JaKarr Sampson

[MCNPA]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

[logen]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Actually not funny when the board is reduced to this type of nonsense. IMO, bobre has always been just barely this side of Bellevue but to instigate this type of banter is low even for him. Makes me wish I were still a mod.

 

[MCNPA]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Actually not funny when the board is reduced to this type of nonsense. IMO, bobre has always been just barely this side of Bellevue but to instigate this type of banter is low even for him. Makes me wish I were still a mod.

 

Agree.. I'm losing it lately reading this nonsense.

 

[LJSA]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Actually not funny when the board is reduced to this type of nonsense. IMO, bobre has always been just barely this side of Bellevue but to instigate this type of banter is low even for him. Makes me wish I were still a mod.

Wait until you see what he's up to on Johnny Jungle. It's his most bizarre post ever. 

 

[redmannorth]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Actually not funny when the board is reduced to this type of nonsense. IMO, bobre has always been just barely this side of Bellevue but to instigate this type of banter is low even for him. Makes me wish I were still a mod.

Wait until you see what he's up to on Johnny Jungle. It's his most bizarre post ever. 

 

Please do tell.

 

[fuchsia]

 I loved the use of inciteful for insightful in an earlier post. Who says Freud's slip was showing?

 

[bobre45]

Seems like I have a pretty big following for my alledged shortcomings Where does that place you in the food chain? If you don't agree with my opinions (and that's all they are) don't read them. Meanwhile we're 10-15 and some of you are throwing rose petals on the program as if there's nothing wrong. Talk about Bellevue........ 

 

[bobre45]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Whether You're a nurse or not I think your assertion that it's more convenient to have urinary emergencies while on a plane, in an airport, a rental car or in the home of some recruit as opposed to New York City ten minutes away from his doctors is totally ridiculous. You didn't say whether you were a doctor but if I got that advice from you I'd look for a second opinion. Sick people generally avoid travel, period.

 

[mullin20]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Actually not funny when the board is reduced to this type of nonsense. IMO, bobre has always been just barely this side of Bellevue but to instigate this type of banter is low even for him. Makes me wish I were still a mod.

Wait until you see what he's up to on Johnny Jungle. It's his most bizarre post ever. 

 

Please do tell.

 

He just hopes that Steve is receiving some counseling for his fragile psyche. perfectly normal stuff...

 

[mjmaherjr]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Actually not funny when the board is reduced to this type of nonsense. IMO, bobre has always been just barely this side of Bellevue but to instigate this type of banter is low even for him. Makes me wish I were still a mod.

Wait until you see what he's up to on Johnny Jungle. It's his most bizarre post ever. 

 

Please do tell.

 

He just hopes that Steve is receiving some counseling for his fragile psyche. perfectly normal stuff...

 

really ? link ?

 

[mullin20]

  Its in the "lavin hard on recruiting trail" thread over on JJ.

 

[MCNPA]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

Whether You're a nurse or not I think your assertion that it's more convenient to have urinary emergencies while on a plane, in an airport, a rental car or in the home of some recruit as opposed to New York City ten minutes away from his doctors is totally ridiculous. You didn't say whether you were a doctor but if I got that advice from you I'd look for a second opinion. Sick people generally avoid travel, period.

 

It's a lot more convenient to have a urinary emergency anywhere but national television, get it? Like I said Bobre, your assertions are entirely wrong. I've been doing this stuff for a long time. Just because you slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night doesn't mean your idea of "common sense" overrides expertise in these matters. Incidentally, Lavin's doctors are some of the best Urologists in the world and it seems they've given Lavs the same info and advice that runs contrary to your logic. Lavin isn't sick any more. He's really just rehabbing his post-op course.

 

[mjmaherjr]

  Its in the "lavin hard on recruiting trail" thread over on JJ.

 

Holy Shite i can't believe I skipped over that one. I'm almost speechless. Almost. To Bobre's credit he is the only person on the sites that I think was capable of that one.

 

[mjmaherjr]

  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$

 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..

 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...

 

Millions of people including me have bladder problems. If they have bathrooms on airliners I really believe there must be one at MSG and CA he could use. I get by ducking into Macdonalds on the ride to the games. Traveling is a lot toougher with incontinence than sitting a quick walk away from a private jahn. What common sense?

 

There are different kinds of incontinence Bobre. Let me dummy it down for you. The type of incontinence you get after prostate surgery is the type where you sneeze and dont even know you've emptied your bladder until you feel it trickling into your shoe. It requires wearing diapers or foley catheters with leg bags strapped on. Get it now??  I don't think you're stupid Bobre, just thick...

