JaKarr Sampson

 I still wanna know where Providence is getting all these scholarships from.
 

They will pull a current player's ship. That's how.

I have expressed my feelings in the past about going after decommits. Jakarr is no different. Suffice it to say coaches like Boeheim and Calhoun would have written decommits off on day one.....as much as we dislike them, they get it.

I feel pretty confident Lavin will be bringing in 2 JC's with no academic issues, Winston Shephard has become priority #2 behind Obekpa and a surprise secret mystery recruit ---- just to get all the juices flowing here!

I take all the negative sky is falling fans with a grain of salt. Fans that are the enemies from within the family are the worst kind of fan. They tend to be ILL Bills, Chroniccomplainers, Upstate north of Nowhere,PhonyBaloneyMaloney and a host host of other sellouts. When the going gets tough, they are all congregate in the same bar called No Hope Saloon.
 

I think the worst kind of fan is an ignorant one or one, i.e., one who puts their head in the sand. I can't wait to hear you two months from now. "Trust in Lavin" Priority No. 1 is getting Joe Shmo from Po Dunk JC while priority No. 2 is getting . . ." There aren't many prime time recruits on the board. Btw -- it would not shock me if Branch left (he has not signed a LOI). We are in a world of hurt right now. Wake up and smell the coffee!
 

Boo,

Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit. ~ Elbert Hubbard
Thanks for the inside info on Branch! You and Bobre need to go out and celebrate when Moe is drafted # 15 in the first round of the NBA draft. That would be a great testament to Moe's rapid, almost meteoric, rise under the tutelage of your favorite coach.
 

72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook. He was this little pg who listened to the wrong people and left after his freshman year. I think he may have been drafted in the second round. Suffice it to say he didn't have much of an nba career. There was also a pg before cook by the name of Eric Barkley. He left after his soph year and did not have much of an nba career. I know in la la land where the program is on the upswing kids like mo harkless don't leave before theyre ready and guys like me are evil trolls who live to spread misinformation as part of a diabolical scheme to stunt the meteoric rise of the program that lavin has constructed. Indeed in fantasy land, moe has improved under the "tutelage" of lavin, notwithstanding the fact that lavin has only coached him for 4 games
 

Boo, if the real Boo Harvey were dead, he would be rolling in his grave after reading your comments! LOL!

I have no idea if you think all the players you referenced did the right or wrong this by declaring early. Cook for sure, Erick not, Moe should be compared to a player that played with Boo Harvey named Malik Sealy. Malik was one of the greatest players ever to wear the uniform. Both were 6'8, 200 lbs. I hope Moe looks at game film from those years and realizes he needs at least one, if not more, years to be as good.

It is also ironic you choose a name like Boo Harvey to criticize our young and short roster and moan the state of the program and the win-loss record of five freshmen, two of whom barley shave.
You see I do remember Boo fondly. A great redmen point guard who went undrafted by the NBA. I also remember him letting his team down by barley attending classes and having to be declared academically ineligible in 1988-89 when he should have led his team at the point guard dishing assists to his teammates that included Malik Sealy, Rob Werdann and Jayson Williams. We are talking about one of the most talented teams ever at St. John's but without Harvey they stumbled and bumbled to a 15-12 regular season record, lost in the first round of the BE tourney (15-13) but won the NIT.
I would have loved to hear your comments on that Boo-less team, it's losses, Boo's ineligibility, coach Looie's half-court game, etc., etc.
Boo, I forgot......more than you will ever know about our program.
 

72 -- I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about who knows more about the program. I certainly don't derive my self-worth based on that. I will point out, however, that in trying to impress me with your knowledge, you forgot the part about Harvey coming back the following year and hitting 5 buzzer beater shots with Werdann, Sealy Williams, etc. who were all a year older (unfortunately, I think Williams got hurt that year, but Singelton filled in well). All the while supporting his infant son. The NIT team that beat St. Louis in the final had three freshman starters -- they weren't going anywhere with our without Harvey. The team was far better the following two years.

Fwiw -- I have never criticized the current kids. It is you and your ilk who have criticized Stith, and Nuri. I challenge you to cite to a single post where I've criticized the kids. My only purpose in posting is too express my concern and frustration at the current state of the program.
 
 What are you talking about with Branch? He already transferred and is on the team.
 

If Boo, Bill, Baloney Malone and some others pulled any more misinformation out of their collective arses they should just start a thread and keep us updated on that one single thread. I recommend a title like Shitz Happens.
 


They might want to start with pulling their heads out of their arses first...makes it easier to put on the "red glasses" the rest of us are apparently wearing and see how well the program is setup going forward.
 

How well the program is set up going forward? This must be mrs. Lavin writing bc only somebody related to lavin could think the program is set up going forward. Six frickin scholarship players and one legit big man who has struggled mightily. Not to mention talk of our best player going to the nba. I think it's great to be optimistic but you guys are frickin ridiculous. And what misinformation have I spread? That jakar was a lock? Or Rico? Or the mystery shooter? Wasn't me.
 

Well said but unfortunately, telling it like it is draws a lot of enmity around here. Doesn't change the facts though. Last time we played real shorthanded post Jarvis the team fought every bit as hard as this years with a whole lot less talent. There weren't many games like the Cuse and cincy debacles and I'm just wondering where do we go from here. Have we seen the last of the good efforts? Have we seen the last of Lavin? I think it's critical for him to be seen even if he can't jump up and down. He's our drawing card - not Dunlap who has one tenth the charisma. The "doctors orders" thing just doesn't fly to me as long as Steve is allowed to fly, manage luggage, hotels, eating out etc. Just doesn't make sense to me when his presence could make such a difference. Does the anguish etc. he experiences in front of the TV really differ all that much from what it would be with the team? Sorry but I just can't see it. If I were out sick from the job and was found to be flying all over the country I'd be fired as soon as I got back. I had an employee call in sick from South Beach once. She became an ex-employee shortly thereafter. Bottom line is if you're sick stay home or it looks funny. I know there are fine lines here but I think the assistants should be doing the traveling in this instance. These are just my opinions and I'm sorry if they don't jive with some others but I am sticking with them until I see something credible to contradict them.
 

