincinnati blog thinks that it's all about JL wanting to play SF, and Cronin and staff telling him he's a power forward.

"The nub of the issue would appear to be about the position that Lawrence was playing for the Bearcats. In his heart of hearts it seems that Lawrence views himself as a small forward, and wants to play as a small forward. The staff sees him as a power forward and wants him to develop in that direction. It would appear that Jermaine is convinced that he is the next Kevin Durant, and will do his best to go somewhere that will let him try to be the next KD. That's ultimately what this is about."


http://www.downthedrive.com/2014/5/9/5701628/a-different-take-on-the-jermaine-lawrence-transfer
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Yeah, posted that earlier in the thread and I think if true, it really works in our favor. Whether people think he should be a SF or not, we definitely have a hole there and thus can dangle the prospect of tons of minutes at that position and/or PF. If you think that Seton Hall is our main rival for him (which may or may not be the case) they have a top 50 PF in Delgado coming in for 2014 and two 3-star SF's Rodriguez and Sanogo.
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My fault Simmons, I didn't see it. I'll delete my post.
 
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