 

And let me dummy it down further for you. Lavin's problems are a given. The issue is what environment would be most condusive to his comfort and recovery. I'm comparing airplanes, airports, open road drives and recruit's homes to the warm confines of Madison square Garden. If you can really say that the drudgery of recruiting is easier than parking your ass on a cushion a few steps away from a bathroom God bless you but I thought you were a nurse or something?

 

No, not a nurse Bobre. I've run an ICU for the past 5 years at night. Prior to that I was supervisor for Department of Surgery for 9 years for several hospitals. I think I clearly have a grasp of this where you you do not. Hypothetically Lavin can't be bench coaching on TV when you don't have control of you bladder and there's not time to make it to a bathroom. You've given sufficient enough sample that you don't understand the likely problems, yet you refuse to concede. It's pretty funny actually. 

 

You didn't say whether you were a doctor but if I got that advice from you I'd look for a second opinion. Sick people generally avoid travel, period.

  MCN has already said what he does for a living and I don't want to divulge any personal info about where he works but lets just say it is a VERY well known hospital and I mean that in a good way

 

[johnsliva]

Bobred45 wrote:

You didn't say whether you were a doctor but if I got that advice from you I'd look for a second opinion. Sick people generally avoid travel, period.


BR you have said a lot of dumb things over the years but this is just ludicrous. I am unfortunately at the age where many of my friends and co workers have succumbed to prostate cancer. Many of them try to normalize their lives and get back to work in some capacity as soon as they can. It helps their mental outlook that this will not beat them. As we are consultants that travel around the country to work they travel. Are they 100 percent, no. Do they have to work their Chemo into the schedule you bet. Do they have to take days off, Yes. But to put a blanket statement that you can’t travel shows a complete lack of understanding of the healing process and the importance of getting back into the saddle, even if it is part time. The mental aspect of beating cancer is huge and getting back to normality is a big part of that process. PS MCN has forgotten more about medicine than most of us will ever know. 

 

[boo haarvey]

A question for all of the doctors on this Board. Can returning too early from prostate surgery cause or exacerbate incontinence? Remember, Lavin said that his premature return caused the "setback." Again, just seems strange that he felt that he had enough control of his bladder to coach in November, but now he no longer does. Doesn't add up. With no disrespect to the doctors on this site, unless you've seen Lavin's charts and are on his medical team, you're speculating every bit as much as me and Bobre.

 

[mjmaherjr]

With no disrespect to the doctors on this site, unless you've seen Lavin's charts and are on his medical team, you're speculating every bit as much as me and Bobre.

 

Not really because those in the medical field have most likely seen MANY more people who have gone through what Lavin has gone through. No case is ever the same but they can speak about it with much more experience and knowledge than those of us who aren't in that field.

Same goes for people who had prostate cancer previously. They know about it and can talk about it and the affects of it and the recovery far better than me or Bobre.

I mentioned this on the jungle way back in the beginning of the season another poster here who I know ( shout out to OLV72 ) told me personally his experiences with it and how he was surprised Lavin even tried to come back so early because of the physical affects it can have on you especially when you see the way Lavin works on the sidelines during games. ( Ironically I just introduced OLV72 and his friends Ralph and Mike to MCNPA weeks ago after a garden game )

I understand Bobre's thinking that home is the best remedy but I just don't think he can speak with authority on the subject

 

[Class of 72]

A question for all of the doctors on this Board. Can returning too early from prostate surgery cause or exacerbate incontinence? Remember, Lavin said that his premature return caused the "setback." Again, just seems strange that he felt that he had enough control of his bladder to coach in November, but now he no longer does. Doesn't add up. With no disrespect to the doctors on this site, unless you've seen Lavin's charts and are on his medical team, you're speculating every bit as much as me and Bobre.

 

With all due respect but what difference does it make to you Boo, Bobre or any other skeptic "supporter" of the program what type of setback coach suffered?
It has already been publicized that he had the most radical form of PC surgery that required manipulating his internal plumbing. It is known the doctors encountered structural problems in doing that manipulation. His PC surgery carried higher risks than some newer approaches but that was his choice given his young age.
Anyone I have known that had that type of procedure needed 3-4 months for recovery. This past week it was 4 months. What is it that strikes you or any other skeptic here as unusual? Had he had Brachytherapy like Jim Boeheim he could have been back in 6 weeks but when you are 46 instead of 58 you tend to want it out and know it is out. That was his choice.
At this stage of the season it makes little difference if he is on the bench. He is at practices, he visits recruits, he reassures them he will be back. What more should we demand of him?
As a final note on this thread, since it is about Jakarr, any reference to Lavin's recuperation should possibly have it's own thread somewhere else on the board and perhaps posters can be directed there at the risk of having their post deleted.