Bobre -- this is exactly what I've been saying. Just calling a spade a spade. Why the righteous indignation from the folks on this Board, acting as if we're heretics who have no right to question Lavin or voice our frustrations? I pay damn good money for my season tickets and I've avidly followed this program through the depths of near obscurity with probably too much energy and emotion. I'll be damned if I will let these posters question my loyalty.
 
If I were out sick from the job and was found to be flying all over the country I'd be fired as soon as I got back. I had an employee call in sick from South Beach once. She became an ex-employee shortly thereafter. Bottom line is if you're sick stay home or it looks funny. I know there are fine lines here but I think the assistants should be doing the traveling in this instance.

What if she was flying around the country still performing the duties of her job? Quite frankly, Lavin is still performing the duties of his job by "flying all over the country."

Besides, an assistant is also doing some traveling (Tony Chiles).  
 
It is easier to get to a bathroom on Jet Blue, at an airport, at a hotel or from the stands at a high school gym.

However it is quite difficult to do the same when you're on the bench at MSG with 60 minutes to go before you hit halftime and as many as 19,000 people looking at you (many in orange).

See the dilemma?
 
If I were out sick from the job and was found to be flying all over the country I'd be fired as soon as I got back. I had an employee call in sick from South Beach once. She became an ex-employee shortly thereafter. Bottom line is if you're sick stay home or it looks funny. I know there are fine lines here but I think the assistants should be doing the traveling in this instance.

What if she was flying around the country still performing the duties of her job? Quite frankly, Lavin is still performing the duties of his job by "flying all over the country."

Besides, an assistant is also doing some traveling (Tony Chiles).  
 

He'll find a way to twist it, so no point in being reasonable.

God I hope we hire Mark Jackson. His 9-14 career record has him on the fast track to coaching immortality.
 
If I were out sick from the job and was found to be flying all over the country I'd be fired as soon as I got back. I had an employee call in sick from South Beach once. She became an ex-employee shortly thereafter. Bottom line is if you're sick stay home or it looks funny. I know there are fine lines here but I think the assistants should be doing the traveling in this instance.

What if she was flying around the country still performing the duties of her job? Quite frankly, Lavin is still performing the duties of his job by "flying all over the country."

Besides, an assistant is also doing some traveling (Tony Chiles).  
 

Not only that, he doing it with his employer's blessing. Hardly the same set of circumstances.
 
 I still wanna know where Providence is getting all these scholarships from.
 

They will pull a current player's ship. That's how.

I have expressed my feelings in the past about going after decommits. Jakarr is no different. Suffice it to say coaches like Boeheim and Calhoun would have written decommits off on day one.....as much as we dislike them, they get it.

I feel pretty confident Lavin will be bringing in 2 JC's with no academic issues, Winston Shephard has become priority #2 behind Obekpa and a surprise secret mystery recruit ---- just to get all the juices flowing here!

I take all the negative sky is falling fans with a grain of salt. Fans that are the enemies from within the family are the worst kind of fan. They tend to be ILL Bills, Chroniccomplainers, Upstate north of Nowhere,PhonyBaloneyMaloney and a host host of other sellouts. When the going gets tough, they are all congregate in the same bar called No Hope Saloon.
 

I think the worst kind of fan is an ignorant one or one, i.e., one who puts their head in the sand. I can't wait to hear you two months from now. "Trust in Lavin" Priority No. 1 is getting Joe Shmo from Po Dunk JC while priority No. 2 is getting . . ." There aren't many prime time recruits on the board. Btw -- it would not shock me if Branch left (he has not signed a LOI). We are in a world of hurt right now. Wake up and smell the coffee!
 

Boo,

Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit. ~ Elbert Hubbard
Thanks for the inside info on Branch! You and Bobre need to go out and celebrate when Moe is drafted # 15 in the first round of the NBA draft. That would be a great testament to Moe's rapid, almost meteoric, rise under the tutelage of your favorite coach.
 

72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook. He was this little pg who listened to the wrong people and left after his freshman year. I think he may have been drafted in the second round. Suffice it to say he didn't have much of an nba career. There was also a pg before cook by the name of Eric Barkley. He left after his soph year and did not have much of an nba career. I know in la la land where the program is on the upswing kids like mo harkless don't leave before theyre ready and guys like me are evil trolls who live to spread misinformation as part of a diabolical scheme to stunt the meteoric rise of the program that lavin has constructed. Indeed in fantasy land, moe has improved under the "tutelage" of lavin, notwithstanding the fact that lavin has only coached him for 4 games
 

Boo, if the real Boo Harvey were dead, he would be rolling in his grave after reading your comments! LOL!

I have no idea if you think all the players you referenced did the right or wrong this by declaring early. Cook for sure, Erick not, Moe should be compared to a player that played with Boo Harvey named Malik Sealy. Malik was one of the greatest players ever to wear the uniform. Both were 6'8, 200 lbs. I hope Moe looks at game film from those years and realizes he needs at least one, if not more, years to be as good.

It is also ironic you choose a name like Boo Harvey to criticize our young and short roster and moan the state of the program and the win-loss record of five freshmen, two of whom barley shave.
You see I do remember Boo fondly. A great redmen point guard who went undrafted by the NBA. I also remember him letting his team down by barley attending classes and having to be declared academically ineligible in 1988-89 when he should have led his team at the point guard dishing assists to his teammates that included Malik Sealy, Rob Werdann and Jayson Williams. We are talking about one of the most talented teams ever at St. John's but without Harvey they stumbled and bumbled to a 15-12 regular season record, lost in the first round of the BE tourney (15-13) but won the NIT.
I would have loved to hear your comments on that Boo-less team, it's losses, Boo's ineligibility, coach Looie's half-court game, etc., etc.
Boo, I forgot......more than you will ever know about our program.
 

72 -- I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about who knows more about the program. I certainly don't derive my self-worth based on that. I will point out, however, that in trying to impress me with your knowledge, you forgot the part about Harvey coming back the following year and hitting 5 buzzer beater shots with Werdann, Sealy Williams, etc. who were all a year older (unfortunately, I think Williams got hurt that year, but Singelton filled in well). All the while supporting his infant son. The NIT team that beat St. Louis in the final had three freshman starters -- they weren't going anywhere with our without Harvey. The team was far better the following two years.

Fwiw -- I have never criticized the current kids. It is you and your ilk who have criticized Stith, and Nuri. I challenge you to cite to a single post where I've criticized the kids. My only purpose in posting is too express my concern and frustration at the current state of the program.
 

Boo, you seem to assume too much and get down on the staff and program on a regular basis. You say crazy stuff like "72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook?". LOL! You are misinformed about Branch and predict he will walk away......assuming Lavin lied to him or our losing record could be factors. Hey, there are a half dozen frustrated fans like yourself here that poop their pants after any recruit signs elsewhere or we lose a game.
You have no problem recollecting Boo Harvey yet fail to see the similar situations with some of the players that did not qualify or left the team. In 1989 your "ilk" may have blamed Looie and his staff for not staying on top of Harvey in class. You defend a sub-par Big East 13 losses with the "youth excuse" but cannot seem to grasp that no team in SJ history has been younger and thinner than the current squad.
Luckily, in 1989 one of those freshmen was the talented Jason Buchannan who had to fill in for Boo while he was "supporting his infant son".......btw, I don't think he worked a second job at the Sly Fox to meet those fatherly obligations. Nice of you to give him a pass for his senior year when that very talented freshman team, along with vets Billy Singleton and Matt Brust, could have won a few more games to make the NCAA had Boo hit the books.
By now you see why I brought up the 1989 team........four highly rated freshmen (3 of which went on to NBA careers); 3 vets in Harvey, Brust and Billy (who went on the play pro ball in Europe) and you see that things were not that great in 1989 after 7 straight NCAA appearances.
Hopefully, we win one or two more this year but we do not have a front line of Werdann (6'11), Williams (6'10), and Sealy (6'8") this year with a Jason Buchannan at the point who was a terrific scorer and a Mad Matt Brust who played every game as it it were his last. We have two frosh that will start next year. The other positions are up for grabs. Hopefully Lav lands those missing pieces so your sky stops falling. 
 
Bobre that was the worst analogy you could have ever came up with. You think he is out on a joy ride?? Playing craps when out in Vegas?? Or that he wouldn't rather be on the bench than be recovering from a fight for his life??? I think redmen.com should start instuting an IQ test before you are able to signup. I am all for freedom of speech but cmon now... 
 
Bobre that was the worst analogy you could have ever came up with. You think he is out on a joy ride?? Playing craps when out in Vegas?? Or that he wouldn't rather be on the bench than be recovering from a fight for his life??? I think redmen.com should start instuting an IQ test before you are able to signup. I am all for \freedom of speech but cmon now... [/quote\

LOL
 
Bobre that was the worst analogy you could have ever came up with. You think he is out on a joy ride?? Playing craps when out in Vegas?? Or that he wouldn't rather be on the bench than be recovering from a fight for his life??? I think redmen.com should start instuting an IQ test before you are able to signup. I am all for freedom of speech but cmon now... 
 

As you've probably noticed, he doesn't let things go.

I fear this will be his go-to talking point for the next month and a half.
 
  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$
 
The thread is about Jakarr.

Keep it that way. 
 

My sources tell me Jakarr hates Bobre. :lol:
 

However, Jakarr finds it very difficult to consummate this hatred as Bobre is only forced in to lower orbit by random space junk on rare occasions. :silly:
 
 I still wanna know where Providence is getting all these scholarships from.
 

They will pull a current player's ship. That's how.

I have expressed my feelings in the past about going after decommits. Jakarr is no different. Suffice it to say coaches like Boeheim and Calhoun would have written decommits off on day one.....as much as we dislike them, they get it.

I feel pretty confident Lavin will be bringing in 2 JC's with no academic issues, Winston Shephard has become priority #2 behind Obekpa and a surprise secret mystery recruit ---- just to get all the juices flowing here!

I take all the negative sky is falling fans with a grain of salt. Fans that are the enemies from within the family are the worst kind of fan. They tend to be ILL Bills, Chroniccomplainers, Upstate north of Nowhere,PhonyBaloneyMaloney and a host host of other sellouts. When the going gets tough, they are all congregate in the same bar called No Hope Saloon.
 

I think the worst kind of fan is an ignorant one or one, i.e., one who puts their head in the sand. I can't wait to hear you two months from now. "Trust in Lavin" Priority No. 1 is getting Joe Shmo from Po Dunk JC while priority No. 2 is getting . . ." There aren't many prime time recruits on the board. Btw -- it would not shock me if Branch left (he has not signed a LOI). We are in a world of hurt right now. Wake up and smell the coffee!
 