 

[Section3]

A question for all of the doctors on this Board. Can returning too early from prostate surgery cause or exacerbate incontinence? Remember, Lavin said that his premature return caused the "setback." Again, just seems strange that he felt that he had enough control of his bladder to coach in November, but now he no longer does. Doesn't add up. With no disrespect to the doctors on this site, unless you've seen Lavin's charts and are on his medical team, you're speculating every bit as much as me and Bobre.

 

With all due respect but what difference does it make to you Boo, Bobre or any other skeptic "supporter" of the program what type of setback coach suffered?
It has already been publicized that he had the most radical form of PC surgery that required manipulating his internal plumbing. It is known the doctors encountered structural problems in doing that manipulation. His PC surgery carried higher risks than some newer approaches but that was his choice given his young age.
Anyone I have known that had that type of procedure needed 3-4 months for recovery. This past week it was 4 months. What is it that strikes you or any other skeptic here as unusual? Had he had Brachytherapy like Jim Boeheim he could have been back in 6 weeks but when you are 46 instead of 58 you tend to want it out and know it is out. That was his choice.
At this stage of the season it makes little difference if he is on the bench. He is at practices, he visits recruits, he reassures them he will be back. What more should we demand of him?
As a final note on this thread, since it is about Jakarr, any reference to Lavin's recuperation should possibly have it's own thread somewhere else on the board and perhaps posters can be directed there at the risk of having their post deleted.

 

Amen!!!!!

This conversation is sad...It's his business and speculation on the reason why he is opting to recruit vs. coach is irrelevant...it is what it is...he could be sitting home doing nothing...

 

[MCNPA]

A question for all of the doctors on this Board. Can returning too early from prostate surgery cause or exacerbate incontinence? Remember, Lavin said that his premature return caused the "setback." Again, just seems strange that he felt that he had enough control of his bladder to coach in November, but now he no longer does. Doesn't add up. With no disrespect to the doctors on this site, unless you've seen Lavin's charts and are on his medical team, you're speculating every bit as much as me and Bobre.

 

Listen, this is the last ill speak of this because I don't know Lavin's current state nor what he's going through. Regardless, one has to have empathy and understand that this is not fun stuff. This is not something that Lavin wants to go through. I'm pretty sure he'd rather be drinking Angel's Envy and eating dry aged steaks after victories in the sidelines.

Just because Lavin said it caused a "setback" doesn't mean he's divulging his entire history nor problem, which he shouldn't and doesn't have to! After this type of surgery, the nerves to the bladder and surrounding musculature and pelvic floor can have issues for many months afterward in some cases. He tried to coach but couldn't. Leave it at that. He says he's cancer free and I believe that. He's got a fantastic doctor.

He says it's a stamina issue, but I don't expect he can nor should be explicit with the fools that want to question the validity of his claims. This is his medical history and something that is protected by not only law, but should have some boundaries for us as fans.

I only post some of these things to give greater understanding of some of the sequelae of prostate cancer surgery and likely issues that arise. I don't know that these are Lavin's issues, even I suspect that it might be the case. It should give a window into the real-life issues that cancer survivors go through and respect that. We shouldn't expect to hear the "whole truth" with respect to his medical issues. He's good enough to travel and recruit and that is great.

We have our own cancer survivor in crgreen. I'm sure he wouldnt want to divulge his entire medical history nor the explicit details of his likely multitude of symptoms. I hope he chimes in just to help people realize that this stuff isn't as simple and surgery and then return in a month or two. We all hope for Lavin's return. Thats not the question. I don't think we should question his motivation at this point though. He's on the recruiting trail and working hard.

I would think we should applaud him for that and realize that we're literally a few players away from a top 15 team. Not many teams can enter next season saying we have arguably two of the best players in the country at their respective position in Harkless and Harrison. I'll go further to say that Harkless might be the best small forward in the country next year. D'Lo a top 5-10 shooting guard. A few more pieces and we're there.

Respect Lavin's privacy and understand that most aren't in his shoes and should not expect to understand all his issues and why he's not on the court yet.  

P.S. this post makes me think about our friend crgreen and what he's going through. I hope everything is going well with you. There are a lot of good SJU fans that would love to meet you one day, even if you rooted for UCLA in the matchup. Hope you hang in there. Quality of life's the biggest issue. As long as you're still enjoying it, there's nothing else to question...