Boo,

Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit. ~ Elbert Hubbard
Thanks for the inside info on Branch! You and Bobre need to go out and celebrate when Moe is drafted # 15 in the first round of the NBA draft. That would be a great testament to Moe's rapid, almost meteoric, rise under the tutelage of your favorite coach.
 

72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook. He was this little pg who listened to the wrong people and left after his freshman year. I think he may have been drafted in the second round. Suffice it to say he didn't have much of an nba career. There was also a pg before cook by the name of Eric Barkley. He left after his soph year and did not have much of an nba career. I know in la la land where the program is on the upswing kids like mo harkless don't leave before theyre ready and guys like me are evil trolls who live to spread misinformation as part of a diabolical scheme to stunt the meteoric rise of the program that lavin has constructed. Indeed in fantasy land, moe has improved under the "tutelage" of lavin, notwithstanding the fact that lavin has only coached him for 4 games
 

Boo, if the real Boo Harvey were dead, he would be rolling in his grave after reading your comments! LOL!

I have no idea if you think all the players you referenced did the right or wrong this by declaring early. Cook for sure, Erick not, Moe should be compared to a player that played with Boo Harvey named Malik Sealy. Malik was one of the greatest players ever to wear the uniform. Both were 6'8, 200 lbs. I hope Moe looks at game film from those years and realizes he needs at least one, if not more, years to be as good.

It is also ironic you choose a name like Boo Harvey to criticize our young and short roster and moan the state of the program and the win-loss record of five freshmen, two of whom barley shave.
You see I do remember Boo fondly. A great redmen point guard who went undrafted by the NBA. I also remember him letting his team down by barley attending classes and having to be declared academically ineligible in 1988-89 when he should have led his team at the point guard dishing assists to his teammates that included Malik Sealy, Rob Werdann and Jayson Williams. We are talking about one of the most talented teams ever at St. John's but without Harvey they stumbled and bumbled to a 15-12 regular season record, lost in the first round of the BE tourney (15-13) but won the NIT.
I would have loved to hear your comments on that Boo-less team, it's losses, Boo's ineligibility, coach Looie's half-court game, etc., etc.
Boo, I forgot......more than you will ever know about our program.
 

72 -- I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about who knows more about the program. I certainly don't derive my self-worth based on that. I will point out, however, that in trying to impress me with your knowledge, you forgot the part about Harvey coming back the following year and hitting 5 buzzer beater shots with Werdann, Sealy Williams, etc. who were all a year older (unfortunately, I think Williams got hurt that year, but Singelton filled in well). All the while supporting his infant son. The NIT team that beat St. Louis in the final had three freshman starters -- they weren't going anywhere with our without Harvey. The team was far better the following two years.

Fwiw -- I have never criticized the current kids. It is you and your ilk who have criticized Stith, and Nuri. I challenge you to cite to a single post where I've criticized the kids. My only purpose in posting is too express my concern and frustration at the current state of the program.
 

Boo, you seem to assume too much and get down on the staff and program on a regular basis. You say crazy stuff like "72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook?". LOL! You are misinformed about Branch and predict he will walk away......assuming Lavin lied to him or our losing record could be factors. Hey, there are a half dozen frustrated fans like yourself here that poop their pants after any recruit signs elsewhere or we lose a game.
You have no problem recollecting Boo Harvey yet fail to see the similar situations with some of the players that did not qualify or left the team. In 1989 your "ilk" may have blamed Looie and his staff for not staying on top of Harvey in class. You defend a sub-par Big East 13 losses with the "youth excuse" but cannot seem to grasp that no team in SJ history has been younger and thinner than the current squad.
Luckily, in 1989 one of those freshmen was the talented Jason Buchannan who had to fill in for Boo while he was "supporting his infant son".......btw, I don't think he worked a second job at the Sly Fox to meet those fatherly obligations. Nice of you to give him a pass for his senior year when that very talented freshman team, along with vets Billy Singleton and Matt Brust, could have won a few more games to make the NCAA had Boo hit the books.
By now you see why I brought up the 1989 team........four highly rated freshmen (3 of which went on to NBA careers); 3 vets in Harvey, Brust and Billy (who went on the play pro ball in Europe) and you see that things were not that great in 1989 after 7 straight NCAA appearances.
Hopefully, we win one or two more this year but we do not have a front line of Werdann (6'11), Williams (6'10), and Sealy (6'8") this year with a Jason Buchannan at the point who was a terrific scorer and a Mad
Matt Brust who played every game as it it were his last. We have two frosh that will start next year. The other positions are up for grabs. Hopefully Lav lands those missing pieces so your sky stops falling. 
 

Did you look up boo Harvey on Wikipedia before you wrote the post? Earlier, you were making fun of my user name as if you had never heard of him. Not sure which 3 highly rated freshman in 89 went on to have nba careers. I love werdann, but I would hardly call a cup of tea a career. Maybe buchannon the "great scorer" had a great nba career. A little advice -- check the website you're reading before posting. And are you seriously calling out a player for supporting his kid? Who are you dude? Finally, I don't see any analogy btwn the 89 team that won the nit with, as you point out, a 6'8, 6,10 and 6'11 frontline. There wasn't a loui team in my lifetime that failed to make the postseason. 72, if I were posting back then, I would have been critical at times. I am not one to deify the coach. But I will tell you this, if lavin can steer us to the success that loui showed us -- I would be thrilled.
 
 I still wanna know where Providence is getting all these scholarships from.
 

They will pull a current player's ship. That's how.

I have expressed my feelings in the past about going after decommits. Jakarr is no different. Suffice it to say coaches like Boeheim and Calhoun would have written decommits off on day one.....as much as we dislike them, they get it.

I feel pretty confident Lavin will be bringing in 2 JC's with no academic issues, Winston Shephard has become priority #2 behind Obekpa and a surprise secret mystery recruit ---- just to get all the juices flowing here!

I take all the negative sky is falling fans with a grain of salt. Fans that are the enemies from within the family are the worst kind of fan. They tend to be ILL Bills, Chroniccomplainers, Upstate north of Nowhere,PhonyBaloneyMaloney and a host host of other sellouts. When the going gets tough, they are all congregate in the same bar called No Hope Saloon.
 

I think the worst kind of fan is an ignorant one or one, i.e., one who puts their head in the sand. I can't wait to hear you two months from now. "Trust in Lavin" Priority No. 1 is getting Joe Shmo from Po Dunk JC while priority No. 2 is getting . . ." There aren't many prime time recruits on the board. Btw -- it would not shock me if Branch left (he has not signed a LOI). We are in a world of hurt right now. Wake up and smell the coffee!
 

Boo,

Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit. ~ Elbert Hubbard
Thanks for the inside info on Branch! You and Bobre need to go out and celebrate when Moe is drafted # 15 in the first round of the NBA draft. That would be a great testament to Moe's rapid, almost meteoric, rise under the tutelage of your favorite coach.
 

72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook. He was this little pg who listened to the wrong people and left after his freshman year. I think he may have been drafted in the second round. Suffice it to say he didn't have much of an nba career. There was also a pg before cook by the name of Eric Barkley. He left after his soph year and did not have much of an nba career. I know in la la land where the program is on the upswing kids like mo harkless don't leave before theyre ready and guys like me are evil trolls who live to spread misinformation as part of a diabolical scheme to stunt the meteoric rise of the program that lavin has constructed. Indeed in fantasy land, moe has improved under the "tutelage" of lavin, notwithstanding the fact that lavin has only coached him for 4 games
 

Boo, if the real Boo Harvey were dead, he would be rolling in his grave after reading your comments! LOL!

I have no idea if you think all the players you referenced did the right or wrong this by declaring early. Cook for sure, Erick not, Moe should be compared to a player that played with Boo Harvey named Malik Sealy. Malik was one of the greatest players ever to wear the uniform. Both were 6'8, 200 lbs. I hope Moe looks at game film from those years and realizes he needs at least one, if not more, years to be as good.

It is also ironic you choose a name like Boo Harvey to criticize our young and short roster and moan the state of the program and the win-loss record of five freshmen, two of whom barley shave.
You see I do remember Boo fondly. A great redmen point guard who went undrafted by the NBA. I also remember him letting his team down by barley attending classes and having to be declared academically ineligible in 1988-89 when he should have led his team at the point guard dishing assists to his teammates that included Malik Sealy, Rob Werdann and Jayson Williams. We are talking about one of the most talented teams ever at St. John's but without Harvey they stumbled and bumbled to a 15-12 regular season record, lost in the first round of the BE tourney (15-13) but won the NIT.
I would have loved to hear your comments on that Boo-less team, it's losses, Boo's ineligibility, coach Looie's half-court game, etc., etc.
Boo, I forgot......more than you will ever know about our program.
 

72 -- I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about who knows more about the program. I certainly don't derive my self-worth based on that. I will point out, however, that in trying to impress me with your knowledge, you forgot the part about Harvey coming back the following year and hitting 5 buzzer beater shots with Werdann, Sealy Williams, etc. who were all a year older (unfortunately, I think Williams got hurt that year, but Singelton filled in well). All the while supporting his infant son. The NIT team that beat St. Louis in the final had three freshman starters -- they weren't going anywhere with our without Harvey. The team was far better the following two years.

Fwiw -- I have never criticized the current kids. It is you and your ilk who have criticized Stith, and Nuri. I challenge you to cite to a single post where I've criticized the kids. My only purpose in posting is too express my concern and frustration at the current state of the program.
 

Boo, you seem to assume too much and get down on the staff and program on a regular basis. You say crazy stuff like "72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook?". LOL! You are misinformed about Branch and predict he will walk away......assuming Lavin lied to him or our losing record could be factors. Hey, there are a half dozen frustrated fans like yourself here that poop their pants after any recruit signs elsewhere or we lose a game.
You have no problem recollecting Boo Harvey yet fail to see the similar situations with some of the players that did not qualify or left the team. In 1989 your "ilk" may have blamed Looie and his staff for not staying on top of Harvey in class. You defend a sub-par Big East 13 losses with the "youth excuse" but cannot seem to grasp that no team in SJ history has been younger and thinner than the current squad.
Luckily, in 1989 one of those freshmen was the talented Jason Buchannan who had to fill in for Boo while he was "supporting his infant son".......btw, I don't think he worked a second job at the Sly Fox to meet those fatherly obligations. Nice of you to give him a pass for his senior year when that very talented freshman team, along with vets Billy Singleton and Matt Brust, could have won a few more games to make the NCAA had Boo hit the books.
By now you see why I brought up the 1989 team........four highly rated freshmen (3 of which went on to NBA careers); 3 vets in Harvey, Brust and Billy (who went on the play pro ball in Europe) and you see that things were not that great in 1989 after 7 straight NCAA appearances.
Hopefully, we win one or two more this year but we do not have a front line of Werdann (6'11), Williams (6'10), and Sealy (6'8") this year with a Jason Buchannan at the point who was a terrific scorer and a Mad
Matt Brust who played every game as it it were his last. We have two frosh that will start next year. The other positions are up for grabs. Hopefully Lav lands those missing pieces so your sky stops falling. 
 

Did you look up boo Harvey on Wikipedia before you wrote the post? Earlier, you were making fun of my user name as if you had never heard of him. Not sure which 3 highly rated freshman in 89 went on to have nba careers. I love werdann, but I would hardly call a cup of tea a career. Maybe buchannon the "great scorer" had a great nba career. A little advice -- check the website you're reading before posting. And are you seriously calling out a player for supporting his kid? Who are you dude? Finally, I don't see any analogy btwn the 89 team that won the nit with, as you point out, a 6'8, 6,10 and 6'11 frontline. There wasn't a loui team in my lifetime that failed to make the postseason. 72, if I were posting back then, I would have been critical at times. I am not one to deify the coach. But I will tell you this, if lavin can steer us to the success that loui showed us -- I would be thrilled.
 

Than why not just support him in what he is trying to do instead of hammering lavin and the program?? Like I've said before, I wouldn't care if you guys bitch and moan come May 15th and we have 6 scolly players, but why complain now over something that you know nothing about?? To me it's trolling just to rile people up instead of acting like a patient mature adult
 
  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$
 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..
 
 I still wanna know where Providence is getting all these scholarships from.
 

They will pull a current player's ship. That's how.

I have expressed my feelings in the past about going after decommits. Jakarr is no different. Suffice it to say coaches like Boeheim and Calhoun would have written decommits off on day one.....as much as we dislike them, they get it.

I feel pretty confident Lavin will be bringing in 2 JC's with no academic issues, Winston Shephard has become priority #2 behind Obekpa and a surprise secret mystery recruit ---- just to get all the juices flowing here!

I take all the negative sky is falling fans with a grain of salt. Fans that are the enemies from within the family are the worst kind of fan. They tend to be ILL Bills, Chroniccomplainers, Upstate north of Nowhere,PhonyBaloneyMaloney and a host host of other sellouts. When the going gets tough, they are all congregate in the same bar called No Hope Saloon.
 

I think the worst kind of fan is an ignorant one or one, i.e., one who puts their head in the sand. I can't wait to hear you two months from now. "Trust in Lavin" Priority No. 1 is getting Joe Shmo from Po Dunk JC while priority No. 2 is getting . . ." There aren't many prime time recruits on the board. Btw -- it would not shock me if Branch left (he has not signed a LOI). We are in a world of hurt right now. Wake up and smell the coffee!
 

Boo,

Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit. ~ Elbert Hubbard
Thanks for the inside info on Branch! You and Bobre need to go out and celebrate when Moe is drafted # 15 in the first round of the NBA draft. That would be a great testament to Moe's rapid, almost meteoric, rise under the tutelage of your favorite coach.
 

72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook. He was this little pg who listened to the wrong people and left after his freshman year. I think he may have been drafted in the second round. Suffice it to say he didn't have much of an nba career. There was also a pg before cook by the name of Eric Barkley. He left after his soph year and did not have much of an nba career. I know in la la land where the program is on the upswing kids like mo harkless don't leave before theyre ready and guys like me are evil trolls who live to spread misinformation as part of a diabolical scheme to stunt the meteoric rise of the program that lavin has constructed. Indeed in fantasy land, moe has improved under the "tutelage" of lavin, notwithstanding the fact that lavin has only coached him for 4 games
 

Boo, if the real Boo Harvey were dead, he would be rolling in his grave after reading your comments! LOL!

I have no idea if you think all the players you referenced did the right or wrong this by declaring early. Cook for sure, Erick not, Moe should be compared to a player that played with Boo Harvey named Malik Sealy. Malik was one of the greatest players ever to wear the uniform. Both were 6'8, 200 lbs. I hope Moe looks at game film from those years and realizes he needs at least one, if not more, years to be as good.

It is also ironic you choose a name like Boo Harvey to criticize our young and short roster and moan the state of the program and the win-loss record of five freshmen, two of whom barley shave.
You see I do remember Boo fondly. A great redmen point guard who went undrafted by the NBA. I also remember him letting his team down by barley attending classes and having to be declared academically ineligible in 1988-89 when he should have led his team at the point guard dishing assists to his teammates that included Malik Sealy, Rob Werdann and Jayson Williams. We are talking about one of the most talented teams ever at St. John's but without Harvey they stumbled and bumbled to a 15-12 regular season record, lost in the first round of the BE tourney (15-13) but won the NIT.
I would have loved to hear your comments on that Boo-less team, it's losses, Boo's ineligibility, coach Looie's half-court game, etc., etc.
Boo, I forgot......more than you will ever know about our program.
 

72 -- I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about who knows more about the program. I certainly don't derive my self-worth based on that. I will point out, however, that in trying to impress me with your knowledge, you forgot the part about Harvey coming back the following year and hitting 5 buzzer beater shots with Werdann, Sealy Williams, etc. who were all a year older (unfortunately, I think Williams got hurt that year, but Singelton filled in well). All the while supporting his infant son. The NIT team that beat St. Louis in the final had three freshman starters -- they weren't going anywhere with our without Harvey. The team was far better the following two years.

Fwiw -- I have never criticized the current kids. It is you and your ilk who have criticized Stith, and Nuri. I challenge you to cite to a single post where I've criticized the kids. My only purpose in posting is too express my concern and frustration at the current state of the program.
 

Boo, you seem to assume too much and get down on the staff and program on a regular basis. You say crazy stuff like "72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook?". LOL! You are misinformed about Branch and predict he will walk away......assuming Lavin lied to him or our losing record could be factors. Hey, there are a half dozen frustrated fans like yourself here that poop their pants after any recruit signs elsewhere or we lose a game.
You have no problem recollecting Boo Harvey yet fail to see the similar situations with some of the players that did not qualify or left the team. In 1989 your "ilk" may have blamed Looie and his staff for not staying on top of Harvey in class. You defend a sub-par Big East 13 losses with the "youth excuse" but cannot seem to grasp that no team in SJ history has been younger and thinner than the current squad.
Luckily, in 1989 one of those freshmen was the talented Jason Buchannan who had to fill in for Boo while he was "supporting his infant son".......btw, I don't think he worked a second job at the Sly Fox to meet those fatherly obligations. Nice of you to give him a pass for his senior year when that very talented freshman team, along with vets Billy Singleton and Matt Brust, could have won a few more games to make the NCAA had Boo hit the books.
By now you see why I brought up the 1989 team........four highly rated freshmen (3 of which went on to NBA careers); 3 vets in Harvey, Brust and Billy (who went on the play pro ball in Europe) and you see that things were not that great in 1989 after 7 straight NCAA appearances.
Hopefully, we win one or two more this year but we do not have a front line of Werdann (6'11), Williams (6'10), and Sealy (6'8") this year with a Jason Buchannan at the point who was a terrific scorer and a Mad
Matt Brust who played every game as it it were his last. We have two frosh that will start next year. The other positions are up for grabs. Hopefully Lav lands those missing pieces so your sky stops falling. 
 

Did you look up boo Harvey on Wikipedia before you wrote the post? Earlier, you were making fun of my user name as if you had never heard of him. Not sure which 3 highly rated freshman in 89 went on to have nba careers. I love werdann, but I would hardly call a cup of tea a career. Maybe buchannon the "great scorer" had a great nba career. A little advice -- check the website you're reading before posting. And are you seriously calling out a player for supporting his kid? Who are you dude? Finally, I don't see any analogy btwn the 89 team that won the nit with, as you point out, a 6'8, 6,10 and 6'11 frontline. There wasn't a loui team in my lifetime that failed to make the postseason. 72, if I were posting back then, I would have been critical at times. I am not one to deify the coach. But I will tell you this, if lavin can steer us to the success that loui showed us -- I would be thrilled.
 

This will be my last response to you on this "Jakarr Sampson" thread regarding Boo Harvey.
1. You have selective memory regarding Boo Harvey and the 89 team.
2. Malik, Jayson and Rob all went on to play in the NBA. In the NBA today----only Rob remains active---as an assistant coach.
3. Harvey was not ruled academically ineligible because his offspring needed a change of diapers.
4. I did not say "BOO WHO" genius ----I said "BOO HOO" as in crybaby, someone who bitches constantly, Boo as a sarcastic reference to your using a former players' name who, by coincidence, was a scholar on the level of Norvel Pelle and Jakar Sampson (see, at least I referenced Jakar in this thread Boo HOO).
 
 I still wanna know where Providence is getting all these scholarships from.
 

They will pull a current player's ship. That's how.

I have expressed my feelings in the past about going after decommits. Jakarr is no different. Suffice it to say coaches like Boeheim and Calhoun would have written decommits off on day one.....as much as we dislike them, they get it.

I feel pretty confident Lavin will be bringing in 2 JC's with no academic issues, Winston Shephard has become priority #2 behind Obekpa and a surprise secret mystery recruit ---- just to get all the juices flowing here!

I take all the negative sky is falling fans with a grain of salt. Fans that are the enemies from within the family are the worst kind of fan. They tend to be ILL Bills, Chroniccomplainers, Upstate north of Nowhere,PhonyBaloneyMaloney and a host host of other sellouts. When the going gets tough, they are all congregate in the same bar called No Hope Saloon.
 

I think the worst kind of fan is an ignorant one or one, i.e., one who puts their head in the sand. I can't wait to hear you two months from now. "Trust in Lavin" Priority No. 1 is getting Joe Shmo from Po Dunk JC while priority No. 2 is getting . . ." There aren't many prime time recruits on the board. Btw -- it would not shock me if Branch left (he has not signed a LOI). We are in a world of hurt right now. Wake up and smell the coffee!
 

Boo,

Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit. ~ Elbert Hubbard
Thanks for the inside info on Branch! You and Bobre need to go out and celebrate when Moe is drafted # 15 in the first round of the NBA draft. That would be a great testament to Moe's rapid, almost meteoric, rise under the tutelage of your favorite coach.
 

72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook. He was this little pg who listened to the wrong people and left after his freshman year. I think he may have been drafted in the second round. Suffice it to say he didn't have much of an nba career. There was also a pg before cook by the name of Eric Barkley. He left after his soph year and did not have much of an nba career. I know in la la land where the program is on the upswing kids like mo harkless don't leave before theyre ready and guys like me are evil trolls who live to spread misinformation as part of a diabolical scheme to stunt the meteoric rise of the program that lavin has constructed. Indeed in fantasy land, moe has improved under the "tutelage" of lavin, notwithstanding the fact that lavin has only coached him for 4 games
 

Boo, if the real Boo Harvey were dead, he would be rolling in his grave after reading your comments! LOL!

I have no idea if you think all the players you referenced did the right or wrong this by declaring early. Cook for sure, Erick not, Moe should be compared to a player that played with Boo Harvey named Malik Sealy. Malik was one of the greatest players ever to wear the uniform. Both were 6'8, 200 lbs. I hope Moe looks at game film from those years and realizes he needs at least one, if not more, years to be as good.

It is also ironic you choose a name like Boo Harvey to criticize our young and short roster and moan the state of the program and the win-loss record of five freshmen, two of whom barley shave.
You see I do remember Boo fondly. A great redmen point guard who went undrafted by the NBA. I also remember him letting his team down by barley attending classes and having to be declared academically ineligible in 1988-89 when he should have led his team at the point guard dishing assists to his teammates that included Malik Sealy, Rob Werdann and Jayson Williams. We are talking about one of the most talented teams ever at St. John's but without Harvey they stumbled and bumbled to a 15-12 regular season record, lost in the first round of the BE tourney (15-13) but won the NIT.
I would have loved to hear your comments on that Boo-less team, it's losses, Boo's ineligibility, coach Looie's half-court game, etc., etc.
Boo, I forgot......more than you will ever know about our program.
 

72 -- I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about who knows more about the program. I certainly don't derive my self-worth based on that. I will point out, however, that in trying to impress me with your knowledge, you forgot the part about Harvey coming back the following year and hitting 5 buzzer beater shots with Werdann, Sealy Williams, etc. who were all a year older (unfortunately, I think Williams got hurt that year, but Singelton filled in well). All the while supporting his infant son. The NIT team that beat St. Louis in the final had three freshman starters -- they weren't going anywhere with our without Harvey. The team was far better the following two years.

Fwiw -- I have never criticized the current kids. It is you and your ilk who have criticized Stith, and Nuri. I challenge you to cite to a single post where I've criticized the kids. My only purpose in posting is too express my concern and frustration at the current state of the program.
 

Boo, you seem to assume too much and get down on the staff and program on a regular basis. You say crazy stuff like "72, I know you're not familiar with boo Harvey, but how about Omar cook?". LOL! You are misinformed about Branch and predict he will walk away......assuming Lavin lied to him or our losing record could be factors. Hey, there are a half dozen frustrated fans like yourself here that poop their pants after any recruit signs elsewhere or we lose a game.
You have no problem recollecting Boo Harvey yet fail to see the similar situations with some of the players that did not qualify or left the team. In 1989 your "ilk" may have blamed Looie and his staff for not staying on top of Harvey in class. You defend a sub-par Big East 13 losses with the "youth excuse" but cannot seem to grasp that no team in SJ history has been younger and thinner than the current squad.
Luckily, in 1989 one of those freshmen was the talented Jason Buchannan who had to fill in for Boo while he was "supporting his infant son".......btw, I don't think he worked a second job at the Sly Fox to meet those fatherly obligations. Nice of you to give him a pass for his senior year when that very talented freshman team, along with vets Billy Singleton and Matt Brust, could have won a few more games to make the NCAA had Boo hit the books.
By now you see why I brought up the 1989 team........four highly rated freshmen (3 of which went on to NBA careers); 3 vets in Harvey, Brust and Billy (who went on the play pro ball in Europe) and you see that things were not that great in 1989 after 7 straight NCAA appearances.
Hopefully, we win one or two more this year but we do not have a front line of Werdann (6'11), Williams (6'10), and Sealy (6'8") this year with a Jason Buchannan at the point who was a terrific scorer and a Mad
Matt Brust who played every game as it it were his last. We have two frosh that will start next year. The other positions are up for grabs. Hopefully Lav lands those missing pieces so your sky stops falling. 
 

Did you look up boo Harvey on Wikipedia before you wrote the post? Earlier, you were making fun of my user name as if you had never heard of him. Not sure which 3 highly rated freshman in 89 went on to have nba careers. I love werdann, but I would hardly call a cup of tea a career. Maybe buchannon the "great scorer" had a great nba career. A little advice -- check the website you're reading before posting. And are you seriously calling out a player for supporting his kid? Who are you dude? Finally, I don't see any analogy btwn the 89 team that won the nit with, as you point out, a 6'8, 6,10 and 6'11 frontline. There wasn't a loui team in my lifetime that failed to make the postseason. 72, if I were posting back then, I would have been critical at times. I am not one to deify the coach. But I will tell you this, if lavin can steer us to the success that loui showed us -- I would be thrilled.
 

Than why not just support him in what he is trying to do instead of hammering lavin and the program?? Like I've said before, I wouldn't care if you guys bitch and moan come May 15th and we have 6 scolly players, but why complain now over something that you know nothing about?? To me it's trolling just to rile people up instead of acting like a patient mature adult
 

Hey SURPRISE! we have six scholly players RIGHT NOW! Why wait till May 15th???? You're a year late! If the founding fathers had the unquestioning attitudes I see here this would still be an English colony.
 
  Bobre never ceases to amaze with his breathtaking ability to twist and turn everything to fit his narrow train of thought.

Yeah, its totally the same. Lavin off recruiting while he's sick and a big haired secretary doing jello shots in South Beach on a "sick day".. :$
 

And my narrow train of thought makes me wonder if Steve would be better by now if he had been in bed at home where he belongs. In decades of following college hoops I've never seen a sick coach off recruiting whille the assistants ran the show. Coach K took a year off but I don't recall him flying around the country kissing babies. In my crazy world the healthy guys do the traveling and the coach closes the deals after the legwork is done. But that's just common sense which doesn't fly on this board in general. I focus on facts like the six man roster, the record etc. No twisting necessary..
 

Bobre, common sense only works if you have a clue, which you don't. Lavin is not home fighting off cancer. He's cancer free. His issue is likely a more of one that is more publicly sensitive and doesn't lend itself to game coaching just yet, but is fine to be out on the recruiting trail with. Being home in bed has nothing to do with this. Like I said, without getting into deep specifics, my best guess is that he has some bladder issues that take time to improve after surgery and national TV and the sidelines is not a place to be rehabbing your bladder. There's a dose of common sense for you...
 
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